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5/20/2008  11:20 PM
of course you do.
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5/20/2008  11:21 PM
Posted by TMS:

in truth you really have no idea why you would oppose a kid like Gallinari as i see it... none of us know enough about him to say he'd be a horrible pick at #6, just like it's true in the reverse.

I have no opinion on DG personally at this point. I'm just going off what is being said about him now and feeling comfortable enough selecting him at 6. We have camps, workouts, and about a month to make some headway.
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5/20/2008  11:22 PM
Posted by TMS:

in truth you really have no idea why you would oppose a kid like Gallinari as i see it... none of us know enough about him to say he'd be a horrible pick at #6, just like it's true in the reverse.

Gallinari has bust written all over him.
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5/20/2008  11:23 PM
exactly... i'd be willing to take a shot at the kid if Walsh thinks he's a good bet to be a good NBA player... from what i read about him he sounds like he could do well playing for Mike D... i don't get the opposition to him at this point.
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5/20/2008  11:24 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TMS:

in truth you really have no idea why you would oppose a kid like Gallinari as i see it... none of us know enough about him to say he'd be a horrible pick at #6, just like it's true in the reverse.

Gallinari has bust written all over him.

please explain why you think so... every prospect has bust potential written all over them... i wanna know what you know that none of the rest of us do that makes you think he's an especially high risk bust prospect.
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5/20/2008  11:25 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TMS:

in truth you really have no idea why you would oppose a kid like Gallinari as i see it... none of us know enough about him to say he'd be a horrible pick at #6, just like it's true in the reverse.

Gallinari has bust written all over him.


If his early projection is "HE COULD BE BETTER THAN AB" then he's sleeping with BUST and I don't mean frontal. We'll see what happens I guess, but you know Antonio Davis, I mean Antonio Daniels is writing him love letters with promises of a long lasting relationship.
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5/20/2008  11:29 PM
Andrea Bargnani has definitely not shown himself to be #1 overall pick calibre yet, but he isn't a horrible young player either... it's only his second season in the NBA & he had double digit scoring averages both years... he's only 22 years old, can we wait a couple years at least before we pronounce him to be a bust?

& who cares what Jay Bilas says anyway? you just said yourself you hate player comparisons like that... why is it so disturbing to you that people would say this kid could be better than AB? i don't get it... shouldn't that be a good thing?
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5/20/2008  11:30 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TMS:

in truth you really have no idea why you would oppose a kid like Gallinari as i see it... none of us know enough about him to say he'd be a horrible pick at #6, just like it's true in the reverse.

Gallinari has bust written all over him.

please explain why you think so... every prospect has bust potential written all over them... i wanna know what you know that none of the rest of us do that makes you think he's an especially high risk bust prospect.

I already did. He's soft and doesn't play defense.
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5/20/2008  11:34 PM
OK isles... i could just as easily say "he's awesome & plays tremendous offense", but unless i can offer some legitimate proof that i know what i'm talking about it's pretty worthless commentary... you still haven't told us how you know that he's soft & plays no D... are you going off scouting reports like the rest of us?
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5/20/2008  11:37 PM
Posted by TMS:

OK isles... i could just as easily say "he's awesome & plays tremendous offense", but unless i can offer some legitimate proof that i know what i'm talking about it's pretty worthless commentary... you still haven't told us how you know that he's soft & plays no D... are you going off scouting reports like the rest of us?

Trust me, I know.
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5/20/2008  11:39 PM
i don't believe you.
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5/20/2008  11:41 PM
Posted by TMS:

i don't believe you.

I'm hurt. This is me we're talking about. When have I ever steered you wrong?

Do I have to remind you about Isiah again?
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5/20/2008  11:46 PM
you had legitimate proof to offer up on Isiah... his horrible job of managing the CBA is something u can point directly to.

i just want some solid proof to back up your claims here other than a "trust me bro"
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5/20/2008  11:51 PM
Posted by TMS:

you had legitimate proof to offer up on Isiah... his horrible job of managing the CBA is something u can point directly to.

i just want some solid proof to back up your claims here other than a "trust me bro"

For gosh sakes, he's a Euro, what other proof do you need?!?
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5/20/2008  11:57 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TMS:

you had legitimate proof to offer up on Isiah... his horrible job of managing the CBA is something u can point directly to.

i just want some solid proof to back up your claims here other than a "trust me bro"

For gosh sakes, he's a Euro, what other proof do you need?!?

Dirk, Manu, Parker, Gasol, Calderon, Schrempf & Petrovic didn't seem to have a problem performing well at the NBA level... all Euros... still waiting on some better empirical reasoning for you to bash this prospect other than a "trust me" & "he's a Euro" bro.
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5/21/2008  12:01 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TMS:

you had legitimate proof to offer up on Isiah... his horrible job of managing the CBA is something u can point directly to.

i just want some solid proof to back up your claims here other than a "trust me bro"

For gosh sakes, he's a Euro, what other proof do you need?!?

Dirk, Manu, Parker, Gasol, Calderon, Schrempf & Petrovic didn't seem to have a problem performing well at the NBA level... all Euros... still waiting on some better empirical reasoning for you to bash this prospect other than a "trust me" & "he's a Euro" bro.

Gallinari is a finesse player and he's not a great shooter from the outside. Those are facts. As empirical as it can get. Plus he's Italian. Big men from Italy are always soft and can't play defense. Look it up.

Oh, and Manu is Argentinian. That's empirical too.
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5/21/2008  12:28 AM
If we were to draft Gallinari does that mean that Wilson Chandler should get traded?

Maybe we could swing a deal for Sessions and future protected pick. I really like Chandler though I think he could be a very good player in the next few yrs.
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5/21/2008  12:28 AM
I don't care who we draft as long as Zach Randolph, Eddy Curry, Stephon Marbury, and Jerome James are not wearing Knicks uniforms next season. That to me is comparable to winning the lottery.
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5/21/2008  1:26 AM
Posted by majorleads:

I don't care who we draft as long as Zach Randolph, Eddy Curry, Stephon Marbury, and Jerome James are not wearing Knicks uniforms next season. That to me is comparable to winning the lottery.

I would like one player but for the most part this is Ditto for me. Please get rid of these Albatross players and how you left off Crawford is puzzling.
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5/21/2008  5:39 AM
Did someone steel your computer, Isles? You usually make very solid arguments. Now you're just making blank statements.
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