Wins    Losses     Moral Victories

Posted by BasketballJones:

The NBA needs to change they way they calculate the standings. They should have the following three columns:

Wins    Losses     Moral Victories

...and then switch to a hockey style of points so we can get 2 points for wins and 1 point per moral victory. Since we've gotten 61 moral victories that would help tremendously!!!!

Then we'd be right where Isiah wants us, just a couple of points out of a meaningless 8th seed, so he can spin each and every PC into "we're right there" and "many teams have (---) points!" and "remember I'm from the west side of chicago and had to eat dirt and gravel to survive and wore a potato sack to school!"

Posted by Cosmic:

Yeah, we played good alright. Good enough to lose.

This is what bad teams do. They get close then fold. Why anyone thinks just one more trade or just the right draft selection or just the right coach or simply just more time....will change this....is beyond comprehension any more.


The only things you could draw from last night are:

It's nice to see Morris and Chandler get a chance to play although it's baffling why this did not start much sooner in the season.

The team looks much more refreshing without Zachass Randolph out there destroying everything just so he can put up a pretty box score that misleads droves of fans into thinking he's NOT the problem out there.
Other than that, we're 18-43, we're terrible, there's little chance that will change at ALL until Isiah is gone so the new guy can ship out all these "yeah but they're young and promising!" players.....

I think this is what this thread is basically about tho. I know briggs may have gone a little overboard, but the essence of the thread is what I bolded in your post... It give us some hope going forward that we have some pieces to work with, guys like lee, nate, chandler and morris, add balkman too... I am not saying we add a derrick rose and we win 50 games, but it is a start in the right direction.. Hopefully we can trim the fat and keep it moving.

Posted by islesfan:

That's why this whole franchise still needs to be blown up. They aren't going anywhere with Curry, Marbury, Randolph, Q, Jeffries, James. Let the young guys stay and prove themselves while the new GM blows it up and gets the cap down by the summer of 2010 or 2011, then pray that LeBron or Wade wants to decline their player options and come to NY. Of course that doesn't happen if the Knicks don't improve their franchise image because nobody of that ilk will want to be part of a circus like this.

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by BRIGGS:

I think anyone can plainly see that
A. Eddy Curry can be an effective player in what he does [contrary to those who think he should be released?]
B. The same team that could've made the playoffs showed very good play and chemistry
C. The team looks much more like a team *without* Zach randolph
D. That playing the youths has no negative effect on the game and was only a positive

What we are missing
a a star[please basketball Gods let us get beasley]
b. a solid frontcourt player similar to Joe Smith
c. One more quality guard who can play now.

Can we address these issues?
I think we can get an explosive scorer with our lottery pick
Can we trade Zach for a quality guard?
Can we acquire a big like Smith

I know in Knickland things are very upside down in comparsion to the rest of the basketball world. But you mention a game where the Knicks allowed a player to go off for 50 points and lose as a good game? This thread might have more credibility if it was created after Dec 19th game in which we beat them by almost 20 points.

Interestingly you say last night's game was more team oriented but in the game we beat Clev not one Knick took over 15 shots and 7 players finished in double figures.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by BRIGGS:

I think anyone can plainly see that
A. Eddy Curry can be an effective player in what he does [contrary to those who think he should be released?]
B. The same team that could've made the playoffs showed very good play and chemistry
C. The team looks much more like a team *without* Zach randolph
D. That playing the youths has no negative effect on the game and was only a positive

What we are missing
a a star[please basketball Gods let us get beasley]
b. a solid frontcourt player similar to Joe Smith
c. One more quality guard who can play now.

Can we address these issues?
I think we can get an explosive scorer with our lottery pick
Can we trade Zach for a quality guard?
Can we acquire a big like Smith

I know in Knickland things are very upside down in comparsion to the rest of the basketball world. But you mention a game where the Knicks allowed a player to go off for 50 points and lose as a good game? This thread might have more credibility if it was created after Dec 19th game in which we beat them by almost 20 points.

Interestingly you say last night's game was more team oriented but in the game we beat Clev not one Knick took over 15 shots and 7 players finished in double figures.

No team or player[s]on this Earth could've stopped 6-9 250 Lebron James from hitting 5 30 footers when the game was basically tied with 2 minutes to go. Except for Q rich all four starters scored 20 points or close to it and all shot well over 50% doing so. That is good balance. You would like to see a higher ast level--but that is as balanced and effecient as it gets. We received very good play from the young players off the bench 18 points 12 rebounds. That's as good as it's going to get for this team. We *need* more--we need some change--that is why we are 18-44--jamal was not 7-24 the rebounding was equal between the teams as was shotblocking and TO's. There were good signs--there was good chemistry--we just need more obviously. It needs what it didnt get this offseason. Continued success in the draft and no starphuking.