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islesfan
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3/4/2008  2:05 PM
From Isola's blog:

The 2005 NBA Draft included several big-name players, like Paul, Deron Williams and Andrew Bynum. The Knicks ended up with three first round picks - Channing Frye, Nate Robinson and David Lee - and Thomas supporters always say that his eye for talent is above reproach. Now, I know hindsight in 20-20 but Thomas could have selected Bynum or even Danny Granger ahead of Frye. Instead of Robinson he could have taken Jarrett Jack, Jason Maxiell, Linas Kleiza or second-round picks Monta Ellis and Louis Williams. Lee was a solid choice at 30 but Brandon Bass and Ryan Gomes were taken in the second round.

What if Thomas had selected Bynum and Ellis along with Lee? I don’t think they’d be 18-42.
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3/4/2008  2:21 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by tkf:

So now, thread hijacking with the BS posted by klytus and isles is allowed? I don't want to back seat mod, but come on.... do we need to turn every thread into the private outhouse of some people around here?

[Edited by - tkf on 04-03-2008 1:28 PM]

What did I do???

I'm backing up everything that I'm saying.

that was directed more to klytus, but you just now backed up what you said, but again, this thread was about morris and chandler and you turned it into another bash isiah and everypick he made thread.... come on man.... at least let us enjoy the fact that the two rookies we wanted to play, got on the floor.
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Posted by islesfan:

From Isola's blog:

The 2005 NBA Draft included several big-name players, like Paul, Deron Williams and Andrew Bynum. The Knicks ended up with three first round picks - Channing Frye, Nate Robinson and David Lee - and Thomas supporters always say that his eye for talent is above reproach. Now, I know hindsight in 20-20 but Thomas could have selected Bynum or even Danny Granger ahead of Frye. Instead of Robinson he could have taken Jarrett Jack, Jason Maxiell, Linas Kleiza or second-round picks Monta Ellis and Louis Williams. Lee was a solid choice at 30 but Brandon Bass and Ryan Gomes were taken in the second round.

What if Thomas had selected Bynum and Ellis along with Lee? I don’t think they’d be 18-42.

I don't think anyone is saying Isiah's ability to draft is beyond reproach.. Isola is just being a douche here.. How many teams passed on bynum? and on ellis? and lee? please..
Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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3/4/2008  2:36 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by tkf:

So now, thread hijacking with the BS posted by klytus and isles is allowed? I don't want to back seat mod, but come on.... do we need to turn every thread into the private outhouse of some people around here?

[Edited by - tkf on 04-03-2008 1:28 PM]

What did I do???

I'm backing up everything that I'm saying.

that was directed more to klytus, but you just now backed up what you said, but again, this thread was about morris and chandler and you turned it into another bash isiah and everypick he made thread.... come on man.... at least let us enjoy the fact that the two rookies we wanted to play, got on the floor.

Actually I backed up what I was saying with my first post, I just went into greater depth now. But that's neither here nor there.

I didn't hijack this thread. colorfl1 brought up Isiah's draft record and I was addressing that. I didn't just throw it out there. In fact, I was on point talking about Chandler and Morris before that.
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3/4/2008  2:41 PM
colorfl1 just said Isiah was decent at drafting, othing stronger than that.
((and only after Klytus took his dump in the middle of the thread.))

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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3/4/2008  2:43 PM
sadly morris wiil be starting center for the magic next yr
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3/4/2008  2:45 PM
Posted by Siar617:

sadly morris wiil be starting center for the magic next yr

LOL. You need to get back in touch with reality. Watch some Magic games.

DWIGHT HOWARD, HEDO TURKOGLU and RASHARD LEWIS!!!

do those names mean anything to you?
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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3/4/2008  3:12 PM
Posted by kam77:

colorfl1 just said Isiah was decent at drafting, othing stronger than that.
((and only after Klytus took his dump in the middle of the thread.))

colorfl1 brought up Camby, T-Mac and Lee. I addressed Camby, T-Mac and Lee. Then nixluva threw his 2 cents in and I addressed those comments.

Show me again where I was the one that hijacked this thread.
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3/4/2008  3:13 PM
Posted by kam77:

colorfl1 just said Isiah was decent at drafting, othing stronger than that.
((and only after Klytus took his dump in the middle of the thread.))

exactly..
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3/4/2008  3:16 PM
Looks like it's islesfan's turn today............GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!
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3/4/2008  3:17 PM
Show me again where I was the one that hijacked this thread.


Where did i say that?
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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3/4/2008  3:24 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by islesfan:

From Isola's blog:

The 2005 NBA Draft included several big-name players, like Paul, Deron Williams and Andrew Bynum. The Knicks ended up with three first round picks - Channing Frye, Nate Robinson and David Lee - and Thomas supporters always say that his eye for talent is above reproach. Now, I know hindsight in 20-20 but Thomas could have selected Bynum or even Danny Granger ahead of Frye. Instead of Robinson he could have taken Jarrett Jack, Jason Maxiell, Linas Kleiza or second-round picks Monta Ellis and Louis Williams. Lee was a solid choice at 30 but Brandon Bass and Ryan Gomes were taken in the second round.

What if Thomas had selected Bynum and Ellis along with Lee? I don’t think they’d be 18-42.

I don't think anyone is saying Isiah's ability to draft is beyond reproach.. Isola is just being a douche here.. How many teams passed on bynum? and on ellis? and lee? please..

That's not the point. GM's are measured by how they draft and build teams. Isiah Thomas is terrible. This is a fact. If Isiah was such a great drafter, he would have taken Andrew Bynum and Monta Ellis. Just because other GM's passed on both players doesn't take Isiah off the hook. Channing Frye and Nate Robinson are terrible.
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3/4/2008  3:29 PM
Posted by Klytus:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by islesfan:

From Isola's blog:

The 2005 NBA Draft included several big-name players, like Paul, Deron Williams and Andrew Bynum. The Knicks ended up with three first round picks - Channing Frye, Nate Robinson and David Lee - and Thomas supporters always say that his eye for talent is above reproach. Now, I know hindsight in 20-20 but Thomas could have selected Bynum or even Danny Granger ahead of Frye. Instead of Robinson he could have taken Jarrett Jack, Jason Maxiell, Linas Kleiza or second-round picks Monta Ellis and Louis Williams. Lee was a solid choice at 30 but Brandon Bass and Ryan Gomes were taken in the second round.

What if Thomas had selected Bynum and Ellis along with Lee? I don’t think they’d be 18-42.

I don't think anyone is saying Isiah's ability to draft is beyond reproach.. Isola is just being a douche here.. How many teams passed on bynum? and on ellis? and lee? please..

That's not the point. GM's are measured by how they draft and build teams. Isiah Thomas is terrible. This is a fact. If Isiah was such a great drafter, he would have taken Andrew Bynum and Monta Ellis. Just because other GM's passed on both players doesn't take Isiah off the hook. Channing Frye and Nate Robinson are terrible.

tell me what sense does that make? so what you are saying is that every GM that passed on bynum and ellis are not good drafters? just listen to yourself man.... Drafting is hit or miss a lot of times. Isiah has hit more than he has missed. His track record at least proves that if anything... We know he is a horrible GM for many other reasons, I just don't think drafting is one of them...



[Edited by - tkf on 04-03-2008 3:29 PM]
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3/4/2008  3:32 PM
Yeah David Lee, Nate Robinson, Renaldo Balkman and Mardy Collins are tearing up the league right now.
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Posted by Klytus:

Yeah David Lee, Nate Robinson, Renaldo Balkman and Mardy Collins are tearing up the league right now.

actually ,lee is tearing up the league. Invited to practice against the olympic team, MVP of the rookie/soph game, and leads the lead in rebounding off the bench, also averaged a double double last year.... Balkman doesn't play enough, nate is a spark off the bench and on some night does tear up the league.. Mardy collins was a late first round pick and has played like a late second round pick... so what is your point?
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3/4/2008  3:35 PM
Posted by Klytus:

Yeah David Lee, Nate Robinson, Renaldo Balkman and Mardy Collins are tearing up the league right now.

These guys were supposed to be role players. Picked 20th, 21st, 29th, 30th...

Isiah f'ed up with Channing Frye over Andrew Bynum. Yes, this is true.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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3/4/2008  4:21 PM
....laugh at McGrady just being "a flashy player that cant get out of the first round"...and Lee, Balkman, Robinson, ext...being reduced to worthlessness just because they have Isiah's stamp on them. How surprised am I to see that the worst possible slant is taken.

Getting back on track, obviously the sample size is minuscule, but what I took away from Chandler's performance was his aggressiveness and skill set. He dribbles and moves well and is not afraid to take a shot. He didnt shrink against a strong opponent and in crunch time ball. Encouraging signs given the way Zeke has handled his role this season. Plus he's pretty athletic. Its not a request, but a demand that we see more of him for the remainder of the season.
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Posted by sebstar:

....laugh at McGrady just being "a flashy player that cant get out of the first round"...and Lee, Balkman, Robinson, ext...being reduced to worthlessness just because they have Isiah's stamp on them. How surprised am I to see that the worst possible slant is taken.

Getting back on track, obviously the sample size is minuscule, but what I took away from Chandler's performance was his aggressiveness and skill set. He dribbles and moves well and is not afraid to take a shot. He didnt shrink against a strong opponent and in crunch time ball. Encouraging signs given the way Zeke has handled his role this season. Plus he's pretty athletic. Its not a request, but a demand that we see more of him for the remainder of the season.


excellent post..
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3/4/2008  5:19 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by sebstar:

....laugh at McGrady just being "a flashy player that cant get out of the first round"...and Lee, Balkman, Robinson, ext...being reduced to worthlessness just because they have Isiah's stamp on them. How surprised am I to see that the worst possible slant is taken.

Getting back on track, obviously the sample size is minuscule, but what I took away from Chandler's performance was his aggressiveness and skill set. He dribbles and moves well and is not afraid to take a shot. He didnt shrink against a strong opponent and in crunch time ball. Encouraging signs given the way Zeke has handled his role this season. Plus he's pretty athletic. Its not a request, but a demand that we see more of him for the remainder of the season.


excellent post..

Morris was not intimidated either... his execution on offense did not seem hesitant or awkward (READ: like a typical night of Curry(''); He brings a nice presence down low... and surprised me with his execution considering he has logged so few meaningful minutes.
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Posted by colorfl1:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by sebstar:

....laugh at McGrady just being "a flashy player that cant get out of the first round"...and Lee, Balkman, Robinson, ext...being reduced to worthlessness just because they have Isiah's stamp on them. How surprised am I to see that the worst possible slant is taken.

Getting back on track, obviously the sample size is minuscule, but what I took away from Chandler's performance was his aggressiveness and skill set. He dribbles and moves well and is not afraid to take a shot. He didnt shrink against a strong opponent and in crunch time ball. Encouraging signs given the way Zeke has handled his role this season. Plus he's pretty athletic. Its not a request, but a demand that we see more of him for the remaeder of the season.


excellent post..

Morris was not intimidated either... his execution on offense did not seem hesitant or awkward (READ: like a typical night of Curry(''); He brings a nice presence down low... and surprised me with his execution considering he has logged so few meaningful minutes.

True...and good looking, TKF. Appreciate it. I think the consensus is that Morris is probably going to be on the first thing smoking once this season ends due to Zeke's mismanagement --- hence the concentration on Chandler's development.

Its just sad. Morris could have filled several voids and compensated for the holes in Curry and Zbo's respective games. He could have been easily integrated into the rotation. Not to mention Chandler, given how much of an abject failure Q Rich has become. I cant even wrap my mind around the decision making process of the Zeke administration.
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