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5/29/2008  1:49 AM
Posted by VDesai:
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Bill Cartwright.

Okay, but they are indeed rare and highly unlikely.

Larry Krystowiak is 6'9" Mark Iavaroni is 6'8". Rudy T was 6'8". Larry Bird was 6'9". Phil Jackson 6'8". Paul Silas 6'7". Not sure the extra 3 inches makes him any less capable.

The question was 'how many 7 footers'! You named a bunch of 6-8, 6-9's but failed to name any other 7 footers. Well?

But you guys see the point I make, right? Having a 7' coach shouldn't be a disqualification, but how come no ones hires them? So being 7' should not be a reason to hire Ewing, just because he's 7'. To me, that is now 'two strikes' against him. One he hasn't really developed any big fellas and two, his height isn't a requirement.

So why should we hire him? What' just because he wore a Knick uniform and was a great player? Then why not hire jordan, Kareem, Dr. J., or the many other superstars in the league as our assistant coach? That's still not a requirement.

So why hire him? Give me a real' reason.
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5/29/2008  3:41 AM
i thought i gave u reasons already... he's done some good work w/Yao & Howard helping them to mature into dominant bigmen in this game... those kids had the talent no doubt but you also have to factor in the coaching they recieved during those growing years that helped them to get to where they are today as players... i don't think u can simply dismiss Ewing's influence on those kids & i would love to see what he could do w/our bigs... it's not like Herb's been doing such a terrific job of it... if u ask me Aguirre did some nice work w/Curry a year ago but i think we need to get all the Isiah influences off this team & bring in a new perspective here as long as we're changing over the regime anyway... a guy who's had a much closer tie w/this franchise than any of Isiah's guys or even Herb & who's already shown he is a capable assistant coach like Ewing fits the bill IMHO... this isn't even a case of Ewing being my favorite Knick of alltime & i just want him here for sentimental reasons... on the contrary he was never really 1 of my favorite Knicks but I came to appreciate him much more once he was gone... Starks, Ward, LJ & Houston were my guys but you don't see me creating threads to bring them back as coaches.

[Edited by - TMS on 05-29-2008 12:42 AM]
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5/29/2008  8:58 AM

Bill russell, one of the greatest players, and I think won 10 IT 10 of 11 years, was one of the worst head coaches in history. The man could play, but was loopy. Still is. He won IT as a player/coach but that team was almost self coached.

Ewing is a great guy, but given the opportunity to hire MikeyD, I think he must realize he is not in the same league as this guy. It would be a mistake to have him as an assistant as he might be the kind of backstabber that might put his interests ahead of the team. He was that kind of player also.

If he wanted to just be an assitant thats one thing, but to have an outward ambitious guy on the bench is not a good idea.

Willis Reed is another that did not pan out as a coach.
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5/29/2008  9:32 AM
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5/29/2008  9:45 AM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by TMS:

Bill Cartwright.

Okay, but they are indeed rare and highly unlikely.

Larry Krystowiak is 6'9" Mark Iavaroni is 6'8". Rudy T was 6'8". Larry Bird was 6'9". Phil Jackson 6'8". Paul Silas 6'7". Not sure the extra 3 inches makes him any less capable.

The question was 'how many 7 footers'! You named a bunch of 6-8, 6-9's but failed to name any other 7 footers. Well?

But you guys see the point I make, right? Having a 7' coach shouldn't be a disqualification, but how come no ones hires them? So being 7' should not be a reason to hire Ewing, just because he's 7'. To me, that is now 'two strikes' against him. One he hasn't really developed any big fellas and two, his height isn't a requirement.

So why should we hire him? What' just because he wore a Knick uniform and was a great player? Then why not hire jordan, Kareem, Dr. J., or the many other superstars in the league as our assistant coach? That's still not a requirement.

So why hire him? Give me a real' reason.

After HOURS upon HOURS upon HOURS of searching because there is no SEARCH function on this site, I found the post I was looking for:
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quote:Originally posted by Uptown:

quote:Originally posted by 4949:

quote:Originally posted by Uptown:

As fas as Ewing is conerned, its all about perception. Lets be honest, according to most, Ewing is just another, aloof, giant, who didn't need to use his brains to dunk a basketball. I think most, not all, but most centers carry this stereotype around with them (save for the man with more rings than fingers).

Most players who turned coach seem to be the heady guys. PG's or those slow, unathletic players who were too slow and had to use their smarts to compete.

Check some of the current coaches:

Sam Mitchell
Sam Vincent
Byron Scott
Avery Johnson
George Karl
Phil Jackson
Marc Ivaroni
Randy Witman
Nate Mcmillian
Doc Rivers

None of these guys were stars buy any stretch. Most were energy guys off the bench, or PG's. No centers on that list.

[Edited by - Uptown on 04-24-2008 8:53 PM]

Here's a good question. Has there ever' been a seven foot coach on any team, in any year? And what did they do if so. For some reason, it just doesn't look right. Mark Aguire was supposed to make the big guys tough and where did it get our big guys?

Bill Russell. He was the player/coach of the celts one year when they won the ring. He also coached the Kings. Bill Cartwright coached the Bulls for a minute as well.

Paul Silas-Cavs and Hornets. Wes Unseld-Bullets. Dave Cowens-Charlotte and GS. Bob Lanier. Kurt Rambis. Willis Reed (Nets, 1988).
Search Function woulda made this easier.

These are all the LEGIT 7 footers.

[Edited by - joec32033 on 29 May 2008 09:46]
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5/29/2008  10:15 AM
First off I love Pat Ewing. I Had the Sneakers, had the jersey, went through the hard times of the tough 90's Team but can Pat even handle the New York Media??? He sure didn't like them(or the Fans) when he was here. Can you fire a slow starting Pat Ewing coached knick team??? To many questions.
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5/29/2008  10:50 AM
Ewing shouldn't be complaining that he didn't get called for an interview for the head coaching job. If the team considered him worth talking to, they would have called. Calling some guy who has been an asst primarily because he happened to be a great player on that team would only mean he got an interview but had no chance at the job. If he wants a token interview with a team that isn't really interested in him, he's not showing good judgment.
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5/29/2008  2:03 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by TMS:

Bill Cartwright.

Okay, but they are indeed rare and highly unlikely.

John Thompson is 1 of the most legendary coaches in college history... k, he falls 2 inches short... damn you!
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5/29/2008  5:41 PM
Posted by TMS:

i thought i gave u reasons already...
[Edited by - TMS on 05-29-2008 12:42 AM]

Yeah, I know you did, but damn it! V sent me over the edge again.
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5/29/2008  5:42 PM
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Playing is a job. Coaching is an art.
Anybody can learn to paint walls but not too many can make paintings... Even bad paintings...

Unless your Jackson Pollock.
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5/29/2008  5:44 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by TMS:

Bill Cartwright.

Okay, but they are indeed rare and highly unlikely.

John Thompson is 1 of the most legendary coaches in college history... k, he falls 2 inches short... damn you!

AHHH! AHHH! So' you admit my point!
I'll never trust this' team again.
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5/29/2008  6:03 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by TMS:

Bill Cartwright.

Okay, but they are indeed rare and highly unlikely.

John Thompson is 1 of the most legendary coaches in college history... k, he falls 2 inches short... damn you!

AHHH! AHHH! So' you admit my point!

Didn't we have this discussion already. I believe Joe upped the convo you and I had about the centers who have coached in this league (Cartwright, Bill Russell, Reed, Unseld etc.) With the change in philosphy and the focus shift from centers to guards (pg's) Centers are a rare species on the court and on the sidelines.

But it shouldn't matter what position you played, if you know the game, you know the game. Isiah was one of the greatest pg's ever and you see how things worked out for him.

[Edited by - uptown on 05-29-2008 6:04 PM]
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5/29/2008  6:08 PM
Posted by Uptown:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by TMS:

Bill Cartwright.

Okay, but they are indeed rare and highly unlikely.

John Thompson is 1 of the most legendary coaches in college history... k, he falls 2 inches short... damn you!

AHHH! AHHH! So' you admit my point!

Didn't we have this discussion already. I believe Joe upped the convo you and I had about the centers who have coached in this league (Cartwright, Bill Russell, Reed, Unseld etc.) With the change in philosphy and the focus shift from centers to guards (pg's) Centers are a rare species on the court and on the sidelines.

But it shouldn't matter what position you played, if you know the game, you know the game. Isiah was one of the greatest pg's ever and you see how things worked out for him.

[Edited by - uptown on 05-29-2008 6:04 PM]

Yes we did! Man' you remember that?! I knew I did, but could not for the life of me remember with whom or when. Good memory.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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