Posted by fishmike:

Posted by Bippity10:

I personally don't think he will have say in the personnel decisions, but I also do not think it is wise on Donnie's part to keep the guy around. I just don't trust the man

Lets say in his 'advisery role' Isiah begins to mutter behind DW's back, or have a bad influence on players, leaks info, whatever. DW will want him gone and will fire him. At that point one of two things happens. Isiah is fired, end of story. Or DW quits and take his choice of about 10 jobs in the NBA. Maybe he goes and works for Stern. Dont be suprised if Stern stepped in before that happened and somehow intervened himself. He has an active interest in the team with the highest value and largest media market winning more games.

I just dont see a scenario where Isiah somehow impacts DW's ability to execute whatever plan he has in store. Does anyone think DW will let that happen?

My concern again comes down to seeing the Knicks become another short term windfall for another player/coach/GM/VP. Walsh has the resume to withstand and squash any lunacy IT could bring about(not even suggesting he will bring about lunacy, just can't ignore the possibility), but I thought LB had a similar resume. I just don't want to see another circus, where another good man is undermined, decides to quit and walks away with a fortune, all the while Isiah is going, "see it wasn't my fault, Donnie couldn't fix it either".

I've learned from my past that if you want to fix a broken program you eliminate all elements that have the power to destroy it again. Doesn't mean they will. Doesn't mean you can't squash it. But why leave the possibility???

Again, to me, the chance is Isiah is just being given a dignified exit. That's fine with me. That's the way it should be. We should be changing as an organization away from leading guys out with handcuffs etc. But it's also time to close down the circus completely and get going to the business of trying to win games(something Isiah never was about). He is currently a distraction. He will be one for a while. Why not nip it in the bud. Now if this naturally occurs through this demotion than that's a good thing. But I personally don't operate by letting nature take it's course. I beleive in ridding the problem entirely. Only time will tell if Dolan/Walsh's plan is the right way.

[Edited by - bippity10 on 21-04-2008 4:21 PM]



[Edited by - bippity10 on 21-04-2008 4:23 PM]

I think it's smart to keep Isiah around. Then when Dolan fires Walsh and has him escorted from the garden in shackles, Zeke can step in and resume his rightful spot as GM/Coach for life.

Posted by BasketballJones:

Posted by Bippity10:

Again, to me, the chance is Isiah is just being given a dignified exit. That's fine with me. That's the way it should be. We should be changing as an organization away from leading guys out with handcuffs etc. But it's also time to close down the circus completely and get going to the business of trying to win games.
[Edited by - bippity10 on 21-04-2008 4:23 PM]

Whaddaya got against the circus dude?

[Edited by - basketballjones on 04-21-2008 16:29]

I'm afraid of clowns

Posted by islesfan:
Dolan has already prevented Walsh from firing Isiah, why do you think that couldn't happen again?

Thats total speculation on your part. What makes you think Isiah's non-firing is Dolan's doing? Walsh has a relationship with Isiah from the Pacer days. Walsh hired Isiah who did a decent job with that team. In the end he deserved to be removed because he had a talented team that underperformed in the playoffs. Before that however he took a very young team that many thought would be in a rebuilding stage to the playoffs.

I am NOT saying Isiah was a good coach for the Pacers, but he wasnt terribl either, and who when you factor in that all the players loved Isiah on that team Isiah probably had a very good working relationship with DW for those years. Enter Bird and Isiah is history.

DW is a class guy and prob has loyalties of his own. What does he gain by firing Isiah? Love from UK posters? DW is a good man with a loooong history of being a stand up class guy. How about a little wait and see on this situation before we say DW is an idiot or a puppet based on information we are not privy to anyway?

Posted by Vmart:

Isiah is secretly going to run the Knicks.

IF this is the case, doesn't it mean it's not a secret anymore?

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by Vmart:

Isiah is secretly going to run the Knicks.

IF this is the case, doesn't it mean it's not a secret anymore?

Do you have something new to tell us?

Posted by Ira:

My guess is that Isaiah will have significant input on the draft, but be out of the loop on trades.

He is banned from MSG and talking to the staff but he can talk to Dolan. I don't think he will have any input in the draft.