Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

People are acting like Marion, Amare, & Diaw were all world shooters. Marion isn't a good shooter he is an above average shooter. Amare is an above average shooter. Diaw is a below average shooter.

Lee has 4 skills that make him good for D'Antoni's system in his own way and it will be very visible come camp. Strong rebounder, he dishes out EXCELLENT outlet passes to push the tempo, pretty athletic & runs the floor well, Solid finisher.

Amare was basically playing the center position and though he isn't the world's greatest shooter he does have a solid outside J. Diaw' skills with ball-handling, passing, and some shooting made him solid contributor, and Marion has the ugliest looking jumper in the game but it still has nearly a 50% fg percentage.

I wouldn't believe most of the stuff being written in the paper until if and when any actions are taking but get serious about Lee he isn't a shooter, decent passer (he's averaged a whopping 1 assist) and still has some ways to go on his outside shot. So I think that its important to remember that no one on this roster is untouchable and nor should they be.

Who said anyone on the roster was untouchable? Lee is an excellent outlet passer to start a fast break after a rebound. That doesn't mean that he is going to end up with a bunch of assist. He doesn't touch the ball enough offensively to have a lot of assist. But it does mean that its a great attribute to have in D'Antoni's system.

I didn't say that Lee did have an jumper or was even going to improve on it. The point is that Marion, Stoud, Diaw were the players they were in D'Antoni's system not because of there shooting ability but because of there physical abilities and skill sets. So the shooting part to me is overblown. Lee can easily find a big role in D'Antoni's system with his own skill set, hustle, good teammate, high IQ even though he can't shoot. Much like Boris Diaw.

If Lee was moved it wouldn't be because of his shooting abilty but because resigning him would effect Walsh plans to go after Lebron.

No offense but you act as though outlet passing is some kind of special ability its not and every post player should be able to throw a good outlet pass. Thats an essential thing to being a post player.

Where did Lebron come into the mix? If this is Walsh's big plans for the future hoping to ensnare Lebron away from Clev and whoever else bids on him, he's going to be in for a rude awakening like many Knick fans.

No offense but you took a small comment about his outlet passing which is again EXCELLENT and turned it into how many assist he gets per game. Every big should be able to throw a good outlet pass. But most bigs don't look to do so consistantly. Which is probably why Lee's outlet passing stands out. I know im not the only one because ive seen people post commenting on Lee's outlet passing on this board. And is again a good attribute to have in D'Antoni's uptempo game.

Outlet passing a quality or not, his rebounding, hustle, IQ, low turn over rate, 82%ft shooting can't be question.

Lebron has been in the mix ever since Walsh stated he was trying to get cap flexibility by 2010 when Lebron is to become a free agent. So I guess we are in for a rude awakening.

Why do people try to make something out of nothing when it comes to Lee just stick to the rebounding, hustle, good free-throw shooter, and you'll be alright. But whats next Lee has a great running form, Lee dunks the ball better then anyone on the team, lol.

Explain this one to me if the Knicks clear out their cap and suck for the next 2 years what would Lebron's motivation exactly be again for coming to the Knicks? If it was this summer then I would be all for it but I think its foolish for Knick fans to have this dream when the Knicks have far more pressing issues right now. A lot could happen so I think a more prudent approach is taking it one step at a time and trying to put together a competitive team instead hoping for Superman to come save the day.

Posted by franco12:

Posted by VDesai:

Its an opinion article written by one of the stupidest writers that covers the Knicks. So what exactly is it worth?

agreed!

D'Antoni said he want's players who can make quick and smart decisions with the ball. Using that definition, I think its Lee is a better fit for D'Antoni than Crawford.

Lee couldn't hit FT's his first year- now he shoots 80%.

Towards the end of last season, he started to show his 12 ft jumper. I can see Lee developing a 3pt shot in a few years- he works hard, and he gets better.

Posted by King1:

I think it will be interesting what you do with Lee. Do you pay him 45 million and get 16-12 from the four position the next 5 years? DO you trade him for a draft pick which would be retarded because you have no idea what your getting with a draft pick and you know what you have with him. Only 8 players in his draft are having a better career and about 5 from last year. Do you trade him with a bad contract and start all over?

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

People are acting like Marion, Amare, & Diaw were all world shooters. Marion isn't a good shooter he is an above average shooter. Amare is an above average shooter. Diaw is a below average shooter.

Lee has 4 skills that make him good for D'Antoni's system in his own way and it will be very visible come camp. Strong rebounder, he dishes out EXCELLENT outlet passes to push the tempo, pretty athletic & runs the floor well, Solid finisher.

Amare was basically playing the center position and though he isn't the world's greatest shooter he does have a solid outside J. Diaw' skills with ball-handling, passing, and some shooting made him solid contributor, and Marion has the ugliest looking jumper in the game but it still has nearly a 50% fg percentage.

I wouldn't believe most of the stuff being written in the paper until if and when any actions are taking but get serious about Lee he isn't a shooter, decent passer (he's averaged a whopping 1 assist) and still has some ways to go on his outside shot. So I think that its important to remember that no one on this roster is untouchable and nor should they be.

Who said anyone on the roster was untouchable? Lee is an excellent outlet passer to start a fast break after a rebound. That doesn't mean that he is going to end up with a bunch of assist. He doesn't touch the ball enough offensively to have a lot of assist. But it does mean that its a great attribute to have in D'Antoni's system.

I didn't say that Lee did have an jumper or was even going to improve on it. The point is that Marion, Stoud, Diaw were the players they were in D'Antoni's system not because of there shooting ability but because of there physical abilities and skill sets. So the shooting part to me is overblown. Lee can easily find a big role in D'Antoni's system with his own skill set, hustle, good teammate, high IQ even though he can't shoot. Much like Boris Diaw.

If Lee was moved it wouldn't be because of his shooting abilty but because resigning him would effect Walsh plans to go after Lebron.

No offense but you act as though outlet passing is some kind of special ability its not and every post player should be able to throw a good outlet pass. Thats an essential thing to being a post player.

Where did Lebron come into the mix? If this is Walsh's big plans for the future hoping to ensnare Lebron away from Clev and whoever else bids on him, he's going to be in for a rude awakening like many Knick fans.

No offense but you took a small comment about his outlet passing which is again EXCELLENT and turned it into how many assist he gets per game. Every big should be able to throw a good outlet pass. But most bigs don't look to do so consistantly. Which is probably why Lee's outlet passing stands out. I know im not the only one because ive seen people post commenting on Lee's outlet passing on this board. And is again a good attribute to have in D'Antoni's uptempo game.

Outlet passing a quality or not, his rebounding, hustle, IQ, low turn over rate, 82%ft shooting can't be question.

Lebron has been in the mix ever since Walsh stated he was trying to get cap flexibility by 2010 when Lebron is to become a free agent. So I guess we are in for a rude awakening.

Why do people try to make something out of nothing when it comes to Lee just stick to the rebounding, hustle, good free-throw shooter, and you'll be alright. But whats next Lee has a great running form, Lee dunks the ball better then anyone on the team, lol.

Explain this one to me if the Knicks clear out their cap and suck for the next 2 years what would Lebron's motivation exactly be again for coming to the Knicks? If it was this summer then I would be all for it but I think its foolish for Knick fans to have this dream when the Knicks have far more pressing issues right now. A lot could happen so I think a more prudent approach is taking it one step at a time and trying to put together a competitive team instead hoping for Superman to come save the day.

Lee's outlet passing was just one of the little things that he does that I believe goes along with D'Antoni's style. Why you took exception to it I don't know. Its not like I said he was going to end up like Steve Nash running the fast break. I never said he was a superstar, untouchable, that he was going to become Amare now with D'Antoni. Only that he has some skills and does some little things that leads me to believe that he will find a role in D'Antoni's system even though he can't shoot. Like rebounding, outlet passing, running the floor, finishing, etc.. So if anyone was making something out of nothing regarding Lee, it was you. But I don't hold grudges

As for Lebron I can only comment by what Walsh is saying. I don't know if I agree or not. If I agree or not will strongly be based on his execution of this plan. Truthfully all I can ask for at this point is a plan and a great execution of that plan. Say we do end up going after Lebron and he doesn't sign. We are left with 20mil in cap space and lotto picks. I don't see that as a horrible consolation.

What route or plan are we missing out on if we do this? As you stated nobody is untouchable. So what players would kill our championship hopes by moving there contracts? What longterm contracts are attractive for us that we would want to take back in trades which would bring us to championship level? Curry? Randolph? Jefferies? Crawford? What mid level free agents are out there that we should sign that would bring us to new levels? Jr Smith?

I think one of the reasons D'Antoni was sought after by Walsh was so that we could run, compete, look entertaining & enticing for a guy like Lebron as well as other gms while he turns over the roster. I can't complain to much about the Idea because going after Lebron is the closest route I can picture in terms of going after a championship.

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by djsunyc:

lee for charlie v?

thanks but no thanks to Powder

Posted by bitty41:

Why because he played for Toronto this guy is underachiever with a very suspect work ethic I just don't see the interest in the guy.

Posted by NYKBocker:

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by bitty41:

Why because he played for Toronto this guy is underachiever with a very suspect work ethic I just don't see the interest in the guy.

not at all, charlie v is tim thomas redux, but it's curious why alot of articles after the donnie walsh hiring are not portraying david lee in the best light.

Trying to prepare us for when they trade away DLee as a sweetner for our garbage? To soften the blow?

looks like it. or i could even see them trying to lessen his market value so they don't have to pay as much. i could also see some rival gm's leaking these bogus rumors to lessen his trade value as well.