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Mark Jackson Emerging As Favorite To Replace Isiah As Coach?
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4/5/2008  10:03 AM
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I want Action Jackson as coach. Next year is a throw away year anyways. Let him get his feet wet right away. I am also interested in Greg Anthony as the GM and Patrick Ewing and Clyde in the coaching staff.

Yup..All Knicks all the time!

I"m sorry but names like Jackson, Ewing and Greg Anthony being mentioned as our development staff?!?!?

Gotta be a belated April Fools joke. I suppose if I had to, I'd choose Jackson of the three for coach. But that's only if I had' to.


These guys, like all coaches before them, have to get a start somewhere. Why not here where they have NY ties? If Walsh believes Jackson is up for the job, I have to give him the benefit of the doubt because of his track record. Bird and Isiah did a deceant job under Walsh's watch as first time coaches. For the record, Tom Thibedeaux (sp) would be my first option.
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4/5/2008  10:18 AM
If Mark Jackson wants to coach, why isn't he coaching? Why doesn't he have already have an assistant coaching job? Why should the Knicks "experiment" with the coaching position. Who the **** cares if he's from New York? Haven't we learned that lesson already?

Stephon Marbury is from New York
Tim Thomas is from New York
Lenny Wilkins is from New York
Larry Brown is from New York
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4/5/2008  11:01 AM
BJ - you just listed two hall of fame coaches and two random basketball players to reinforce your opinion. Stephon Marbury and Tim Thomas are not coaching material.

Mark Jackson is..

He would not be an experiment. Unless you consider Yogi Berra or Joe Torre's first managerial jobs an experiment
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4/5/2008  11:03 AM
Comon Basketball Jones, "You're better than that" !

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4/5/2008  12:42 PM
I have no idea what kind of coach Mark Jackson might be. He could be great, but he's untested as a coach. Is that where we're at right now?

When Isiah brought Stephon, Lenny & Larry in, he made a big point about them being from New York. What did that get us? Being from New York is irrelevant so far as making a positive impact on the Knicks IMO. It may even be a detriment.
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4/5/2008  1:16 PM
BJ - you are speaking as if being from New York is the primary criteria. If anyone hyped the return of Marbury, Brown or Lenny it was the NY media that hailed the return of the beloved sons of the city. Donnie Walsh's New York heritage are already pointed to as a plus by the press, despite the fact he's been iin Indiana for nearly a quarter century.

Being from New York is in NO WAY irrelevant. Beyond his extensive basketball resume, Jackson understands the unique demands of the city, the politics of 2 Penn Plaza, the fan expectations inside The Garden and he knows the Subway stops.

How is any of that a detriment?
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4/5/2008  2:06 PM
I want a strong defensive coach with a smart offensive assistant. if Tom Thibadeaux (however he spells his name)is a strong SOB with the players I would love him to bring in Jackson to run the O. We lose because of the (among other things) a lack of defensive commitment. Pitino (who's not coming here) ran a helter skelter fast break offense but his team played defense with the scheme.

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4/5/2008  2:09 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:

I have no idea what kind of coach Mark Jackson might be. He could be great, but he's untested as a coach. Is that where we're at right now?

When Isiah brought Stephon, Lenny & Larry in, he made a big point about them being from New York. What did that get us? Being from New York is irrelevant so far as making a positive impact on the Knicks IMO. It may even be a detriment.

Show love to Mark Jackson fool!



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4/5/2008  2:31 PM
I gottan agree with BasketballJones. Mark Jackson should put in work as an assistant coach for a full yr before he were to become our head coach if we are serious about hiring him.

I would promote Herb Williams to head coach and have Mark Jackson as assistant coach for next season.
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4/5/2008  2:58 PM
Jackson doesn't have to put in a year as an assistant if he wants the job. He will have opportunities and he already has a better job than an NBA assistant. If you think someone else is going to come in and make these guys champions next year because he has experience I think you are mistaken. Jackson is definitely a good option and would be a step in the right direction. Carlisle, Van Gundy, Tom T., all would be good additions and would bring back the defense that the Knicks need. However, I would be excited about Jax and I think he would do an excellent job.
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4/5/2008  3:21 PM
Posted by CrushAlot:

Jackson doesn't have to put in a year as an assistant if he wants the job. He will have opportunities and he already has a better job than an NBA assistant. If you think someone else is going to come in and make these guys champions next year because he has experience I think you are mistaken. Jackson is definitely a good option and would be a step in the right direction. Carlisle, Van Gundy, Tom T., all would be good additions and would bring back the defense that the Knicks need. However, I would be excited about Jax and I think he would do an excellent job.

Good Post fool!



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4/5/2008  3:26 PM
bballjones, while I agree that we shouldn't be hiring coaches and GMs and players based on the fact that they are from NY, I almost get the feeling that Mark Jackson is kind of the Joe Girardi of basketball. A recently retired player who's highly regarded around the league and has very good bball smarts and knows A LOT about basketball and the league and is also highly respected.

Now those are all qualities I like in my headcoach and it's enough reason for me to want to give him a try, but I think making him an assistant to start off is a better idea. No need to rush him into this thing, especially considering that we're rebuilding.
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4/5/2008  3:31 PM
Posted by Nalod:


I'll give Donnie some credit as he has hired coaches in the past that has no experience. Even Isiah was not so bad in INdy, but he takes some riskes and just does not starphuch or just hire retreads for the sake of safety.

He want's Jax, thats good enough for me.

Show Isiah the door. It serves no purpose other than his humiliation to keep him. Not that it would bother me, but your not fully moving ahead if you still have him in the basement.


exactly, and as much as isiah ruined this franchise, I don't see the need to keep him around and humiliate him.. there is no need for that....
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4/5/2008  7:23 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

bballjones, while I agree that we shouldn't be hiring coaches and GMs and players based on the fact that they are from NY, I almost get the feeling that Mark Jackson is kind of the Joe Girardi of basketball. A recently retired player who's highly regarded around the league and has very good bball smarts and knows A LOT about basketball and the league and is also highly respected.

Now those are all qualities I like in my headcoach and it's enough reason for me to want to give him a try, but I think making him an assistant to start off is a better idea. No need to rush him into this thing, especially considering that we're rebuilding.

I hope you're right. Nothing against Mark Jackson - I hope he'll work out if he's the choice. It just feels a bit gimmicky to me.
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4/6/2008  12:51 AM
I really do not think it is gimmicky at all. If you listen to him do a Nets game and you are a fan of basketball you know right away that he gets it. He doesn't just get the game planning, he gets teamwork and chemistry. He may not be the best choice but I think he will do well. He may not be as obsessive about game planning as a van gundy type and that would be my only concern. As far as the NY stuff, Mark was the fourth best point guard in his class in high school but because of his character he went on to become one of the best alltime.
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4/6/2008  1:03 AM
We don't need an experienced guy for the next 2 years at the least. Why not try out Jackson while rebuilding and see what he can do? If Skiles came here, he would just curse everyone out and get fired after a year.
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4/6/2008  1:32 AM
Posted by GKFv2:

We don't need an experienced guy for the next 2 years at the least. Why not try out Jackson while rebuilding and see what he can do? If Skiles came here, he would just curse everyone out and get fired after a year.

I agree with you... personally, I like Herb for this reason. He's stuck around and dealt with loads and loads of BS in the process. He understands what it means to be a Knick too.

I guess the argument for hiring Carlisle or Skiles is that they'd implement a system that demands defense. That's really the problem with this team, it was just slopped together. Thsoe guys pay attention to detail and demand the effort top notch defense requires.
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4/6/2008  1:57 AM
since oohah paid homage to cousy, i'll back him up on his choice for coach.
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4/6/2008  7:15 AM
I wouldn't mind Jax coming in as head coach but they really need to surround him with a few solid X's and O's coaches. I'd keep Hanners and Herb but everyone else needs to go out with Isiah, especially Glymph, Suhr and Aguirre. At the very least Jax would have 2 full seasons to learn on the job before any expectations are put on him.

If the plan is to get Jax into the front office, I would make him the Assistant GM. He has a lot more to learn up there than on the sidelines.
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4/6/2008  10:35 AM
I think it's time we had a coach from Connecticut, so I'd like to see the Knicks hire Bippity10.
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