Posted by 4949:

Posted by toodarkmark:

Lets go Brooklyn Nets!

That's what Dolan is doing. Day by day, someone becomes a Brooklyn Nets fan. 21 years Ive bled this team, and as long as Dolan has ANYTHING to do with it, then it's going to be Loser City.

Oh I bet you dolan will get on his ass, as soon as the Nets start showing who's the winner in NY. The Nets move to Brooklyn will probably be the thing that saves the Knicks from total destruction. Unless of course, dolan gets a hold of the Nets also. What a scary ass thought.

Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by eViL:

The Rangers seem to be doing OK the last few years despite Dolan's ownership.

If you read the post, you will see I addressed them.

Posted by eViL:

OK. I agree that there are differences between the NBA and NHL, and specifically the Knicks and Rangers, because of their respective CBA's and the recent changes that the NHL went through.

But I also think Dolan's willingness to spend money is an asset that many owners are unwilling to make available to their GM's. In the right hands, it could be a weapon.

Dolan's loyalty can be a fault and a benefit. Ultimately, I think he made a bad move in choosing Isiah as his main man. But I'm willing to put that aside should Dolan hire a new exec who is more equipped to handle the job.

Posted by eViL:

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by eViL:

OK. I agree that there are differences between the NBA and NHL, and specifically the Knicks and Rangers, because of their respective CBA's and the recent changes that the NHL went through.

But I also think Dolan's willingness to spend money is an asset that many owners are unwilling to make available to their GM's. In the right hands, it could be a weapon.

Dolan's loyalty can be a fault and a benefit. Ultimately, I think he made a bad move in choosing Isiah as his main man. But I'm willing to put that aside should Dolan hire a new exec who is more equipped to handle the job.

if you read gkfv2's post, he addressed that already...

Fine. So I don't know how to read. Do you really have to rub it in?

Posted by eViL:

Oh and the Liberty too...

Posted by 4949:

Posted by eViL:


it could be a weapon.

yeah, but so far it's a weapon that's back firing.

Posted by GKFv2:

This is my conclusion.

With Dolan's insistence on keeping Isiah, it is now finally clear he does not care about winning and knows little about the game of basketball. He just prefers personal relationships with people over whatever the results are on the court. He did the same thing with Sather, except the Rangers had some luck with the CBA and the fact that they actually rebuilt under a championship GM. The same thing wont happen to Isiah. If he ever decides to fire him, it will be too late.

The franchise is already irrelevant at this point. In 10-15 years, nobody will be "dying" to work at the Garden and no free agent is going to want to sign here(we wouldn't have the cap room anyway). The Knicks are headed down a path of failure not even the great Donald Stirling could think of. The Knicks will be more irrelevant than the Clippers soon. It's going to happen eventually. The demise of such a great franchise at the hands of a fat egomaniac who has had everything given to him on a silver platter his entire life. What a sad way for a once-proud franchise to go out. Red Holzman and Dave Debuscherre are rolling over in their graves.

Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by GKFv2:

This is my conclusion.

With Dolan's insistence on keeping Isiah, it is now finally clear he does not care about winning and knows little about the game of basketball. He just prefers personal relationships with people over whatever the results are on the court. He did the same thing with Sather, except the Rangers had some luck with the CBA and the fact that they actually rebuilt under a championship GM. The same thing wont happen to Isiah. If he ever decides to fire him, it will be too late.

The franchise is already irrelevant at this point. In 10-15 years, nobody will be "dying" to work at the Garden and no free agent is going to want to sign here(we wouldn't have the cap room anyway). The Knicks are headed down a path of failure not even the great Donald Stirling could think of. The Knicks will be more irrelevant than the Clippers soon. It's going to happen eventually. The demise of such a great franchise at the hands of a fat egomaniac who has had everything given to him on a silver platter his entire life. What a sad way for a once-proud franchise to go out. Red Holzman and Dave Debuscherre are rolling over in their graves.

I agree. I think people are making a very questionable assumption when they get excited over possible replacements for Isiah: that whoever works under Dolan is actually going to make a difference. After seeing what's gone on under Dolan, I think people are just getting excited about having a new seat on the Titanic. I hope I'm wrong.

How doomed do you think we would be if RC Buford (GM of the SA Spurs) was at the helm of the Knicks' General Management Office and brough in the same players he brought in San Antonio ? Don't tell me there would've been a power struggle. Its been almost 5 years of Isiah now, so time is a non factor as well.