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3/14/2008  11:53 PM
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brook lopez has as good if not better scoring skills around the basket. let's keep in the WAC is a terrible conference, and brook is putting up better numbers / his team has a better record against teams like UCLA and washington state

He's got a good body--he's strong but from the games that I have watched he is erratic on offense--he takes a tremendous amount of shots for his team and has a pretty bad shooting % for a big. I'm not saying he's a bad player--I'm saying that this kid looks like he may be a better fit for the NBA style of play. He's faster longer more athletic a better handle and more effecient. I could care less what conference he plays for he's 7-0 with a 7-6 wingspan with what looks like a very fine array of skills. One reason why I liked Bynum so much was because of his size touch long arms combined with his athletic ability. If you add in heart and work ethic those factors=a very good player? Why because simply there are very few of them on the Earth. I want to see more but this kid deserves SERIOUS consideration at the top of the board and I think he will be a late bloomer to all of these draft sites well into the top 10 at the end of the day. My hope is Nevada can get into the nCAA but at a minimum they will be in the NIT and they have a good team. Perhaps he can get a little nation-wide exposure

His FG% is low, but he's pretty much been the only offensive option on that team this year...guards have not been shooting well and the guys that were supposed to step up from last year haven't. that being said, he's going up against guys like kevin love - what do you think mcgee would do against him? the competitino you play against is big - athleticism is one thing, but if you are looking at skills then you have to look at who is guarding them. besides karl malone can you name one legit player that has come out of the WAC? pj brown? rafer alston? exactly...not that mcgee doesn't have potential but I wouldn't take him in the top 10...granted I have only seen him play twice, but i wasn't blown away. I still think lopez is the best center coming out on both sides of the ball. thabeet is a better shot blocker but brook is a great defensive player and lightyears ahead of thabeet on offense, IMO
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3/15/2008  8:56 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

who can show the same skills as this kid shows? Again this is a 7 footer with extremly long arms. I'm staying in the camp we need a big man--guard are much easier to acquire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJilDqw8JOY

Briggs, I completely agree with you. When we should of picked up Bynum a few years ago, instead we went for Frye and look where that got us.
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3/15/2008  9:19 AM
Posted by nyballer:

brook lopez has as good if not better scoring skills around the basket. let's keep in the WAC is a terrible conference, and brook is putting up better numbers / his team has a better record against teams like UCLA and washington state

I looked at this guy Javale and read some of his report. He only seems to have a good inside game. In his interview he seems a little sloppy-sleepy (Curry type). I take character into account of these players also. I'm not really impressed, other than his inside game. Great slam dunk highlights aren't going to do it alone for me. I wanna see some intelligence behind these guys.

So my guy at this time is still' Lopez. I really think Lopez shows a lot of promising skill and has just about as much inside game as this guy Javale. Lopez is also just as good with the blocking as ja also.
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3/15/2008  10:39 AM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by BRIGGS:

who can show the same skills as this kid shows? Again this is a 7 footer with extremly long arms. I'm staying in the camp we need a big man--guard are much easier to acquire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJilDqw8JOY

Briggs, I completely agree with you. When we should of picked up Bynum a few years ago, instead we went for Frye and look where that got us.

You can compare the length between Bynum and this kid--they are similar in size[height and wingspan] in terms of tremendous length with the athletic ability. One big difference is Bynum is 40 pounds bigger yet he doesnt have an ounce of fat on him. He's behind Lopez in terms of body but if he was the main focus and was allowed the same number of FGA's he's be a better scorer and he's going to be a better NBA shotblocker. He has a LOT of potential. There certainly is going to be a real chance for an NBA team to grab a C out of this draft--the potential inventory at C is deep which is rare. The odds are against us to grab a top 3 pick. I don't want to walk out of this draft with a 6-3 SG--the only 2 guards that I like are Rose and Mayo--after that I prefer Chirs Douglas Roberts over guys like Gordon[who has been dreadful] Bayless Westrbrook--we cant walk out of the draft with a cobo guard with all of these C prospects--we just need to do homework. It's a probable scenario that the draft goes Beasley Rose Lopez Mayo--so unless we have luck on our hands--people should start to consider prospects outside of that group.
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3/15/2008  11:00 AM
I have no interest in guards at this time. We have Collins, who we aren't developing. isiah got him for his size and defensive ability, but he really hasn't had a chance to show any of that and that takes a little time. I'd be happy right now with Collins playing point (and yes' I'll say it, Nate coming off the bench for now as the third guard) and Crawford playing shooting, with the added benefit of Collins developing into a defensive guard, the very reason we got him in the first place. This is why it's important to give our youngs guys as much time as we can and now' more than ever is the time to do it.

I suppose if we get either Javale or Lopez, at least blocking wise, we'll be okay for now, either way. We'll see what happens. I just think we really need to find what we have always needed since Ewing left and that is a solid center first.

I also believe that these huge contracts should just sit for the rest of the season. People argue that you have' to play them because they make so much money. Well' their playing and not doing much for the team anyway, right? It's a waste of money either way, so give the young cats all the time they want and let's see if any of them are worth keeping together in developing a core to build around, starting next season. Who agrees?
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That McGee kid looks like he could be a Power Forward. He looks like he has some offense too, he looks like Camby in those videos.

He would be a pretty good pick up. I like Gordon too though.
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3/15/2008  2:54 PM
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3/15/2008  3:02 PM
brook had a nice game last night - 30 and 12 shooting 50% from the field, 80% from the line against a good wazzu team...let's see how he plays against UCLA today (i think it's on CBS, 6ET)

If beasley, rose, brook, and mayo are off the board and we want to go big, mcgee and thabeet are definitely options...i'm not so impressed by deandre jordan, and i'm also weary of taking a 6'3 SG. if we can we should try to trade up and move into the top 4 so we can get one of those players though

[Edited by - nyballer on 03-15-2008 4:47 PM]
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3/15/2008  3:03 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by nyballer:

brook lopez has as good if not better scoring skills around the basket. let's keep in the WAC is a terrible conference, and brook is putting up better numbers / his team has a better record against teams like UCLA and washington state

I looked at this guy Javale and read some of his report. He only seems to have a good inside game. In his interview he seems a little sloppy-sleepy (Curry type). I take character into account of these players also. I'm not really impressed, other than his inside game. Great slam dunk highlights aren't going to do it alone for me. I wanna see some intelligence behind these guys.

So my guy at this time is still' Lopez. I really think Lopez shows a lot of promising skill and has just about as much inside game as this guy Javale. Lopez is also just as good with the blocking as ja also.

I was reading some blogs on McGee and a lot of people think he needs another year, before he can play in the NBA.
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3/15/2008  6:03 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

who can show the same skills as this kid shows? Again this is a 7 footer with extremly long arms. I'm staying in the camp we need a big man--guard are much easier to acquire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJilDqw8JOY

the most impressive things i saw in that clip were his ability to close off his man in the post to gain an open lane consistently, that no look pass to an open teammate under the basket, & his running to the perimeter to block the guy's jumpshot (very reminiscent of Camby on that play)... he's also got a decent J from the looks of it... good find... would love to get a guy like this by trading for another pick in the draft.
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3/15/2008  7:22 PM
Posted by nyballer:

brook had a nice game last night - 30 and 12 shooting 50% from the field, 80% from the line against a good wazzu team...let's see how he plays against UCLA today (i think it's on CBS, 6ET)

If beasley, rose, brook, and mayo are off the board and we want to go big, mcgee and thabeet are definitely options...i'm not so impressed by deandre jordan, and i'm also weary of taking a 6'3 SG. if we can we should try to trade up and move into the top 4 so we can get one of those players though

[Edited by - nyballer on 03-15-2008 4:47 PM]


nykballer--that is how i envision my personal concept of a basketball team. two players 6-10++- with long arms who are mobile and have skills that compliment each other on both sides of the court----have the ability to protect the basket on one end and play with chemistry and can score in a variety of ways on the other side--now add in the UCLA quickness from the guard positions who can really guard upfront and push the ball on the other side a clutch wing player who can shoot mid and long like rip hamilton from the wing and a tough bench then you have a team
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3/15/2008  8:54 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BRIGGS:

who can show the same skills as this kid shows? Again this is a 7 footer with extremly long arms. I'm staying in the camp we need a big man--guard are much easier to acquire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJilDqw8JOY

the most impressive things i saw in that clip were his ability to close off his man in the post to gain an open lane consistently, that no look pass to an open teammate under the basket, & his running to the perimeter to block the guy's jumpshot (very reminiscent of Camby on that play)... he's also got a decent J from the looks of it... good find... would love to get a guy like this by trading for another pick in the draft.


He seems to have a combination of a few top tier NBA player type games. All of these C prospects bring something to the table. Lopez has very good strength and good/polished post skills with good hands [a little erratic and a little clumsy as well] Thabeet[best defensive player who has good touch with a huge frame huge and upside but right now his hands and rawness are in question] Hibbert[probably the best offensive post player huge body decent shot blocker a bit slow and poor rebounder with a body-type that could put on weight] Deandre Jordan[most explosive big with enormous frame--very raw and maybe the worst attitude of the bigs] Mcgee[Looks like he has a very nice array of NBA post skills with Raheed Wallace like ability to step out and Camby?Bynum type length in terms of wingspan. Looks like the most agile and best ballhandler of all of them' Needs strength not as strong as the other guys. If Lopez Mayo Rose Beasley are gone I certainly do not think you are going wrong picking Mcgee 5-7. I'd have to hold my nose at any small SG picked high.
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