I have three players I would take Mcgee Westbrook or Randolph. I'm not interested in any Euros and Eric Gordon is the same mold of player we already have--way to small for a true 2G and his defense was/is 10 notches behind Westbrook. I think when all is said and done the Knicks will take Randolph if we pick 6th from Donnie Walsh's past pick history. I put all three guys as equal right now--they all need development time and I do think that Mcgee has the highest ceiling.

Gallinari. I've never seen the guy play, but I'm very impressed with his stats. He's shooting 48% from the field, 87% from the line and 40% on 3s. He goes to the line quite a lot. He took 6.5 2 pt shots a game and 6.3 free throws.

Posted by Swishfm3:

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Here's my top ten:

1. Rose
2. Mayo
3. Beasley
4. Lopez
5. Bayless
6. Westbrook
7. Love
8. Gordon
9. Smith
10. Rush


[Edited by - supremecommander on 04-13-2008 1:21 PM]

wow...Tyler Hansbrough gets NO LOVE on this site.

and no DJ Augustine? Rose had a great Tournament...but Augustine was the BEST PG in the country all season.

V pretty much hit all the points I could make in response...

If you look at my past posts, I was actually I big-time supporter of DJ Augustine. After watching him in the tournament though, I really want no part of him. Augustine's lack of both size and athleticism was always a concern. In the tournament, he didn't have one game where I was like "HOLY SHIT, AUGUSTINE REALLY IS AWESOME!" He dropped from my top 10 to a guy I don't really see doing too too much in the pros. I doubt he'll be as valuable as even Jameer Nelson, another small point that fell in the draft for similar reasons.

As for Hansborough, consider me one of the guys that thinks he gets overvalued because he's white (and I'm white). Sure, he hustles, has intensity, and takes charges... that hardly screams "lotto pick" to me. He's small for a post player and doesn't have the wingspan to compensate. To me, he's the poor man's Joakim Noah that benefited from a great supporting cast.

augustine got showed up by rose in the elite 8, i think westbrook is a better option than he is -- he's taller and more athletic.

i don't see how hansbrough would help the knicks or many NBA teams. he got the ball force fed to him at NC and seems to be a classic college post player. i mean, even sweetney blocked shots at gtown, hansbrough had like 7 blocks a season or something, the guy is just not that athletic and his skill set is trying hard and forcing contact, which won't work in the NBA where every defender he faces will be bigger/stronger. he's only 6'7" or maybe 6'8" with short arms and not very good jumping ability, don't see how that translates.

briggs, how can you say "i'm not interested in any euros"? almost every team in the western conf. has a contributing euro, and the raptors and cavs both rely on euros. if gallinari can score from all over at 6'10", i'm very interested in him. i haven't seen him play but if he's legit, why not?

Posted by BigSm00th:

augustine got showed up by rose in the elite 8, i think westbrook is a better option than he is -- he's taller and more athletic.

i don't see how hansbrough would help the knicks or many NBA teams. he got the ball force fed to him at NC and seems to be a classic college post player. i mean, even sweetney blocked shots at gtown, hansbrough had like 7 blocks a season or something, the guy is just not that athletic and his skill set is trying hard and forcing contact, which won't work in the NBA where every defender he faces will be bigger/stronger. he's only 6'7" or maybe 6'8" with short arms and not very good jumping ability, don't see how that translates.

briggs, how can you say "i'm not interested in any euros"? almost every team in the western conf. has a contributing euro, and the raptors and cavs both rely on euros. if gallinari can score from all over at 6'10", i'm very interested in him. i haven't seen him play but if he's legit, why not?

Two words Boston Nachbar.

I'd take westbrook...i've seen most of UCLA's games this year and I think he can be a really special player (he needs to get stronger though). Mcgee and randolph are intriguing but we're not in a position to take a chance on a project that hasn't shown much since we traded our future picks away. i would take westbrook and give him minutes next year to see what he can do. the good thing about westbrook is he's 6'4 so if he cant play point (i think he can, but if he cant) then he wont be too short to play the 2...on top of that he has the potential to be a great defender, and we need defenders more than anything

Posted by nyballer:

I'd take westbrook...i've seen most of UCLA's games this year and I think he can be a really special player (he needs to get stronger though). Mcgee and randolph are intriguing but we're not in a position to take a chance on a project that hasn't shown much since we traded our future picks away. i would take westbrook and give him minutes next year to see what he can do. the good thing about westbrook is he's 6'4 so if he cant play point (i think he can, but if he cant) then he wont be too short to play the 2...on top of that he has the potential to be a great defender, and we need defenders more than anything

The one thing about Westbrook is he is an easy sell. No one would be upset with the pick and he is an exciting player--very easy to market--go check out youtube---he plays in a very TOUGH program and his athletic ability is similar to shawn marion a few inches shorter--ever catch him dunk without a running start --he just has unusual hops and i think if you put that package together with his defense--it might be a no-brainer pick. That being said I want the Knicks to be open-minded about who they think will project as the best player down the road. It would be brutal not giving a fair chance to a 7-1 player who ends up 20-10-3 in 3 years.

Posted by nyballer:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by nyballer:

I'd take westbrook...i've seen most of UCLA's games this year and I think he can be a really special player (he needs to get stronger though). Mcgee and randolph are intriguing but we're not in a position to take a chance on a project that hasn't shown much since we traded our future picks away. i would take westbrook and give him minutes next year to see what he can do. the good thing about westbrook is he's 6'4 so if he cant play point (i think he can, but if he cant) then he wont be too short to play the 2...on top of that he has the potential to be a great defender, and we need defenders more than anything

The one thing about Westbrook is he is an easy sell. No one would be upset with the pick and he is an exciting player--very easy to market--go check out youtube---he plays in a very TOUGH program and his athletic ability is similar to shawn marion a few inches shorter--ever catch him dunk without a running start --he just has unusual hops and i think if you put that package together with his defense--it might be a no-brainer pick. That being said I want the Knicks to be open-minded about who they think will project as the best player down the road. It would be brutal not giving a fair chance to a 7-1 player who ends up 20-10-3 in 3 years.

I agree - but you have to look at realistic upside and downside of each of these players - westbrook has a good shot of being a top 10 guard in the league, and worst case scenario I think he will be a starter (maybe in the crawford mold). Guys like Mcgee and randolph have great upside but not much higher than westbrook, and we've seen so many big men from mediocre conferences (and the SEC was pretty mediocre this year) come into the NBA and not amount to anything. If we were talking kevin love vs. randolph/mcgee then it's a totally different story, but westbrook has a very high ceiling too.

I hear you. I don't think a poster in here would be upset with the pick and that would be a nice change for the Knicks organization as a whole.

Posted by crzymdups:

6 - Anthony Randolph

crz you are not wrong with that pick
Maybe the Knicks find another pick and maybe the Knicks just take Randolph---I like 3 guys in a way = if we do stay at 5-6 so there is less likely to be dissapointed. each of randolph westbrook and randolph would bring something we dont have. Im not interested in bayless or gordon because of our make up and Im not taking a euro this high unless he is Yao Mings brother.