LOL. I'm still buggin over the constant Rose = Marbury comparisons. Ya live and ya learn I guess.

Posted by codeunknown:

I'll say it again. Mayo should go #2.

he looked really damn impressive in that video

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by Uptown:

Posted by TrueBlue:

The point can't stressed enough Rose isn't a point guard. I'd say Paul's main strength is ball handling. He handles the ball like it's a yo-yo. Rose doesn't even have 50% of Paul's ball handling skill. Paul can go either way at 100%, Rose forget about him going left. There's no way Rose handles a ball for 35min/gm and proves to be effective as a point guard. Whoever drafts him better make him play a Monta Ellis role or play 2 gaurd.

So since this guy can windmill dunk, and is a super athlete, he can't be a pg? He may not a throw-back pg in the molds of a John Stockton, but he fits into the new generation of athletic lead guards. Watching this clip, he reminds me of a more athletic version of Marbury.

It has been proven in this league that you can win, and win big with lead guards running the show:

Tony Parker
Gary Payton
Allen Iverson
Mike Bibby
Jason Terry (ran the point the yr the Mavs went to the finals)
Sam Cassell
Rajon Rando

Just to name a few.

Yeah Rose=Marbury.... I came to this conclusion a while back and saw fits of rage when I made the comparison.

Rose is a little more athletic, and a little bigger than Marb, but there games are very similar. I know most people on here would cringe at the thought of Rose being compared to Marbury, but I think its a compliment. Marbury is one of the most physically gifted PG's to enter the league in a long time. The problem is, Marburys gifts are below the neck and the curse is above the neck. Hopefully, Rose wont be infected with by the same curse. So far, he seems to have a good head on his shoulders.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by Uptown:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by Uptown:

Posted by TrueBlue:

The point can't stressed enough Rose isn't a point guard. I'd say Paul's main strength is ball handling. He handles the ball like it's a yo-yo. Rose doesn't even have 50% of Paul's ball handling skill. Paul can go either way at 100%, Rose forget about him going left. There's no way Rose handles a ball for 35min/gm and proves to be effective as a point guard. Whoever drafts him better make him play a Monta Ellis role or play 2 gaurd.

So since this guy can windmill dunk, and is a super athlete, he can't be a pg? He may not a throw-back pg in the molds of a John Stockton, but he fits into the new generation of athletic lead guards. Watching this clip, he reminds me of a more athletic version of Marbury.

It has been proven in this league that you can win, and win big with lead guards running the show:

Tony Parker
Gary Payton
Allen Iverson
Mike Bibby
Jason Terry (ran the point the yr the Mavs went to the finals)
Sam Cassell
Rajon Rando

Just to name a few.

Yeah Rose=Marbury.... I came to this conclusion a while back and saw fits of rage when I made the comparison.

Rose is a little more athletic, and a little bigger than Marb, but there games are very similar. I know most people on here would cringe at the thought of Rose being compared to Marbury, but I think its a compliment. Marbury is one of the most physically gifted PG's to enter the league in a long time. The problem is, Marburys gifts are below the neck and the curse is above the neck. Hopefully, Rose wont be infected with by the same curse. So far, he seems to have a good head on his shoulders.

Yes and No you're saying almost word for word what I said. Hey where were about a month ago?

In terms of basketball talent it's not a bad thing per say because as you said Rose and Marbury had/have special talents at the early stage of their careers. Where it could become a problem is having a ball dominant guard trying to go for his while keeping the team involved and building around such player. I don't like the Head Down Bull in a China Cabinet play coming from a supposed point guard but nevertheless Rose's athleticism will be tough to deal with as was Marbury's early in his career.

I see what you're saying but I think it can work depending on the team you put around him. While not as athletic, Tony Parker is a lead guard who often drops his head and bulls his way to the basket. Parker has never averaged more than 6 ast per. I think its essential to have other good ball movers on the roster along with Rose. But his style of play can definitely translate into winning.

Posted by TrueBlue:

The point can't stressed enough Rose isn't a point guard. I'd say Paul's main strength is ball handling. He handles the ball like it's a yo-yo. Rose doesn't even have 50% of Paul's ball handling skill. Paul can go either way at 100%, Rose forget about him going left. There's no way Rose handles a ball for 35min/gm and proves to be effective as a point guard. Whoever drafts him better make him play a Monta Ellis role or play 2 gaurd.

Clearly a SG, with some pretty good ball movement.

One of the things that makes this draft so interesting is that there are four tweener guards who will be early selections - Rose, Mayo, Bayless and Gordon. Of the four, Rose is the best at running an offense followed by Bayless. IMO Mayo and Gordon have no hope at playing the point.

All four are very athletic. Mayo and Bayless are the best outside shooters, although you can make the argument that Gordon's bad wrist hurt his shooting. Bayless and Gordon go to the line more than the others. I'd say that Rose and Mayo are the best defenders, but all are good defensively for their age and experience level.

The reason why there is so much disagreement on this site between these players is that they are all good prospects and are pretty close in talent. I think you have to take Rose over the others because he can play the point. After that, I'm not sure. A lot depends on how you view the 'intangibles'.

Derrick Rose????






To me it is pretty much a preview...... I'm not getting the fan fare about this guy being a point guard or a franchise player.

[Edited by - anji on 04-25-2008 11:18 AM]

Wow... I can not believe that Derrick Rose gets absolutely no love from this forum. I been on this guy since last August when I said he would be a top pick in the draft, if he decided to come out. Very few prospects coming into the draft have the absolute raw talent and athleticism that Rose has. Everyone wants to say he's a SG and he can't play PG. You are going to be absolutely eating your words.

For the 1000th time, Rose played in an offense at Memphis that was not reliant on a PG and the player playing the PG position is just another guard out on the floor. The objective of the offense is the run and gun and spread the ball around until someone has an open look, they don't throw the ball downlow EVER, so theres never post play either. Rose knew this coming in, but also wanted to win a NCAA championship and felt that Memphis provided him with the best opportunity to play and win that national championship, even if it hurt his overall numbers, turns out he made the right decision. I've seen Memphis play a ton of times this year and there there were times where Coach Cal gave Rose the opportunity to bring the ball up and run an offense and he did a great job, he looked like All-Star PG int he making.

Every single one of you guys who is sleeping on him is going to eat your words, I guarantee it. I've always wanted the Knicks to draft this guy, but I want him even more now so we can all watch him every game of the year and then I can shove back in your faces when he's a top PG in this league.