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Pike
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7/15/2003  12:36 PM
There is something to be said about Houston doing nothing wrong... he is what he is... a 100 million dollar shooter who is very weak on defense and is often completely invisible if his shot isn't dropping... but, don't blame him... nobody ever said he was anything else... and you can't blame Allan for Layden's decision to overpay by at least 30 million dollars. He is what he is... he takes the ball and either passes or shoots a J... nothing more, nothing less.
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7/15/2003  12:53 PM
And SPREWELL takes the ball & shoots an air ball, i mean turnover, i mean gets stripped, i mean SPREWELL REALLY SUCKS !!! He goes 1 for 15 & u blame HOUSTON for him shooting bad because he is out of position !!! Since when does playing any position on the floor make u a better shooter or not ??? SPREWELL is a fantasy in all of your heads !!! You see the GSTATE player when you watch him playing like SHANDON ANDERSON !!! When was the last time SPREWELL was, well... SPREWELL ??? 3 YRS AGO ??? Now SPREWELL is the 2nd coming of SHANDON ANDERSON !!!!!
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7/15/2003  1:20 PM
Posted by KARNIVORE:

I would still trade him for a jelly sandwich & some kool aid !!!!

Here's a jelly sandwich and kool aid... now go on and play. lol.
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7/15/2003  1:40 PM
Seriously PIKE, did u notice that SHANDON ANDERSON & SPREWELL play equally as BILL WALTON would say "HORRRRRRRIBLE" last year ??? Yea SPREE used to be the better player, but now ??.........we, i'm not so sure.. P.S. thanks for the grub !!!!
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7/15/2003  1:47 PM
LOOK, I know you don't like Latrell but, DON'T EVER mention him in the same sentence as Shandon Anderson again!

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7/15/2003  8:31 PM
Spree has the kind of fire and heart that we need. Houston is too damn soft to be getting 100 Million anyway. If Spree were playing the 2 spot like he is SUPPOSED to, this slump would have never occurred. If Allan was playing the 3 all this time, I betcha he would not have gotten that damn contract either!

Back the hell on up with all that hating on Sprewell. None of you hating on him now had a goddamn thing to say last year, or the year before that.
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7/15/2003  10:24 PM
Travis Knight would really like to contribute on this team....
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7/15/2003  10:35 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

Spree has the kind of fire and heart that we need. Houston is too damn soft to be getting 100 Million anyway. If Spree were playing the 2 spot like he is SUPPOSED to, this slump would have never occurred. If Allan was playing the 3 all this time, I betcha he would not have gotten that damn contract either!

Back the hell on up with all that hating on Sprewell. None of you hating on him now had a goddamn thing to say last year, or the year before that.

True.
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7/16/2003  12:12 AM
Posted by playa2:

Houston has done nothing wrong , man what are you saying. The only guy who hurts this team by playing out of position is Mewell! Trade him for a plate of Ihops panckes and a glass a juice and send him to the paperclipps.

And why is he playing out of position? BECAUSE OF HOUSTON AND HIS PATHETIC EXCUSE OF A CONTRACT!!!!

Spreewell is a better 2 that Houston. Spree plays defense, he could score, he can shoot, and given the chance he can lead a team.

But because of the way he was treated by this team since the day he arrived, why would he want to? He's second fiddle to a man who he knows and the world knows is not worth the money he is getting. He is treated by managment as a scapegoat to the problems of the team when we all know why the team suffers. And most importantly, he is being wasted by having to play out of position against much larger assignments.

Of course everyone thinks he sucks, he can't play or the like. HE IS PLAYING AGAINST PEOPLE WHO HAVE MOST LIKELY PLAYED A CAREER AT THE POSITION HE HAS ONLY STARTED PLAYING FOR A FEW YEARS!!!

And despite all that, including a hand injury, verbal abuse from morons like some on this thread who trash him without warrant, etc, who was the man that Van Gundy gave the ball to in '99 when the entire hopes of the New York Knicks team rested on one shot?

It sure as hell wasn't Allan Houston, that's for sure. It was Latrell Spreewell.

Houston is overpaid trash. And don't worry about Spreewell. After next season, he'll be gone like the rest of the talent the Knicks squandered away, contributing his positive minutes to another team and most likely helping them win a championship, like he attempted to do with the Knicks.

As for Allan Houston, he will be the big fish in the small pond as always, trying to convince the world that he is the Kobe of the East, while getting beat defensively by the likes of Jerry Stackhouse, Eddie Jones, Richard Hamilton and Jalen Rose. All players, btw, that the Knicks tried to get to offset the "skills" of Allen Houston. More like replace if you ask me.
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7/16/2003  12:24 AM
snif.


beautiful
all those years as a fan and now i'm the anti-knick. life is crazy aint it.
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7/16/2003  2:17 AM
If the knicks could, get rid of both Sprewell and Houston. It's time to add some youth on that team. Sprewell/Houston combo is starting to get played out. Tome for some new blood
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7/16/2003  7:53 AM
Posted by masterjedidarkcaster:
Posted by playa2:

Houston has done nothing wrong , man what are you saying. The only guy who hurts this team by playing out of position is Mewell! Trade him for a plate of Ihops panckes and a glass a juice and send him to the paperclipps.

And why is he playing out of position? BECAUSE OF HOUSTON AND HIS PATHETIC EXCUSE OF A CONTRACT!!!!

Spreewell is a better 2 that Houston. Spree plays defense, he could score, he can shoot, and given the chance he can lead a team.

But because of the way he was treated by this team since the day he arrived, why would he want to? He's second fiddle to a man who he knows and the world knows is not worth the money he is getting. He is treated by managment as a scapegoat to the problems of the team when we all know why the team suffers. And most importantly, he is being wasted by having to play out of position against much larger assignments.

Of course everyone thinks he sucks, he can't play or the like. HE IS PLAYING AGAINST PEOPLE WHO HAVE MOST LIKELY PLAYED A CAREER AT THE POSITION HE HAS ONLY STARTED PLAYING FOR A FEW YEARS!!!

And despite all that, including a hand injury, verbal abuse from morons like some on this thread who trash him without warrant, etc, who was the man that Van Gundy gave the ball to in '99 when the entire hopes of the New York Knicks team rested on one shot?

It sure as hell wasn't Allan Houston, that's for sure. It was Latrell Spreewell.

Houston is overpaid trash. And don't worry about Spreewell. After next season, he'll be gone like the rest of the talent the Knicks squandered away, contributing his positive minutes to another team and most likely helping them win a championship, like he attempted to do with the Knicks.

As for Allan Houston, he will be the big fish in the small pond as always, trying to convince the world that he is the Kobe of the East, while getting beat defensively by the likes of Jerry Stackhouse, Eddie Jones, Richard Hamilton and Jalen Rose. All players, btw, that the Knicks tried to get to offset the "skills" of Allen Houston. More like replace if you ask me.

Mewell production has decreased every yr since the 99 finals run , while Houston's has increased and you talking about production. Houston is a team player who benefits the knicks on and off the court, Mewell all he use to do is get some fans happy with his end to end dunks, but if you notice he has shut that act down almost completley as age has crept in and Shandon Anderson has had more of an impact lately with end to end dunking! The knicks gave that sucker a chance to redeem himself after acting a fool on the left coast in GoldenState he owes them(NY) as much as anybody . His judgement is usually questioned when the game is close and he tries to imitate Houston at the end of the games by taking a big shot and then putting his head down when he fails. The fool is in competition with his own Captain ALLAN HOUSTON, this is where he gets the term "MEWELL". He needs to come off the bench(6TH MAN) like he did back in the day(99) if he stays with the team this yr, isn't this when he was most productive backing up ALLAN HOUSTON.

[Edited by - playa2 on 07/16/2003 07:56:30]
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7/16/2003  9:56 AM
Posted by knicksbb10:

If the knicks could, get rid of both Sprewell and Houston. It's time to add some youth on that team. Sprewell/Houston combo is starting to get played out. Tome for some new blood

I like Spree and think Allan Housless is a waste of flesh, but I think this approach would be the best approach. If they can both be traded, it'd probably be best.
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7/16/2003  10:41 AM
Houston's agent getting his client 20.7M in last year of his contract all but guaranteed he would not be traded... it was as good as a no trade clause.
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7/16/2003  11:09 AM
Posted by prodson:

snif.


beautiful

Are you crying because of what I wrote?

Wow, I didn't know I could have that kind of affect on people.

Cool.
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7/16/2003  11:14 AM
Yeah they both will eventually get traded, but Allan's CONtract hurts our cap alot more than Spree's.

Wanna see Spree perform? let him play the 2... his NATURAL spot and let Allan play the 3 spot.

It takes a real lack of consideration to call a player who sacrificed part of his game and possibly years off his career selfish ("Me-Well") when ya BOY Allan would have beeen crying like a beeotch if (and actually when) asked to make a similar position change.

LOL If only people remembered the little things like that, they'd have a whole lot LESS negatively critical things to say about Spree...
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7/16/2003  11:20 AM
Mewell production has decreased every yr since the 99 finals run , while Houston's has increased and you talking about production. Houston is a team player who benefits the knicks on and off the court, Mewell all he use to do is get some fans happy with his end to end dunks, but if you notice he has shut that act down almost completley as age has crept in and Shandon Anderson has had more of an impact lately with end to end dunking! The knicks gave that sucker a chance to redeem himself after acting a fool on the left coast in GoldenState he owes them(NY) as much as anybody . His judgement is usually questioned when the game is close and he tries to imitate Houston at the end of the games by taking a big shot and then putting his head down when he fails. The fool is in competition with his own Captain ALLAN HOUSTON, this is where he gets the term "MEWELL". He needs to come off the bench(6TH MAN) like he did back in the day(99) if he stays with the team this yr, isn't this when he was most productive backing up ALLAN HOUSTON.

It's ok. Keep thinking like that. Soon, he will be gone and your song will change.

"Oh, man, remember when we had Spree. Man that guy could play. Now, all we have is Shandon Anderson playing the 3, and Lampe coming off the bench. Crap. Those were the days."

Mark my words, just like Ewing: You don't know what you got until its gone.

NEVER.....NEVER....did I criticize(sp?) Patrick when he was here. I was one of the few fans who didn't. Meanwhile, the papers, the talk radio shows, and of course the ignorant fan called for Ewing's head. What happens?

We trade him away, and have never had a decent pure center since.

Soon, history will repeat itself again. Spreewell's contract will expire, he'll leave. And all Knicks fans like yourself will rejoice for the summer.

Then, come October 2004 (barring a miracle), the reality will sink in: Who is going to play the 3 with the same heart and effort (though he may have failed at times b/c of being out of position, you can't tell me that he didn't sure as hell try) as Spree?

Don't look at Allan. He won't move unless you give him a 220 million dollar contract. But he sure as hell help Spree back his bags, drove him to the airport and waved to his plane as it taxied out of JFK. Why? Because that emotional midget thinks that Spree is the cause of his failures.

Just wait, because once he's gone, the TRUE failures will begin. Come the 2005 draft (once again, barring a miracle) we will have the one of the top 3 picks. All because we put our hopes on the wrong horse.
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7/16/2003  11:22 AM
spree ewing vandummy, what do they all have in common? ALL will or are already off the knicks payroll.
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7/16/2003  11:23 AM
Don't waste your time talking to Playa on the subject.
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7/16/2003  11:23 AM
Posted by masterjedidarkcaster:
Mewell production has decreased every yr since the 99 finals run , while Houston's has increased and you talking about production. Houston is a team player who benefits the knicks on and off the court, Mewell all he use to do is get some fans happy with his end to end dunks, but if you notice he has shut that act down almost completley as age has crept in and Shandon Anderson has had more of an impact lately with end to end dunking! The knicks gave that sucker a chance to redeem himself after acting a fool on the left coast in GoldenState he owes them(NY) as much as anybody . His judgement is usually questioned when the game is close and he tries to imitate Houston at the end of the games by taking a big shot and then putting his head down when he fails. The fool is in competition with his own Captain ALLAN HOUSTON, this is where he gets the term "MEWELL". He needs to come off the bench(6TH MAN) like he did back in the day(99) if he stays with the team this yr, isn't this when he was most productive backing up ALLAN HOUSTON.

It's ok. Keep thinking like that. Soon, he will be gone and your song will change.

"Oh, man, remember when we had Spree. Man that guy could play. Now, all we have is Shandon Anderson playing the 3, and Lampe coming off the bench. Crap. Those were the days."

Mark my words, just like Ewing: You don't know what you got until its gone.

NEVER.....NEVER....did I criticize(sp?) Patrick when he was here. I was one of the few fans who didn't. Meanwhile, the papers, the talk radio shows, and of course the ignorant fan called for Ewing's head. What happens?

We trade him away, and have never had a decent pure center since.

Soon, history will repeat itself again. Spreewell's contract will expire, and he'll leave. Or he will get traded away for another talent that Allan is jealous of because it takes away from his convuluted spotlight. And all Knicks fans like yourself will rejoice for the summer.

Then, come October 2004 (barring a miracle), the reality will sink in: Who is going to play the 3 with the same heart and effort (though he may have failed at times b/c of being out of position, you can't tell me that he didn't sure as hell try) as Spree?

Don't look at Allan. He won't move unless you give him a 220 million dollar contract. But I bet he will sure as hell help Spree pack his bags, drive him to the airport and wave to his plane as it taxies out of JFK. Why? Because that emotional midget thinks that Spree is the cause of his failures.

Just wait, because once he's gone, the TRUE failures will begin. Come the 2005 draft (once again, barring a miracle) we will have the one of the top 3 picks. All because we put our hopes on the wrong horse.
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