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JrZyHuStLa
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4/18/2008  7:09 PM
Fuck this franchise.

I'm a Laker fan now.
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4/18/2008  7:13 PM
Posted by nysportsfan11:

He has no title. He has no subordinates. He reports directly to Donnie Walsh, but has nothing to report because he has no job. What does it matter to Knicks fans? He has nothing to do with the team. He won't be allowed to speak about the Knicks to the media. He's collecting the rest of his check. Nothing more, nothing less. Emasculated, but rich and with a full dental plan. He has about as much to do with the Knicks now as Anucha.

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4/18/2008  7:13 PM
Fuck Donnie Walsh, **** Isiah, **** Steve Mills, and Fuck that moron Dolan.

Fuck the God Damned Knicks.
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4/18/2008  7:21 PM
I think this really sucks, I'd much rather Isiah be totally gone.

I'm going to see what kind of moves Donnie first makes, once those moves are made, we'll know whose in charge.
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4/18/2008  7:23 PM
When asked whether Knicks owner Jim Dolan had any say in the decision to reassign Thomas, Walsh said, "He absolutely had no input on it. This was entirely my decision."

Walsh refused to qualify Thomas' role as that of a 'personal consultant,' saying, "I think I'm closer to Isiah than that ... This won't be just a 'sometimes' type of thing ... We will definitely have a relationship that may be more intensive than it has been lately."

Pathetic.
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4/18/2008  7:34 PM
Posted by nysportsfan11:

He has no title. He has no subordinates. He reports directly to Donnie Walsh, but has nothing to report because he has no job. What does it matter to Knicks fans? He has nothing to do with the team. He won't be allowed to speak about the Knicks to the media. He's collecting the rest of his check. Nothing more, nothing less. Emasculated, but rich and with a full dental plan. He has about as much to do with the Knicks now as Anucha.

He may report directly to Walsh but he can talk to Dolan about whatever he wants. So if Walsh is shaky as a GM Dolan will be like....... "I SAY UGH go ahead and try this again".
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4/18/2008  7:58 PM
Posted by nysportsfan11:

He has no title. He has no subordinates. He reports directly to Donnie Walsh, but has nothing to report because he has no job. What does it matter to Knicks fans? He has nothing to do with the team. He won't be allowed to speak about the Knicks to the media. He's collecting the rest of his check. Nothing more, nothing less. Emasculated, but rich and with a full dental plan. He has about as much to do with the Knicks now as Anucha.

That's incredibly naive.

There's no good reason to keep him. Not one. He gets his money one way or the other, so who cares if he does it someplace else? The fact is, Isiah still has Dolan's ear and because of that he has influence on this organization. i.e. nothing has changed.
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4/18/2008  8:23 PM
its bad enough chaney, wilkens, browne & brown got away. why should dolan fire zeke just to hand over 18 mil.
good move on jim's part
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4/18/2008  8:31 PM
Posted by Bobby:

its bad enough chaney, wilkens, browne & brown got away. why should dolan fire zeke just to hand over 18 mil.
good move on jim's part

Umm, because Isiah gets the money anyway?

Why do people think that Isiah would be getting compensated any differently whether he was fired or kept?
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4/18/2008  8:45 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by nysportsfan11:

He has no title. He has no subordinates. He reports directly to Donnie Walsh, but has nothing to report because he has no job. What does it matter to Knicks fans? He has nothing to do with the team. He won't be allowed to speak about the Knicks to the media. He's collecting the rest of his check. Nothing more, nothing less. Emasculated, but rich and with a full dental plan. He has about as much to do with the Knicks now as Anucha.

That's incredibly naive.

There's no good reason to keep him. Not one. He gets his money one way or the other, so who cares if he does it someplace else? The fact is, Isiah still has Dolan's ear and because of that he has influence on this organization. i.e. nothing has changed.

i think your response to original is incredibly naive.
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4/18/2008  9:00 PM
Posted by nysportsfan11:

He has no title. He has no subordinates. He reports directly to Donnie Walsh, but has nothing to report because he has no job. What does it matter to Knicks fans? He has nothing to do with the team. He won't be allowed to speak about the Knicks to the media. He's collecting the rest of his check. Nothing more, nothing less. Emasculated, but rich and with a full dental plan. He has about as much to do with the Knicks now as Anucha.

I hope this is true. The best case scenerio now, is that Isiah was only retained so that they wouldn't have to swallow the rest of his contract (which btw he never really earned in the first place.)
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4/18/2008  9:02 PM


I guess Donnie is just another puppet in the garden.
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4/18/2008  9:10 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Why keep this ******* in the organization?!? Can someone name a single good reason?!?

Donnie Walsh is a puppet. Nothing has changed. He's proven that he has no autonomy by retaining Isiah and he's proven that the media policy is status quo by making this announcement at 5pm on a Friday afternoon. Completely unprofessional.

So how long before Isiah starts sitting at games with Idiot Dolan? He's obviously still in very close to Dolan and there's no reason to believe that he doesn't have considerable power within the organization because of that. This is pathetic and nothing but another con job on Knicks fans everywhere.

Fuck this organization.

I completely agree.

Donnie is starting to show signs of 'idiocy'. MARK THESE WORDS: 'MISTAKE #1'! Now he's threatening to make Jackson a coach and King a GM. MF!!!

Even after Walsh was hired, isiah was allowed to seal our fate for the draft bid and Walsh fires him NOW??? After the damage was done? Something he could have prevented, fire isiah when he was hired and just ordered a tank for the rest of the season with an assistant? Truely mistake #1.

Get ready for more disappointment and misery for another several years. The dumb asses are on their way.

dolan is the real cancer and incurable.

I'll never trust this' team again.
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4/18/2008  9:16 PM
Posted by islesfan:

He's still involved very closely in the decision making process,

Walsh said it in his own words. He said he's going to keep in close touch with isiah and look to him for advice. That's the way I took it. Somebody here once said isiah will be here for thirty years. I don't think they realized how right they were.
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4/18/2008  9:17 PM
Posted by eViL:

I guess I made this for no ****ing reason...


Personally I'm tired of hoping.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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4/18/2008  9:17 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Bobby:

its bad enough chaney, wilkens, browne & brown got away. why should dolan fire zeke just to hand over 18 mil.
good move on jim's part

Umm, because Isiah gets the money anyway?

Why do people think that Isiah would be getting compensated any differently whether he was fired or kept?

Say Isiah were fired completely and he sued Dolan for pay. If Isiah took up employment anywhere else, it would decrease the amount of money Isiah could recover from MSG. Based on this, Dolan would have been smart to let Isiah go. However, Isiah might have a liquidated damages clause in his contract which would trigger a lump sum payment. In this case, Dolan would be smart to hold on to Isiah even if he played no role for the organization.
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4/18/2008  9:23 PM
I'm just as upset as everyone else about Isiah being retained. But WTF AM I SUPPOSED TO DO!? I'm just a fanatic. I have no control nor say in the daily operations of this franchise no matter how much intelligencia or total nonsense I post here about trades and the like. I can scream, stomp my foot, and drop F-bombs all over this forum, but it aint gonna change a that fact that I have no power. So unlike some of you, I can't just rip my heart out of my chest and turn my back on a franchise I have followed for 20+ years.

As much as I'm disgutsed by Isiah being retained, I know I will be watching come May ? when they anounce the order of the draft picks. I know I will have my fingers crossed and will pray the Knicks land the #1 or #2 pick. If this happens, Isiah will be pushed off the headlines of my mind and will fall back to page 2 or 3 while hopes of a good draft pick will tale over the front page of my mind.

Eventually, hopefully this team will follow the plan Walsh has stated he will unravel in terms of getting under the cap in order to sign a FA. At the end of the day, if he puts together a team that I can root for and love, then I wont concern myself with Isiah. Back in 88-89, when Mark Jackson was running the point, and Ewing was in the paint, and Pitino was manning the sidelines, at age 13, I had no ides who was in the front office and frankly I didn't care. But I did care about the product. If a similar product returns under the lowered cieling at MSG, I'll be there rooting.
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4/18/2008  9:30 PM
Come training camp all of you will be here rooting for the knicks, praying for the knicks and trying to bring back the....... wawwww back to the garden.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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4/18/2008  9:32 PM
Posted by eViL:

I don't think there's a sports franchise out there that knows how to alienate its fans better than the Knicks do.

You know, I was just reading about how the bulls fired their coach. They have an owner, a President, a GM and a coach. All separate people. They're now looking for a new coach.

Now I ask you folks: What is it about what I just said that strikes you the most?

Answer: It's a very normal firing, with a very in place staff and a very normal move to replace what they got rid of. Plain and simple. 'The mother of all no-brainersl.

There's no controversy in it. It's all normal. Life goes on and better luck next time. Keep trying until you find people to get it right.

It struck me as one of the most normal basketball articles out there and told me that the Knicks organization has no basics. No sound foundation to work from. It's all half assed and done in bad timing, one right after the other. God' I wished we had Checkettes back again.
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4/18/2008  9:34 PM
Posted by playa2:




IT'S LIKE THAT , AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS !

Kinda sounds like 'that's the way you want it to stay'?
I'll never trust this' team again.
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