neither guy is a all star , no matter the spin
both guys are good players and can have nights where they can play a dominant game.
in the east Pierce,mcgrady, carter there the all stars in the EAST. period topic locked.

Posted by ARES:

neither guy is a all star , no matter the spin
both guys are good players and can have nights where they can play a dominant game.
in the east Pierce,mcgrady, carter there the all stars in the EAST. period topic locked.

I gotta say I've lost a lot of respect for Carter. Don't be surprised if two years down the line, he's the next Sprewell. Pierce, Tmac, Ivo are all better than our very own Housless, no doubt. But, like Housless, Vince hasn't progressed beyond being a one trick pony. He can dunk.

Hopefully this year, he'll FINALLY bring da noise, bring da funk.

Well, I think Houston's skills make him a great accessory star. He'd be fantastic playing alongside Duncan, for example. He can score from anywhere on the floor, though midrange is his specialty. Swap him in for Peja and he'd do the job for the Kings. Swap him in for Kobe... err, nah, getting carried away here. Houston's all-around stats, however, tend to be a little raw. He's a shooter/scorer, and not much else. It's similar to the argument people often used to make about Reggie and the all-star teams.

Regarding Sprewell, I can see where you're coming from. Too often it seemed as if Sprewell didn't have the fire. How can you tell? In quite a few games, he had gone cold, and it didn't look like he even broke a sweat. He rarely showed the fire he had in previous seasons. What was his high scoring game last year? Did he break 30 even once?

I recall reading an article about Sprewell, comparing his career to that of Ron Harper. Their stats are virtually identical to a point. After he hit a certain age, his production declined rapidly. Is it a result of fighting against bigger players? Maybe... maybe he just lost the fire to be "the guy" and became content using his energies to being a role player. And maybe this is what's happening w/ Sprewell. (we'll see this season... if Sprewell can turn it up a notch again!)

Posted by necrom33:

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It's common knowledge that, while he has improved, Housless is still a one trick pony. A straight up jump shooter. That just won't get it done, as far as popularity goes. <snip> No way is Allan Housless going to sit Iverson, Tmac or Pierce (to just name 3) come All-Star time.

As far as Spree goes, I have an unproveable theory. Let me state that he is my favorite Knicks player. But in all honesty, I think he's given up. <snip> I'm hoping they move Spree somewhere where he can revive his career. <snip>I hope they move him sooner than they did with Ew, while he can contribute to another team.

Posted by ARES:

if healthy i pack houston and sprees bags for carter he is what 5 years younger and just as good or better.

Sorry, u misunderstood. I'm not comparing Carter to either Spree or Housless. I'm comparing him to what he could've been if he had the health and/or dedication to improve his game beyond dunking.

Posted by technomaster:

While he's still the Knick player most likely to get a triple double, he's definitely not the player he was with Golden State where he played at 100 mph all the time. Nowadays, he seems to coast a bit.

You think the 48 minutes he'd play a game in GS finally caught up with him? The guys NEVER SAT down. I believe he led the league in mintues one season.

But Spree can change his game. Houston can't. Houston will always be a spot shooting, no defense playing, over paid softee. He would be lucky if he is ever an all-star again.