Posted by TMS:

hey i suggested doing this a while ago... consolidating all the draft talk makes sense.

Me three and many lashed came with Rage and Fury you being one of them. Remember Briggs had all his Kevin Costners here to defend their Whitney Houston when I was suggesting he and others create one thread and sticky it. Even asking for ideas for possibly creating categories. Of course Briggs wasn't the only guilty one but he really had them coming strong a while ago. You lashed out specifically and replied "Thanks for creating another draft talk thread suggesting we condense draft talk threads!"

All it took I guess was for what I would assume a more popular poster in DJ to start a similar thread idea and the masses jump aboard. I ain't mad at DJ. Big Up to him, it was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy overdue!

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-04-2008 6:33 PM]

dude, give it a rest already... u made a separate thread to suggest that draft threads were cluttering up the forums... excuse me for commenting on it... i made the original suggestion in the context of a draft discussion where you could have easily chimed in & posted your agreement, instead you chose to post up your own thread to add to the clutter.

take a look at the forum now... we have playa posting up a thread on Robin Lopez & 3 hours later BRIGGS adds another Robin Lopez thread... it's ridiculous.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-04-2008 4:41 PM]

Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by joec32033:

Personally I would like to trade into the top 3 to get dibs on whoever falls between Beasley, Rose, and Mayo. I would also lie to add another top 10-12 pick like Portland did when they got Aldridge and Roy. This would also be the only circumstances that I would consider trading Lee.


The way I see it right now:

-Rose is the obvious top choice for Chicago.

-I have a feeling Beasley will fall at FARTHEST to #5(Memphis). Let me play this out for you guys.

>I see Chicago going Rose #1.

>Miami may or may not trade down, but they won't trade down lower than 6(the lowest where Mayo will drop, IMO). If their Mayo love is true, they have Minny as an option(depending on if Minny wants Beasley), Seattle(They love Bayless and already have Durant and Green), Memphis(who I think would love to take Beasley-If he wants to play for them). The Knicks at 6 actually make the most sense as a partner for Miami because we can trade up to get Beasley, we have the young players (Balk, Chandler, Lee, Nate, Curry) to get the #2 if packaged with the #6 and It takes us out of the Mayo running. Miami can surprise everyone and take Mayo #2 if his leadership/mental approach make up the difference in skill between him and Beasley.

>Minny will not take a guard, imo. They need a C or a PF to pair with Jefferson. Lopez may be a reach, but he is the best center available right now. Can't rule out a guy like Randolph here either being Minny is so young he will have time to develop.

>Seattle will take Bayless.

>Memphis needs to find out who wants to play for them. If they take the pick I see Love or Lopez going here. In all honesty I don't see them taing this pick. I will say this. I see Philly (who wants to trade into the top 5 maybe making a deal here. If Philly does trade in here, I see them taking a guy like Eric Gordon or Mayo. They have Thad Young and will have a resigned Iggy. No way they go big unless they trade up to take Lopez and get rid of Dalembert.

>NY. If I was Walsh I trade up to the top 3 with Minny. Maybe offer Curry and the 6 for Antoine Walker and the 3. Minny can still grab any of the names we keep hearing they like, have a compliment to Jefferson to move him to PF and we get Beasley or Mayo. We also still have Lee and Randolph to package(or Lee and Balkman or Lee and Chandler) to move back into the top 10 to grab a guy like Jordan or Gordon or whoever.

[Edited by - joec32033 on 04 June 2008 16:13]

I agree - I think we need to try to move up aggressively. I think its a little odd but the Miami pick does look to be up for grabs. I would start with Lee and the #6. And go as far as David Lee, #6, Nate Robinson, and Marbury (22 mil in expiring) for Mark Blount, Udonis Haslem, Marcus Banks and the #2 (Beasley). Alternatively, if you wait and Mayo, in fact, falls to 6, then maybe you have more leverage. Maybe then, you can get away with just Mayo + Lee for Beasley.

The plus is that only Banks ($4.5 mil) extends into 2010-11 and, without Lee's impending extension, we retain the option of handing out a max contract in 2010.

I'd want another pick in the top 10 to grab Westbrook but its likely we won't have any bait left at that point.
Maybe Malik Rose (7 mil in expiring), Wilson Chandler + next years pick (top 12 protected) for Bobby Simmons (10 mil through 2010) + #8.

Are you that convinced that Beasely is for real? That's a lot to give up and take back.

Posted by TMS:

dude, give it a rest already... u made a separate thread to suggest that draft threads were cluttering up the forums... excuse me for commenting on it... i made the original suggestion in the context of a draft discussion where you could have easily chimed in & posted your agreement, instead you chose to post up your own thread to add to the clutter.

take a look at the forum now... we have playa posting up a thread on Robin Lopez & 3 hours later BRIGGS adds another Robin Lopez thread... it's ridiculous.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-04-2008 4:41 PM]

This discussion occurred a few months ago where I simply told Briggs the same thing and you were one of the people that felt that what I said was worthy of insulting me. I'm not making an issue of it but it is funny now.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by TMS:

dude, give it a rest already... u made a separate thread to suggest that draft threads were cluttering up the forums... excuse me for commenting on it... i made the original suggestion in the context of a draft discussion where you could have easily chimed in & posted your agreement, instead you chose to post up your own thread to add to the clutter.

take a look at the forum now... we have playa posting up a thread on Robin Lopez & 3 hours later BRIGGS adds another Robin Lopez thread... it's ridiculous.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-04-2008 4:41 PM]

This discussion occurred a few months ago where I simply told Briggs the same thing and you were one of the people that felt that what I said was worthy of insulting me. I'm not making an issue of it but it is funny now.

+ Infinity

TMS chided at both of us but I guess we're on a depends who says so then act upon it type gig.

Don't drag me into any arguments. You're on your own on this one.

Posted by GKFv2:

This discussion occurred a few months ago where I simply told Briggs the same thing and you were one of the people that felt that what I said was worthy of insulting me. I'm not making an issue of it but it is funny now.

let me take this opportunity to formally apologize to you for any insults i may have thrown at you over it... i shoulda never even bothered to get involved.

all you have to do is start a title with "official" and if it's topical thread, it will be stickied.

knicks need to get at least 1 more pick in the teens.

now this is a draft workout we need video of:

Workouts Continue Thursday

The Raptors pre-draft workouts continue today at the adidas practice court as Chris Douglas-Roberts, Bill Walker and Brandon Rush will look to impress the Raptors. Check back later today for video from the players at the workout and Jim Kelly's thoughts on what he saw. Check out the prospect profiles for more.

Check out the latest from the pre-draft workouts and on the draft pospects that worked out at the adidas practice court Wednesday.

Posted by martin:

Posted by djsunyc:

all you have to do is start a title with "official" and if it's topical thread, it will be stickied.

knicks need to get at least 1 more pick in the teens.

For whom?

dj or cdr...

The idea of moving up is very interesting. There's something to be said about getting a star player for this team. It's likely more effective than trying to get a couple of lower picks who would most likely be high level role players, which is fine if you've got a star, but in our case we lack a real lead player, so if it's at all possible to move up I would hope they would do it. You would have to give up a guy like Lee and take back a player we don't need to do it

Now if they can't move up then a move to add another pick is the right thing to do. We need a PG and Shotblocking big. I think a draft were we take Randolph and Augustin would be considered a successful draft for us.

THEY BETTER TAKE WHO I WANT OR THEY ARE STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARRRRGGGG






LOL, I would really like another pick in the draft. I don't care how either or who we trade.... I'm so past alot of the players on the team. I look at this whole period needs to be about getting talent that fits Mike D.

Batum or Mcgee or Koufos or Rush would help this team alot.