Posted by tkf:
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Posted by TrueBlue:
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Posted by TrueBlue:
My draft board went like this around January-February
1. Beasley
2. Gordon
3. Jordan
4. Thabeet
5. Mayo
6. Rose
After the tournament it went
1. Beasley
2. Mayo
3. Jordan
4. Gordon(Thabeet doesn't declare
5. Rose although Bayless is growing on me some
What the heck kind of draft board is that? Rose #5 after Gordon AND Mayo?
I want to know about Jordan. Forget Mayo, Beasley and Rose because they will all be gone and I doubt we draft Gordon.
And I would never take Beasley #1. What position does he play?
Major I saw Beasley and Mayo in person square off at the tournament. All Beasley needs to do is put on 10lbs and tighten up his man D and he's a complete stud 4. Whoever drafts him, I'm going to be so jealous, he's a freak of nature.
Just like you think Beasley is overrated I think Rose is just as much the same. The guy played on a stacked squad as a two playing point and got glory as the best floor general in college when most saw it was CDR who carried that team.
Beasley will play the 4 trust me.
The only 2 players in this draft is are true Franchise players are Beasley and Mayo. My draft board went who I thought are the best players in the country then went immediately to need then to BPA.
[Edited by - TrueBlue on 05-21-2008 01:05 AM]
Mayo is not a franchise player. Get outta here with that nonsense.
Anyway, we're not getting Mayo or Beasely so who cares. Lets focus on players who will be available at SIX. I want to know more about Jordan!!!!!!!!!!
And I don't think Beasley is overrated, he is what he is. I just think he's weak on the defensive end and I want my PF to have length and play some serious defense.
The few times I have seen him play, I forgot he was on the floor... I was calling him casper the ghost...... Again this draft for me was all about rose.. I am not that big a fan of beasley.. but I sure as hell don't want this kid at #6 he has no offensive skills whatsoever, and doesn't stand out when he is on the floor.. he should have went back to school..
You can develop the offensive skills if you're a big man who is athletic and willing to work VERY hard. When Bynum first came into the league he was very raw and Kobe wanted him gone. But Bynum worked his ass off with Kareem and is now looking like he can be a serious talent if he ever gets healthy. You can't teach height, and you can't teach athleticism, so Jordan does have an advantage there, the key is whether or not he is willing to go the extra mile to become great. Eddy Curry has proven he is not willing to put in the incredible amount of work to become great. And thats the thing with these youngsters, you really don't know whats inside of these kids until they become professionals. That is what separates the good ones from the great ones. That inner drive to be the best you can be. Da f!uck was Isiah thinking when he traded for Eddy Curry?!?!?!?!?!? It was clear as day he didn't have that drive. F U ISIAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yea, I think when you have a guy that has displayed a questionable work ethic, then you don't give him big money , not until he proves he wants to be the best he can be, and has shown he is willing to work at being the best he can be... isiah saw curry, wanted curry and once isiah gets into his head a player he wants, he is willing to sell the farm to get that player.... Curry is what he is, and there is no changing that.. I just don't want to revisit the same thing with jordan and end up with eric Dampier Jr..... 
Well that is where due diligence comes into play. Isiah obviously didn't do a thorough background check on Curry. HUGE mistake. Like Dolan and Mills, who didn't do a thorough background check on Isiah before they handed that clueless perv the keys to the franchise.
Walsh and D'Antoni need to sit these potential draftees down and get into their heads to find out what makes them tick and to see if the mental toughness/inner drive and desire to be great is there. It's one thing for these draftees to say all the right things, but good gm's know how to dig deep and find the answers. This also applies to Rose and Beasley. Obviously they've got the skills/upside to be great players, but again, it all comes down to that inner drive to be great.
As for Jordan, who knows, maybe there were issues at college which caused him to disappear at times on the court. Maybe he wasn't sure what the coach wanted. Maybe the coach sucked. Maybe Jordan had an injury. Maybe his teammates sucked. Maybe he started off with a poor work ethic but stepped it up at the end of the season. Maybe he didn't work hard at all. Maybe he was a hard worker but a slow learner. Maybe he was trying to adapt to being 7 feet tall.
Now obviously there are a lot of reasons why players fall in the draft, but just because he disappeared on the court as a freshman in college, doesn't mean he doesn't have that inner desire to be great. Sometimes it just clicks and all comes together at a later date. This is what the good gm's need to figure out and most of the times you just don't know because it's difficult to really get inside another person's head. And that is why most of these guys need at least 3 years of college before entering the pro's. Not everyone, but most do.
