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GKFv2
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6/3/2008  4:13 PM
Uh, Flip sucks at coaching defense. They learned all that from Larry Brown.

Flip is an OK coach but his time was up there. I don't think a new coach will make them any better though. It's time to break up the Pistons. Their team is aging and their run is over.
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6/3/2008  4:26 PM
Posted by GKFv2:

Uh, Flip sucks at coaching defense. They learned all that from Larry Brown.

Flip is an OK coach but his time was up there. I don't think a new coach will make them any better though. It's time to break up the Pistons. Their team is aging and their run is over.

That is true, I agree with you on the sense that they're aging, but as long as Boston and Cleveland (if that) are all Detroit has to worry about in the East, they can make minor moves to still compete with them. Unlike the West that has up and coming teams, the East's future is still very bleak.
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6/3/2008  4:31 PM
Flip Saunders is the half court offense version of Mike D'Antonio.
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6/3/2008  4:46 PM
Posted by GKFv2:

Uh, Flip sucks at coaching defense. They learned all that from Larry Brown.

Flip is an OK coach but his time was up there. I don't think a new coach will make them any better though. It's time to break up the Pistons. Their team is aging and their run is over.


Not giving Flip credit for having his team rank 1st in points allowed (90) and first in fg% (44) some four years after Brown has been long gone is not being fair to Flip. If thats the case why not give Carlise the credit for putting together the system before Brown. Detroit was essentially the same team even when Brown took over. They didn't become a real champioship contender until Rasheed Wallace came aboard, another guy who should get the credit.
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6/3/2008  9:58 PM
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Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

Flip is sounding better than D'antoni right about now. Thank you Walsh, for rushing to conclusions.

How is Flip a better candidate? He's won just as much as D'Antoni.

so that Marbury can be happy & catered to once again? no thanks.
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6/3/2008  10:29 PM
Its too late in the game for a coach to cater to Marbury. He's shown his real side the past few years, and not he's simply not good enough to be catered by a coach or executive. Marbury is now a non factor when it comes to head coaching.
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6/3/2008  10:31 PM
no he's not... in Marbury's own crazy mind he's planning on being Starbury again & averaging 8 assists & 13 dimes this year... the last thing i woulda wanted is to bring in a head coach who would allow that insane individual to lead this team any further.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-03-2008 7:32 PM]
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6/3/2008  10:34 PM
Posted by TMS:

no he's not... in Marbury's own crazy mind he's planning on being Starbury again & averaging 8 assists & 13 dimes this year... the last thing i woulda wanted is to bring in a head coach who would allow that insane individual to lead this team any further.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-03-2008 7:32 PM]

After what D'antoni coached in Phoenix, he's not letting Douchebury be an issue. Walsh has his back too.

After what Saunders coached in Detroit, he wouldn't let Douchebury be an issue. Walsh would've had his back too.
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6/3/2008  10:38 PM
Looks like the Pistons found their own Mark Jackson.

Michael Curry will be named Head Coach. Theres a good chance this will most likely be another shrewd decision by Dumars.

[Edited by - jrzyhustla on 06-03-2008 10:39 PM]
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6/3/2008  10:42 PM
I would have preferred Saunders over D'Antonio as the head coach. At least he doesn't need "Saunders type players".

Flip wouldn't have guided them to a championship but neither will D'Antonio and the roster won't have to be completely turned over from the one dimensional "D'Antonio type players" when a coaching change needs to be made.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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6/3/2008  10:45 PM
Posted by islesfan:

I would have preferred Saunders over D'Antonio as the head coach. At least he doesn't need "Saunders type players".

Flip wouldn't have guided them to a championship but neither will D'Antonio and the roster won't have to be completely turned over from the one dimensional "D'Antonio type players" when a coaching change needs to be made.

No you may be mistaken. We should worry about the crybaby who won't be here the season after next a lot more than the fact that Flip wouldn't need "Saunders type players."

Sheesh.
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6/3/2008  10:46 PM
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

Flip is sounding better than D'antoni right about now. Thank you Walsh, for rushing to conclusions.

How is Flip a better candidate? He's won just as much as D'Antoni.

He seems to have a better balance of offense and defense, whether or not he inherited a more defensive oriented team as opposed to D'antoni. And the 3 consecutive ECF carries more weight than what D'antoni accomplished in Phoenix.

Flip took over a ready made team. And D'Antoni played in the West. There is a huge disparity in the West and the East.

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6/3/2008  10:49 PM
Posted by islesfan:

I would have preferred Saunders over D'Antonio as the head coach. At least he doesn't need "Saunders type players".

Flip wouldn't have guided them to a championship but neither will D'Antonio and the roster won't have to be completely turned over from the one dimensional "D'Antonio type players" when a coaching change needs to be made.

+Infinity

I don't get the mindset Flip would cater to Marbury vs Mike San'Antonio who thought Marbury was a bit of a Cancer in Phx and was behind the trade to New York 100%. Neither sounds appealing over the other IMO. But of course we have those who cater to their preference, while not making logic come together.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-03-2008 9:54 PM]
LMFAO @ the Bio [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury[/url]
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Posted by Uptown:
Posted by GKFv2:

Uh, Flip sucks at coaching defense. They learned all that from Larry Brown.

Flip is an OK coach but his time was up there. I don't think a new coach will make them any better though. It's time to break up the Pistons. Their team is aging and their run is over.


Not giving Flip credit for having his team rank 1st in points allowed (90) and first in fg% (44) some four years after Brown has been long gone is not being fair to Flip. If thats the case why not give Carlise the credit for putting together the system before Brown. Detroit was essentially the same team even when Brown took over. They didn't become a real champioship contender until Rasheed Wallace came aboard, another guy who should get the credit.


Larry Brown my azz they learned everything they needed to learn under Carisle.
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6/3/2008  10:50 PM
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

Looks like the Pistons found their own Mark Jackson.

Michael Curry will be named Head Coach. Theres a good chance this will most likely be another shrewd decision by Dumars.

[Edited by - jrzyhustla on 06-03-2008 10:39 PM]

I wonder why they aren't interested in Isiah rejoining the only team he's had a positive impact with.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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6/3/2008  10:50 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

Flip is sounding better than D'antoni right about now. Thank you Walsh, for rushing to conclusions.

How is Flip a better candidate? He's won just as much as D'Antoni.

He seems to have a better balance of offense and defense, whether or not he inherited a more defensive oriented team as opposed to D'antoni. And the 3 consecutive ECF carries more weight than what D'antoni accomplished in Phoenix.

Flip took over a ready made team. And D'Antoni played in the West. There is a huge disparity in the West and the East.

Ahh yes, I forgot that counts as an excuse. You're blaming Flip for the cards he was dealt more than you're realizing he nearly optimized that Pistons team that he inherited. Wonderful.
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6/3/2008  10:52 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

Flip is sounding better than D'antoni right about now. Thank you Walsh, for rushing to conclusions.

How is Flip a better candidate? He's won just as much as D'Antoni.

He seems to have a better balance of offense and defense, whether or not he inherited a more defensive oriented team as opposed to D'antoni. And the 3 consecutive ECF carries more weight than what D'antoni accomplished in Phoenix.

Flip took over a ready made team. And D'Antoni played in the West. There is a huge disparity in the West and the East.


The Pistons won more games under Flip in a 3yr span than any other coach in Pistons coach in History I believe. That has to count for something. I love how some are trying to minimize what he did there to make their own feelings work out the rationale. IMO they are both EPIC failures and I say Ewwwww to both. Double Standard here that's for sure.

LMFAO @ the Bio [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury[/url]
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6/3/2008  10:54 PM
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by islesfan:

I would have preferred Saunders over D'Antonio as the head coach. At least he doesn't need "Saunders type players".

Flip wouldn't have guided them to a championship but neither will D'Antonio and the roster won't have to be completely turned over from the one dimensional "D'Antonio type players" when a coaching change needs to be made.

No you may be mistaken. We should worry about the crybaby who won't be here the season after next a lot more than the fact that Flip wouldn't need "Saunders type players."

Sheesh.

If anything, Saunders would have had a better chance at keeping Starbury in line for most of the season. What's the big deal about Marbury anyway, he's gone after this season regardless of how he plays. He's a non entity.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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6/3/2008  10:57 PM
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

Flip is sounding better than D'antoni right about now. Thank you Walsh, for rushing to conclusions.

How is Flip a better candidate? He's won just as much as D'Antoni.

He seems to have a better balance of offense and defense, whether or not he inherited a more defensive oriented team as opposed to D'antoni. And the 3 consecutive ECF carries more weight than what D'antoni accomplished in Phoenix.

Flip took over a ready made team. And D'Antoni played in the West. There is a huge disparity in the West and the East.

Ahh yes, I forgot that counts as an excuse. You're blaming Flip for the cards he was dealt more than you're realizing he nearly optimized that Pistons team that he inherited. Wonderful.

Yeah and one of the best GM just sent him a pink slip obviously you know more than Joe Dumars. You know the working of the Pistons better than Dumars.

Flip won in the West right. Everyone is a great coach but D'Antoni right. Please enough already with nonsense. You guys really have to learn to give people a chance. Stop stomping on people before they even get a chance to accomplish something.

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6/3/2008  10:57 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by islesfan:

I would have preferred Saunders over D'Antonio as the head coach. At least he doesn't need "Saunders type players".

Flip wouldn't have guided them to a championship but neither will D'Antonio and the roster won't have to be completely turned over from the one dimensional "D'Antonio type players" when a coaching change needs to be made.

No you may be mistaken. We should worry about the crybaby who won't be here the season after next a lot more than the fact that Flip wouldn't need "Saunders type players."

Sheesh.

If anything, Saunders would have had a better chance at keeping Starbury in line for most of the season. What's the big deal about Marbury anyway, he's gone after this season regardless of how he plays. He's a non entity.

Exactly my point. He won't be here after this season. What the Hell is the fuss for ? Kind of sad how some people still factor this loser into the equation when it comes to the true decisions this organization needs to make to get into the right direction.
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