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BRIGGS
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6/9/2008  6:52 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TrueBlue:
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Posted by BRIGGS:
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Malik Rose Mardy Collins and a 2012 lottery protected 1 for Jarret Jack Joel Pryzbila and pick 13

Cool, another low ball offer. That pretty much proves you're more interested in screwing the other team in trade proposals than making reasonable offers.

Why would you want the 13th pick anyway? The only pick that matters is the 6th. Anything worse than that just won't do, especially a pick that close to 16, which you think is the most useless pick in the entire draft. I'm sure your answer will be that the draft is 13 players deep. How convenient.

My bet is 90% of fans would agree with me that they want to take pick 6 in this very nice draft and since Ive said it like 10 times you already know I said the draft was roughly 13 deep. Imagine trading Zach Randolph and lets say OJ Mayo to Philadelphia and we end up with no cap space in 2010 reggie evans and robin lopez chief.

Mock it out. Let's see that big drop off at 13.

Mayo isn't getting to the 6th pick. And if it makes you feel better we can make that trade when we're on the clock and know exactly who's available. If we get rid of Randolph's albatross contract, why wouldn't they have cap space in 2010?


Because he's looking at everything remaining the same afterwards, with exception to possibly extending Lee and Nate for pennies. I like the notion we should wait until Zach's deal is closer and unload along with other contracts that we don't want but if want to unload Zach now then all other transactions come to a screeching halt.

Did you catch in the other thread the fact he included Javale Mcgee in must have of players to choose from but Mcgee is mocked on most drafts pick 16 and below.

Briggs=Exposed!

Briggs is also big on Alexander but in the NBA.com consensus mocks, he goes 14th.

This is why I want him to mock the first 20 picks. He's so sure that by the 16th pick it will be impossible to get a good player but some of the players that he would look at with the 6th pick are expected to go much later. People want to make a big deal out of dropping 10 spots but the fact is that you're still looking at players within the same talent tier.

MY Top 15 players in order
Derrick Rose
Michael Beasley
OJ Mayo
Javale Mcgee
Anthony Randolph
Jerryd Bayless
Russell Westbrook
Joe Alexander
Eric Gordon
Brook Lopez
Kevin Love
CDR
Kosta Kofous
Danilo Gallinari
DJ Augustine

The players I realy like stop at Gordon at 9 and that is why I love 6. I dont feel we can go wrong in almost any scenario. Pick 13 would be a Gallinari Love Mcgee Westbrook type pick in the top order I had which obviously would start with Mcgee. After that you have value players like Forbes Giddens Calathes Rush that you could grab high 2s.

Literally you could get OJ Mayo at 6 and Javale Mcgee at 13

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:01 PM]

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:03 PM]

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:45 PM]
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6/9/2008  7:01 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Malik Rose Mardy Collins and a 2012 lottery protected 1 for Jarret Jack Joel Pryzbila and pick 13

Cool, another low ball offer. That pretty much proves you're more interested in screwing the other team in trade proposals than making reasonable offers.

Why would you want the 13th pick anyway? The only pick that matters is the 6th. Anything worse than that just won't do, especially a pick that close to 16, which you think is the most useless pick in the entire draft. I'm sure your answer will be that the draft is 13 players deep. How convenient.

What does trading 6 for 16 have to do with adding pick 13 to pick 6? I know this response of yours is sarcastic and stems from the other thread, but even you have to to know 6 & 13 is much better than 16.
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6/9/2008  7:15 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Malik Rose Mardy Collins and a 2012 lottery protected 1 for Jarret Jack Joel Pryzbila and pick 13

Cool, another low ball offer. That pretty much proves you're more interested in screwing the other team in trade proposals than making reasonable offers.

Why would you want the 13th pick anyway? The only pick that matters is the 6th. Anything worse than that just won't do, especially a pick that close to 16, which you think is the most useless pick in the entire draft. I'm sure your answer will be that the draft is 13 players deep. How convenient.

My bet is 90% of fans would agree with me that they want to take pick 6 in this very nice draft and since Ive said it like 10 times you already know I said the draft was roughly 13 deep. Imagine trading Zach Randolph and lets say OJ Mayo to Philadelphia and we end up with no cap space in 2010 reggie evans and robin lopez chief.

Mock it out. Let's see that big drop off at 13.

Mayo isn't getting to the 6th pick. And if it makes you feel better we can make that trade when we're on the clock and know exactly who's available. If we get rid of Randolph's albatross contract, why wouldn't they have cap space in 2010?


Because he's looking at everything remaining the same afterwards, with exception to possibly extending Lee and Nate for pennies. I like the notion we should wait until Zach's deal is closer and unload along with other contracts that we don't want but if want to unload Zach now then all other transactions come to a screeching halt.

Did you catch in the other thread the fact he included Javale Mcgee in must have of players to choose from but Mcgee is mocked on most drafts pick 16 and below.

Briggs=Exposed!

Briggs is also big on Alexander but in the NBA.com consensus mocks, he goes 14th.

This is why I want him to mock the first 20 picks. He's so sure that by the 16th pick it will be impossible to get a good player but some of the players that he would look at with the 6th pick are expected to go much later. People want to make a big deal out of dropping 10 spots but the fact is that you're still looking at players within the same talent tier.

MY Top 15 players in order
Derrick Rose
Michael Beasley
OJ Mayo
Javale Mcgee
Anthony Randolph
Jerryd Bayless
Russell Westbrook
Joe Alexander
Eric Gordon
Brook Lopez
Kevin Love
CDR
Kosta Kofous
Danilo Gallinari
Roy Hibbert

The players I realy like stop at Gordon at 9 and that is why I love 6. I dont feel we can go wrong in almost any scenario. Pick 13 would be a Gallinari Love Mcgee Westbrook type pick in the top order I had which obviously would start with Mcgee. After that you have value players like Forbes Giddens Calathes Rush that you could grab high 2s.

Literally you could get OJ Mayo at 6 and Javale Mcgee at 13

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:01 PM]

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:03 PM]

Cute. I said 20 so we can all see at least 5 players that don't make your cut.

And as I said earlier, you can wait until you're on the clock to make this pick. If Mayo is available then fine, take him.
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6/9/2008  7:21 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Malik Rose Mardy Collins and a 2012 lottery protected 1 for Jarret Jack Joel Pryzbila and pick 13

Cool, another low ball offer. That pretty much proves you're more interested in screwing the other team in trade proposals than making reasonable offers.

Why would you want the 13th pick anyway? The only pick that matters is the 6th. Anything worse than that just won't do, especially a pick that close to 16, which you think is the most useless pick in the entire draft. I'm sure your answer will be that the draft is 13 players deep. How convenient.

My bet is 90% of fans would agree with me that they want to take pick 6 in this very nice draft and since Ive said it like 10 times you already know I said the draft was roughly 13 deep. Imagine trading Zach Randolph and lets say OJ Mayo to Philadelphia and we end up with no cap space in 2010 reggie evans and robin lopez chief.

Mock it out. Let's see that big drop off at 13.

Mayo isn't getting to the 6th pick. And if it makes you feel better we can make that trade when we're on the clock and know exactly who's available. If we get rid of Randolph's albatross contract, why wouldn't they have cap space in 2010?


Because he's looking at everything remaining the same afterwards, with exception to possibly extending Lee and Nate for pennies. I like the notion we should wait until Zach's deal is closer and unload along with other contracts that we don't want but if want to unload Zach now then all other transactions come to a screeching halt.

Did you catch in the other thread the fact he included Javale Mcgee in must have of players to choose from but Mcgee is mocked on most drafts pick 16 and below.

Briggs=Exposed!

Briggs is also big on Alexander but in the NBA.com consensus mocks, he goes 14th.

This is why I want him to mock the first 20 picks. He's so sure that by the 16th pick it will be impossible to get a good player but some of the players that he would look at with the 6th pick are expected to go much later. People want to make a big deal out of dropping 10 spots but the fact is that you're still looking at players within the same talent tier.

MY Top 15 players in order
Derrick Rose
Michael Beasley
OJ Mayo
Javale Mcgee
Anthony Randolph
Jerryd Bayless
Russell Westbrook
Joe Alexander
Eric Gordon
Brook Lopez
Kevin Love
CDR
Kosta Kofous
Danilo Gallinari
Roy Hibbert

The players I realy like stop at Gordon at 9 and that is why I love 6. I dont feel we can go wrong in almost any scenario. Pick 13 would be a Gallinari Love Mcgee Westbrook type pick in the top order I had which obviously would start with Mcgee. After that you have value players like Forbes Giddens Calathes Rush that you could grab high 2s.

Literally you could get OJ Mayo at 6 and Javale Mcgee at 13

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:01 PM]

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:03 PM]

Cute. I said 20 so we can all see at least 5 players that don't make your cut.

And as I said earlier, you can wait until you're on the clock to make this pick. If Mayo is available then fine, take him.

Why do I want to go to 20? I said I think the draft is roughly 13 deep in the second tier. At 6 we are going to gte a really good player. Obviously you cant count on acquiring another pick but if I did it would be used on someone who I believe I could get at 13 who I had ranked higher. This is what Danny Ainge did with Rondo if anyone followed the real story--he liked Telfair and he calculated that Rondo would drop to 21 although he had him ranked top 10.

Also you want to get rid of curry randolph and lee--who are you replacing them with? I want to hear that answer:)
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6/9/2008  7:28 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Malik Rose Mardy Collins and a 2012 lottery protected 1 for Jarret Jack Joel Pryzbila and pick 13

Cool, another low ball offer. That pretty much proves you're more interested in screwing the other team in trade proposals than making reasonable offers.

Why would you want the 13th pick anyway? The only pick that matters is the 6th. Anything worse than that just won't do, especially a pick that close to 16, which you think is the most useless pick in the entire draft. I'm sure your answer will be that the draft is 13 players deep. How convenient.

My bet is 90% of fans would agree with me that they want to take pick 6 in this very nice draft and since Ive said it like 10 times you already know I said the draft was roughly 13 deep. Imagine trading Zach Randolph and lets say OJ Mayo to Philadelphia and we end up with no cap space in 2010 reggie evans and robin lopez chief.

Mock it out. Let's see that big drop off at 13.

Mayo isn't getting to the 6th pick. And if it makes you feel better we can make that trade when we're on the clock and know exactly who's available. If we get rid of Randolph's albatross contract, why wouldn't they have cap space in 2010?


Because he's looking at everything remaining the same afterwards, with exception to possibly extending Lee and Nate for pennies. I like the notion we should wait until Zach's deal is closer and unload along with other contracts that we don't want but if want to unload Zach now then all other transactions come to a screeching halt.

Did you catch in the other thread the fact he included Javale Mcgee in must have of players to choose from but Mcgee is mocked on most drafts pick 16 and below.

Briggs=Exposed!

Briggs is also big on Alexander but in the NBA.com consensus mocks, he goes 14th.

This is why I want him to mock the first 20 picks. He's so sure that by the 16th pick it will be impossible to get a good player but some of the players that he would look at with the 6th pick are expected to go much later. People want to make a big deal out of dropping 10 spots but the fact is that you're still looking at players within the same talent tier.

MY Top 15 players in order
Derrick Rose
Michael Beasley
OJ Mayo
Javale Mcgee
Anthony Randolph
Jerryd Bayless
Russell Westbrook
Joe Alexander
Eric Gordon
Brook Lopez
Kevin Love
CDR
Kosta Kofous
Danilo Gallinari
Roy Hibbert

The players I realy like stop at Gordon at 9 and that is why I love 6. I dont feel we can go wrong in almost any scenario. Pick 13 would be a Gallinari Love Mcgee Westbrook type pick in the top order I had which obviously would start with Mcgee. After that you have value players like Forbes Giddens Calathes Rush that you could grab high 2s.

Literally you could get OJ Mayo at 6 and Javale Mcgee at 13

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:01 PM]

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:03 PM]

Cute. I said 20 so we can all see at least 5 players that don't make your cut.

And as I said earlier, you can wait until you're on the clock to make this pick. If Mayo is available then fine, take him.

Why do I want to go to 20? I said I think the draft is roughly 13 deep in the second tier. At 6 we are going to gte a really good player. Obviously you cant count on acquiring another pick but if I did it would be used on someone who I believe I could get at 13 who I had ranked higher. This is what Danny Ainge did with Rondo if anyone followed the real story--he liked Telfair and he calculated that Rondo would drop to 21 although he had him ranked top 10.

Also you want to get rid of curry randolph and lee--who are you replacing them with? I want to hear that answer:)

You're such a fraud. I know what you said and just because you say it doesn't mean that it's true. You say that this draft isn't deep enough to find someone at 16. Conveniently for you, you stopped at 15 when listing the top players. I want to see at least 5 players that don't make your list, 5 players who could be available at the 16th pick. Of course the draft won't fall with your top 15 going in the top 15, so at a minimum you'd have one player in your top 15 fall to the 16th pick. If not someone in your top 9.
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6/9/2008  7:34 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Obviously you cant count on acquiring another pick but if I did it would be used on someone who I believe I could get at 13 who I had ranked higher. This is what Danny Ainge did with Rondo if anyone followed the real story--he liked Telfair and he calculated that Rondo would drop to 21 although he had him ranked top 10.

Wait a minute, you mean to say that good players can drop all the way past pick 16 all the way to 21? So the starting PG for a championship contender can be taken with the 21st pick but if we dropped 10 spots to 16, it would preclude us from drafting a good player who can help us? Unbelievable.
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6/9/2008  7:40 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BRIGGS:
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Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Malik Rose Mardy Collins and a 2012 lottery protected 1 for Jarret Jack Joel Pryzbila and pick 13

Cool, another low ball offer. That pretty much proves you're more interested in screwing the other team in trade proposals than making reasonable offers.

Why would you want the 13th pick anyway? The only pick that matters is the 6th. Anything worse than that just won't do, especially a pick that close to 16, which you think is the most useless pick in the entire draft. I'm sure your answer will be that the draft is 13 players deep. How convenient.

My bet is 90% of fans would agree with me that they want to take pick 6 in this very nice draft and since Ive said it like 10 times you already know I said the draft was roughly 13 deep. Imagine trading Zach Randolph and lets say OJ Mayo to Philadelphia and we end up with no cap space in 2010 reggie evans and robin lopez chief.

Mock it out. Let's see that big drop off at 13.

Mayo isn't getting to the 6th pick. And if it makes you feel better we can make that trade when we're on the clock and know exactly who's available. If we get rid of Randolph's albatross contract, why wouldn't they have cap space in 2010?


Because he's looking at everything remaining the same afterwards, with exception to possibly extending Lee and Nate for pennies. I like the notion we should wait until Zach's deal is closer and unload along with other contracts that we don't want but if want to unload Zach now then all other transactions come to a screeching halt.

Did you catch in the other thread the fact he included Javale Mcgee in must have of players to choose from but Mcgee is mocked on most drafts pick 16 and below.

Briggs=Exposed!

Briggs is also big on Alexander but in the NBA.com consensus mocks, he goes 14th.

This is why I want him to mock the first 20 picks. He's so sure that by the 16th pick it will be impossible to get a good player but some of the players that he would look at with the 6th pick are expected to go much later. People want to make a big deal out of dropping 10 spots but the fact is that you're still looking at players within the same talent tier.

MY Top 15 players in order
Derrick Rose
Michael Beasley
OJ Mayo
Javale Mcgee
Anthony Randolph
Jerryd Bayless
Russell Westbrook
Joe Alexander
Eric Gordon
Brook Lopez
Kevin Love
CDR
Kosta Kofous
Danilo Gallinari
Roy Hibbert

The players I realy like stop at Gordon at 9 and that is why I love 6. I dont feel we can go wrong in almost any scenario. Pick 13 would be a Gallinari Love Mcgee Westbrook type pick in the top order I had which obviously would start with Mcgee. After that you have value players like Forbes Giddens Calathes Rush that you could grab high 2s.

Literally you could get OJ Mayo at 6 and Javale Mcgee at 13

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:01 PM]

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:03 PM]

Cute. I said 20 so we can all see at least 5 players that don't make your cut.

And as I said earlier, you can wait until you're on the clock to make this pick. If Mayo is available then fine, take him.

Why do I want to go to 20? I said I think the draft is roughly 13 deep in the second tier. At 6 we are going to gte a really good player. Obviously you cant count on acquiring another pick but if I did it would be used on someone who I believe I could get at 13 who I had ranked higher. This is what Danny Ainge did with Rondo if anyone followed the real story--he liked Telfair and he calculated that Rondo would drop to 21 although he had him ranked top 10.

Also you want to get rid of curry randolph and lee--who are you replacing them with? I want to hear that answer:)

You're such a fraud. I know what you said and just because you say it doesn't mean that it's true. You say that this draft isn't deep enough to find someone at 16. Conveniently for you, you stopped at 15 when listing the top players. I want to see at least 5 players that don't make your list, 5 players who could be available at the 16th pick. Of course the draft won't fall with your top 15 going in the top 15, so at a minimum you'd have one player in your top 15 fall to the 16th pick. If not someone in your top 9.

I don't think you get it--I love pick 6--that is the only answer that I can give you. There is no way i would trade pick 6 to get rid of zach randolph for pick 16 none nada it's absolutely foolish--and I bet 90% of knick fans would agree with me. You have nearly 9k posts of which 8k include isiah scks---now he's gone and you need a new source!
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6/9/2008  7:44 PM
Hey isles can you use my top 15 and give me your 16th pick that you would use on the Knicks

Here you go

Derrick Rose
Michael Beasley
OJ Mayo
Javale Mcgee
Anthony Randolph
Jerryd Bayless
Russell Westbrook
Joe Alexander
Eric Gordon
Brook Lopez
Kevin Love
CDR
Kosta Kofous
Danilo Gallinari
DJ Augustine
pick 16

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:47 PM]

10 bucks he wont answer

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:56 PM]
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6/9/2008  8:14 PM
Posted by Uptown:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Malik Rose Mardy Collins and a 2012 lottery protected 1 for Jarret Jack Joel Pryzbila and pick 13

Cool, another low ball offer. That pretty much proves you're more interested in screwing the other team in trade proposals than making reasonable offers.

Why would you want the 13th pick anyway? The only pick that matters is the 6th. Anything worse than that just won't do, especially a pick that close to 16, which you think is the most useless pick in the entire draft. I'm sure your answer will be that the draft is 13 players deep. How convenient.

What does trading 6 for 16 have to do with adding pick 13 to pick 6? I know this response of yours is sarcastic and stems from the other thread, but even you have to to know 6 & 13 is much better than 16.


Who advocated not trying to get other picks from the draft? There were comments from the other thread there isn't much talent after pick 10. If true don't we have better talent on our team then there's no need to make a trade outside of pick 10. There's no way we're offering the crap Briggs suggested and getting the 13th pick. I love how he said start low to get the discussion going which means we'd eventually have to give up something worthwhile to get pick 13, which means there's a strong opinion there's talent in the 10-20 range.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-09-2008 7:22 PM]
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6/9/2008  8:20 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Hey isles can you use my top 15 and give me your 16th pick that you would use on the Knicks

Here you go

Derrick Rose
Michael Beasley
OJ Mayo
Javale Mcgee
Anthony Randolph
Jerryd Bayless
Russell Westbrook
Joe Alexander
Eric Gordon
Brook Lopez
Kevin Love
CDR
Kosta Kofous
Danilo Gallinari
DJ Augustine
pick 16

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:47 PM]

10 bucks he wont answer

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:56 PM]

I'll give you 5 players that will be just as good if not better than 5 of the players on your list.

Brandon Rush
Jordan
Greene
Speights
Arthur


Here's 2 more going outside the box

Billy Walker
Lawson
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6/9/2008  8:25 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Hey isles can you use my top 15 and give me your 16th pick that you would use on the Knicks

Here you go

Derrick Rose
Michael Beasley
OJ Mayo
Javale Mcgee
Anthony Randolph
Jerryd Bayless
Russell Westbrook
Joe Alexander
Eric Gordon
Brook Lopez
Kevin Love
CDR
Kosta Kofous
Danilo Gallinari
DJ Augustine
pick 16

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:47 PM]

10 bucks he wont answer

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:56 PM]

I'll give you 5 players that will be just as good if not better than 5 of the players on your list.

Brandon Rush
Jordan
Greene
Speights
Arthur


Here's 2 more going outside the box

Billy Walker
Lawson


I knew islesfan wouldnt answer because he has no clue what he is even talking about but you did not answer the question either--who is your pick 16 --not 10 players 1
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6/9/2008  8:44 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Hey isles can you use my top 15 and give me your 16th pick that you would use on the Knicks

Here you go

Derrick Rose
Michael Beasley
OJ Mayo
Javale Mcgee
Anthony Randolph
Jerryd Bayless
Russell Westbrook
Joe Alexander
Eric Gordon
Brook Lopez
Kevin Love
CDR
Kosta Kofous
Danilo Gallinari
DJ Augustine
pick 16

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:47 PM]

10 bucks he wont answer

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:56 PM]

I'll give you 5 players that will be just as good if not better than 5 of the players on your list.

Brandon Rush
Jordan
Greene
Speights
Arthur


Here's 2 more going outside the box

Billy Walker
Lawson


I knew islesfan wouldnt answer because he has no clue what he is even talking about but you did not answer the question either--who is your pick 16 --not 10 players 1

I'm not going to pick 16 going from your list because your list more than likely is going to be HORRIFICALLY INACURRATE so I'm going to pick who I feel will be on the board come June 26th at 16. Going by the compilations of Mock Drafts my pick is CDR. Now tell me who at 6 will definitely without a shadow of a doubt have a better pro career than CDR.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-09-2008 7:48 PM]
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6/9/2008  9:03 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Hey isles can you use my top 15 and give me your 16th pick that you would use on the Knicks

Here you go

Derrick Rose
Michael Beasley
OJ Mayo
Javale Mcgee
Anthony Randolph
Jerryd Bayless
Russell Westbrook
Joe Alexander
Eric Gordon
Brook Lopez
Kevin Love
CDR
Kosta Kofous
Danilo Gallinari
DJ Augustine
pick 16

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:47 PM]

10 bucks he wont answer

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:56 PM]

I'll give you 5 players that will be just as good if not better than 5 of the players on your list.

Brandon Rush
Jordan
Greene
Speights
Arthur


Here's 2 more going outside the box

Billy Walker
Lawson


I knew islesfan wouldnt answer because he has no clue what he is even talking about but you did not answer the question either--who is your pick 16 --not 10 players 1

I'm not going to pick 16 going from your list because your list more than likely is going to be HORRIFICALLY INACURRATE so I'm going to pick who I feel will be on the board come June 26th at 16. Going by the compilations of Mock Drafts my pick is CDR. Now tell me who at 6 will definitely without a shadow of a doubt have a better pro career than CDR.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-09-2008 7:48 PM]

wait a second--CDR can be picked before 16==that is the whole gig at 6 I KNOW essentially what players are there--at 16 I dont have a frikin clue--so very much like trading zach for a non-guaranteed FA pick 16 may not turn out the way I might like it to. At pick 6 you are in a very nice position to draft a player you REALLY like --you had to use an excuse for pick 16 bottom line
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6/9/2008  9:04 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Briggs, I've proposed the following package a bunch of times on here.

David Lee for pick 13+Sergio Rodriquez.

Now we're talking here. Like nyk4ever I've posted the same trade proposal many times myself. I would love the 13th pick & I really really like Sergio Rodriguez - I think he could really develop into something special. Briggs you were talking the other day about looking into acquiring a guy who, as it stands right now, might not be the best fit with their current team (you brought up Patrick O'Bryant for example). I agree and for me Sergio Rodriguez is at the top of a small list of guys that fits this mold:

1 - Sergio Rodriguez - appeared to have fallen out of favor with Portland mgmt. on several occassions last season, particularly with Nate McMillan, but he's got everything you can possibly want in a young PG you're looking to develop on a rebuilding team - youth (turns 22-years-old in 3 days), above average PG size (6'3"), solid quickness, great handle, looks to push the pace, capable scorer (can shoot & drive), but best of all he's very creative & always looking pass-first above all else. The kid had 10 assists in only 8 minutes last year in a game... Teammates would love this kid and I betcha D'Antoni would too if he doesn't already.

2 - Morris Almond - doesn't really seem to fit in the scheme of things out there in Utah (they're committed to Ronnie Brewer at the 2, Sloan likes CJ Miles, they've got Kirilenko and Harpring on the wing along with Kyle Korver now in the mix as an extra shooter). Maybe not the quickest guy around but the kid's a young, big, strong, silky smooth scorer who hits 3s, gets to the line and makes his FTs. Capable rebounder at the 2 who's big enough to swing over and play some 3. Lit up the D-League this past season, including at least 2 50 pt. games.

3 - Hilton Armstrong - Big, young shotblocker that suprisingly got little PT during the season and even less in the playoffs. I know Chandler and West are the two important guys up front for N.O. but did the kid even see any PT in that last series against the Spurs?!?! With regular rotation PT he can definitely help any club - weakside blocks, rebounds, and I think he's actually got some decent untapped offensive ability he could develop if encouraged to do so. Briggs help me out here - you're a U-Conn guy - tell me how pretty those jumper mechanics look - we're talking range out to about 20 feet....

There's a few more guys I like to a lesser extent that fit the bill (Francisco Garcia, Arron Afflalo) but these are my top guys I'd look to acquire provided their current teams are looking to swing a reasonable/sensible deal.

Also, Briggs you mentioned keeping your eyes open in the D-League and summer league for that John Starks/Anthony Mason role player type that we could add on the cheap that could eventually have an impact. I agree again and here are few guys I've talked about before (not sure where some are now off the top of my head):

Justin Williams - active rebounder/shot-blocker. If New Orleans wants too much for Armstrong grab this guy instead
Louis Amundson - if we ever lost Lee and we're looking to replace his hustle this kid's capable
Alexander Johnson - ditto Amundson
Chris Rodgers - reserve PG with size, can handle the ball, and play some fierce defense from what I remember
Von Wafer - got some length as a 2 and can score the ball
Rickey Paulding - a little bit of a smaller 2, good athlete though
Guillermo Diaz - athletic shooter/slasher, offensive-minded but could develop a decent floor game, he's reminds me of Nate Robinson with some more size - my sister-in-law works for the University of Miami and got me tickets for a game a while back - when I saw him in person I was impressed
Kevin Pittsnogle - big boy who can shoot the ball from deep and rebound a little bit

---------------------

Back to David Lee for pick 13 & Sergio Rodriguez. I'd do it in a heartbeat if I'm Walsh. Even if I had to sweeten it up a little to get it done (Balkman, Nate, cash, future draft choice, etc...) I would. Portland would like Lee - Pritchard just said recently that he's looking to add 'quality players' which told me that he's looking for a sure thing instead of a project and they are a poor rebounding team - even with Oden coming back, hopefully he'll be 100%, they need help on the glass. Aldridge should rebound more than he does with that size and Frye gives them nothing on the glass... And for the Knicks, as long as we make a smart choice with the 6th pick, I'd love to take a chance on a project like JaVale McGee at #13. Realistic scenario and a good trade for both clubs if you ask me.


[Edited by - finestrg on 06-09-2008 10:34 PM]
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6/9/2008  9:08 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Malik Rose Mardy Collins and a 2012 lottery protected 1 for Jarret Jack Joel Pryzbila and pick 13

Just awful!

Pryzbilla has a contract that extends the same length as Zach Randolph & this guy who keeps harping about not making panic trades that will hurt us in the longrun is suggesting a trade like this to add yet another garbage contract just so we can get a #13 pick now while losing a lottery protected pick in 2012?

meanwhile it makes absolutely no sense to this guy to DUMP a huge chunk of cap in order to gain some semblence of a chance to target some elite players in 2 years by moving down to #16 while keeping our future picks.

further contradiction when this guy includes Danilo Gallinari in his top 15 list when just a few days ago he called him the biggest bust of this draft.

don't expect any form of continuity or coherence in this guy's posts... exposed is right, & he continues to play himself w/contradictory posts like this.
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6/9/2008  9:10 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Hey isles can you use my top 15 and give me your 16th pick that you would use on the Knicks

Here you go

Derrick Rose
Michael Beasley
OJ Mayo
Javale Mcgee
Anthony Randolph
Jerryd Bayless
Russell Westbrook
Joe Alexander
Eric Gordon
Brook Lopez
Kevin Love
CDR
Kosta Kofous
Danilo Gallinari
DJ Augustine
pick 16

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:47 PM]

10 bucks he wont answer

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:56 PM]

I'll give you 5 players that will be just as good if not better than 5 of the players on your list.

Brandon Rush
Jordan
Greene
Speights
Arthur


Here's 2 more going outside the box

Billy Walker
Lawson


I knew islesfan wouldnt answer because he has no clue what he is even talking about but you did not answer the question either--who is your pick 16 --not 10 players 1

I'm not going to pick 16 going from your list because your list more than likely is going to be HORRIFICALLY INACURRATE so I'm going to pick who I feel will be on the board come June 26th at 16. Going by the compilations of Mock Drafts my pick is CDR. Now tell me who at 6 will definitely without a shadow of a doubt have a better pro career than CDR.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-09-2008 7:48 PM]

wait a second--CDR can be picked before 16==that is the whole gig at 6 I KNOW essentially what players are there--at 16 I dont have a frikin clue--so very much like trading zach for a non-guaranteed FA pick 16 may not turn out the way I might like it to. At pick 6 you are in a very nice position to draft a player you REALLY like --you had to use an excuse for pick 16 bottom line

LOL all you did was prove my point. A player who is projected by most mock drafts as being pick 16 and below is looked at by you as being worthy for being picked inside the Top 16. Just the same that someone projected to be in the Top 10 could and will slip past 16. No duh at pick 6 you have a field of 54 players to choose from but all of them aren't fitting inside of 16. The point is of the players you want at 6 all of them aren't going before 16. So we're going to have a player you want available at 16.

Would you like to make a gentleman's wager. I'd wager anything you want Briggs and I'll give you my Paypal Account so you have a means to pay me.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-09-2008 8:17 PM]
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6/9/2008  9:14 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Malik Rose Mardy Collins and a 2012 lottery protected 1 for Jarret Jack Joel Pryzbila and pick 13

Just awful!

Pryzbilla has a contract that extends the same length as Zach Randolph & this guy who keeps harping about not making panic trades that will hurt us in the longrun is suggesting a trade like this to add yet another garbage contract just so we can get a #13 pick now while losing a lottery protected pick in 2012?

meanwhile it makes absolutely no sense to this guy to DUMP a huge chunk of cap in order to gain some semblence of a chance to target some elite players in 2 years by moving down to #16 while keeping our future picks.

further contradiction when this guy includes Danilo Gallinari in his top 15 list when just a few days ago he called him the biggest bust of this draft.

don't expect any form of continuity or coherence in this guy's posts... exposed is right, & he continues to play himself w/contradictory posts like this.

.
3 mos ago he said DeAndre Jordan was worthy of a Top 3 pick and Javale Mcgee is worthy of a Top 5-7 and currently in his Top 15. Now Jordan isn't in his top 16 anymore and Javale Mcgee is slated in most mocks pick 15 -22 and yet he says pick 16 will have no value because it's essentially a Top 13 draft.

Seriously no consistency in his debates, striking wind with with every breath he types.


I suggested

T.J....Nesty...17

4

Jamal...Curry....and 6


and as usual no one sees the benefit of doing such a trade.




[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-09-2008 8:16 PM]

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-09-2008 8:18 PM]
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6/9/2008  9:15 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Hey isles can you use my top 15 and give me your 16th pick that you would use on the Knicks

Here you go

Derrick Rose
Michael Beasley
OJ Mayo
Javale Mcgee
Anthony Randolph
Jerryd Bayless
Russell Westbrook
Joe Alexander
Eric Gordon
Brook Lopez
Kevin Love
CDR
Kosta Kofous
Danilo Gallinari
DJ Augustine
pick 16

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:47 PM]

10 bucks he wont answer

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:56 PM]

LMAO This fraud gives me his top 15, when I asked him for 20 because he knows there are good players past his precious top 15. Now he's calling me out as if he's been answering anything.

Briggs, when you give me 20, I'll answer your question. Fair?
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6/9/2008  9:18 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Hey isles can you use my top 15 and give me your 16th pick that you would use on the Knicks

Here you go

Derrick Rose
Michael Beasley
OJ Mayo
Javale Mcgee
Anthony Randolph
Jerryd Bayless
Russell Westbrook
Joe Alexander
Eric Gordon
Brook Lopez
Kevin Love
CDR
Kosta Kofous
Danilo Gallinari
DJ Augustine
pick 16

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:47 PM]

10 bucks he wont answer

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:56 PM]

I'll give you 5 players that will be just as good if not better than 5 of the players on your list.

Brandon Rush
Jordan
Greene
Speights
Arthur


Here's 2 more going outside the box

Billy Walker
Lawson


I knew islesfan wouldnt answer because he has no clue what he is even talking about but you did not answer the question either--who is your pick 16 --not 10 players 1

Actually I didn't answer because I had to run out to Home Depot. But don't you worry your pretty little head, I'll answer it as soon as you answer what your top 20 would be. I've only asked numerous times and you keep dodging the question.
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6/9/2008  9:19 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Hey isles can you use my top 15 and give me your 16th pick that you would use on the Knicks

Here you go

Derrick Rose
Michael Beasley
OJ Mayo
Javale Mcgee
Anthony Randolph
Jerryd Bayless
Russell Westbrook
Joe Alexander
Eric Gordon
Brook Lopez
Kevin Love
CDR
Kosta Kofous
Danilo Gallinari
DJ Augustine
pick 16

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:47 PM]

10 bucks he wont answer

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-09-2008 7:56 PM]

I'll give you 5 players that will be just as good if not better than 5 of the players on your list.

Brandon Rush
Jordan
Greene
Speights
Arthur


Here's 2 more going outside the box

Billy Walker
Lawson


I knew islesfan wouldnt answer because he has no clue what he is even talking about but you did not answer the question either--who is your pick 16 --not 10 players 1

I'm not going to pick 16 going from your list because your list more than likely is going to be HORRIFICALLY INACURRATE so I'm going to pick who I feel will be on the board come June 26th at 16. Going by the compilations of Mock Drafts my pick is CDR. Now tell me who at 6 will definitely without a shadow of a doubt have a better pro career than CDR.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-09-2008 7:48 PM]

wait a second--CDR can be picked before 16==that is the whole gig at 6 I KNOW essentially what players are there--at 16 I dont have a frikin clue--so very much like trading zach for a non-guaranteed FA pick 16 may not turn out the way I might like it to. At pick 6 you are in a very nice position to draft a player you REALLY like --you had to use an excuse for pick 16 bottom line

LOL all you did was prove my point. A player who is projected by most mock drafts as being pick 16 and below is looked at by you as being worthy for being picked inside the Top 16. Just the same that someone projected to be in the Top 10 could and will slip past 20. No duh at pick 6 you have a field of 54 players to choose from but all of them aren't fitting inside of 16. The point is of the players you want at 6 all of them aren't going before 16. So we're going to have a player you want available at 16.

Would you like to make a gentleman's wager. I'd wager anything you want Briggs and I'll give you my Paypal Account so you have a means to pay me.

This is so stupid I will stop here. Are you wagering me the player's picked on the mock drafts at 6 will fall to 16? Ok Ill bet $10,000 wherever whenever.
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