Posted by djsunyc:

knicks better get a point guard or else next season will look very ugly.

Trade down with New Jersey, offer Lee and 6th for Boone, 10, and 21. Draft Augustin and CDR and call it a day.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by djsunyc:

knicks better get a point guard or else next season will look very ugly.

I think we need to take the BPA at position 6. Who is the pure PG that the Celtics and Lakers have?

We need a LOT of things--trying to reach for a player because of a need this year is a mistake. Randolph Westbrook--either or.

unless your team has franchise players...it MUST have a high quality pg otherwise you have no chance.

anthony randolph is NOT a can't miss prospect. it's a gamble. are the knicks in a position to gamble? is walsh, at age 67 w/ a 3 year deal in a position to gamble? how about d'antoni?

knicks will take the safe thing or trade the pick. but w/o a point guard...it's gonna be ugly again next season. d'antoni w/o a pg = fail.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 05-31-2008 8:10 PM]

Briggs, you're starting to sell me on Westbrook. stop it.

Posted by djsunyc:

knicks better get a point guard or else next season will look very ugly.

Knicks already have a point guard. They have Marbigan. If you can't have the Skipper manning the helm, at least you can have the first mate.

I think Augustin or EG is the right pick and if you can trade down so be it. I think Westbrook is a solid player and will be 9-12 in the draft because of his lack of skills offensively.

Posted by djsunyc:

knicks should draft dj augustine and call it a day. if they can't trade down, take him at 6. imho, the only real pg in the draft.

If Mayo isn't there, I am so down with this.

The more I see on these guys, the more I favor trading down to late lotto if Mayo and Bayless are gone at pick 6.

I liked Eric Gordon a lot early on but he struggled mightily in the 2nd half of the season and he looked frustrated as hell (makes me question how he will do in NY where you have to be even more mentally tough). Of course, Gordon has been saying now that it was his wrist that caused the lackluster play. If thats the case, then things get even more interesting. Lets get this straight, Gordon is a much better fit than Westbrook in D'Antoni's system right now. We give Gordon the advantage there. What you have to look at now, is whether or not Gordon can become a star type player in the NBA or simply a good role player in D'Antoni's system. Personally, I think we have to make sure we get the best player we can at pick 6. We don't have any serious prospects on our roster that will make all-star teams.

At the same time though, if Walsh truly wants to give D'Antoni the pieces he needs to succeed, he can't just draft someone who won't fit his system. Westbrook, right now, wouldn't be a great fit because our guards are not great shooters and if we are going to draft a guard, we need to draft one that will be able to knock down shots. The good thing about Westbrook though is he can play the transition game and seems to have a good work ethic. I don't doubt that Westbrook can develop into a good shooter in this league. Its still a gamble though. Westbrook's defense is top-notch but people have to remember that defense isn't the primary concern in D'Antoni's system. The system is based on offense and offense is what D'Antoni emphasizes first. Contrary to what some think, D'Antoni doesn't hate defense (and he actually does stress it), but as is well known, he tries to make sure that the offense is clicking first.

Its a tough decision. You can't just draft Gordon because he is the better fit. Don't get me wrong, it is certainly an advantage that he fits the system better than Westbrook, but you also have to make sure that Gordon has what it takes to be a very good player in this league. As for Westbrook, if you are convinced that the guy has a great work ethic and will improve considerably on the offensive end, you have to seriously consider taking him over Gordon.

Walsh has a good track record, I trust that he'll make a good decision.

[Edited by - s3231 on 06-01-2008 1:17 PM]

Posted by King1:

EG played with a broken wrist, a messed up coach, and was supposed to carry this young team. Most 18 year olds would have said I am coming out I am hanging it up. EG played and tried to play through the injury and a coaching change in the middle of the year. We are talking about a 18 year old kid not a grown adult

I honestly didn't know that he was playing with a broken wrist until a week ago. That really changed my opinion of him back to a favorable one. I think the kid has unquestionably been through a lot this season. I have some concerns as far as height and position, but I still think he is a good prospect. I won't be upset if he is our pick at 6.


[Edited by - s3231 on 06-01-2008 1:38 PM]

I like Augustin, but not at 6. I'd rather take a guy like McGee who I think has major upside. If you can't get Mayo, then trade down and hope to get another pick in the process and take Augustin, cuz he's not a BPA pick.

As for Gordon and Westbrook, I feel like Westbrook is a combination of the Suns Raja Bell and Barbosa. He defends like Bell but plays the speed game like Barbosa. So to me he DOES fit into a D'Antoni system.