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MS
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2/15/2008  10:28 AM
Nuggets would be better off moving iverson, taking zbo, and trading for artest and letting him play the 2 spot.
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2/15/2008  10:31 AM
Posted by MS:

Nuggets would be better off moving iverson, taking zbo, and trading for artest and letting him play the 2 spot.

Did you say Iverson? Where is he going?
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2/15/2008  10:37 AM
Expect Kenyon Martin and Nene to come back and a 1st Rounder to go to Denver in any trade. Remember, Isiah Thomas never wins trades. He ALWAYS gets raped.
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2/15/2008  10:55 AM
Posted by Klytus:

Expect Kenyon Martin and Nene to come back and a 1st Rounder to go to Denver in any trade. Remember, Isiah Thomas never wins trades. He ALWAYS gets raped.

Sadly, there is a lot of truth to your post. With how Popcorn man has been acting lately, where he looks like he wants to get fired, this might be the move that pushes Jimmy Doh to the brink. Well, on second thought, it might not be that bad, at least Zeke will be gone. Sigh.
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2/15/2008  10:56 AM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by MS:

Nuggets would be better off moving iverson, taking zbo, and trading for artest and letting him play the 2 spot.

Did you say Iverson? Where is he going?

I don't get that either. Are they trying to move AI?
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2/15/2008  1:54 PM
JR Smith is a horrible chemistry guy but this trade would help us shore up some areas. I really cant see Denver dumb enough to want Zach
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2/15/2008  2:20 PM
Posted by King1:

JR Smith is a horrible chemistry guy but this trade would help us shore up some areas. I really cant see Denver dumb enough to want Zach

I can. Taking the temperature of the Western Conference, how can you not...everybody is in panic buy mode right now. I really like the deal that was quoted in the initial article. Really shake the foundation of whatever you would call this assemblage of nonsense that takes the Garden floor every night.

Cant get too excited yet. Zeke might as well stay on the phone, whats they point of practices or even showing up for games at this point
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2/15/2008  3:04 PM
Posted by Klytus:

Expect Kenyon Martin and Nene to come back and a 1st Rounder to go to Denver in any trade. Remember, Isiah Thomas never wins trades. He ALWAYS gets raped.

I dont know about the "always gets raped part", but I cant think of too many deal that extended beyond a "push" designation. In any event, I question Zeke's motivation as he seems to fit the 'dead man walking' role at this point. The top Western Conference teams are cashing in their chips at this point, and an opportunistic G.M could take advantage. If Dolan is going to ultimately can Isiah, then he needs to do it now so we can explore trade opportunities. F-it, why am I even wasting my time on the Knicks right now. Wake me when something is finally done.
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2/15/2008  4:30 PM
Re:Nuggets looking at Zach Randolph 20 Minutes ago Karma: 1
I'm surprised there is even a trade rumor involving the Nuggets and Knicks. Especially after the brawl with the Nuggets and Knicks. NOt to mention Karl calling Isiah a jack ***. I would be shocked if this deal goes through. Najera is an expiring contract and Hunter only makes about 3 mil a year. Kleiza is about only one mil a year. So this trade would just help the Knicks get rid of Zach's contract. So you have to ask yourself why didn't Isiah let Francis contract expire again?

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2/15/2008  6:29 PM
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Wow if that trade is actually made I will be shocked beyond belief. I guess we'd have to chalk that up to Grunwald since it offers cap relief, something Isiah has never done and will never do.

come on bro, that's a little unfair isn't it? if you're gonna blame Isiah for all the failed trades u gotta give him credit for a good one, that is IF he makes the deal obviously... i can't believe DEN would even consider something like this but if it goes down i gotta give Isiah props for at least realizing his experiment failed miserably & FINALLY made a move that made sense.
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2/15/2008  6:32 PM
Posted by NYKBocker:

I think that if this goes down we will end up with Nene, Hunter and Kleiza for Randolph and Freddie Jones. Either way Denver will want either KMart or Nene included in the trade. They need ZBo's scoring to go with Camby's defensive presence. I just hope it is Nene and not KMart. Although both players are injury prone. Both players has not played a full season in the past 4-5 years....but to pick up Kleiza and Hunter this would be a good trade for us.

This trade would absolutely push the Nuggets to the elite teams of the Western Conference.
C-Camby
PF-ZBo
SF-Carmelo "Cheap Shot" Anthony
SG-JR Smith
PG-Iverson

Now they just need to get a better SG. Well, Freddie Jones can play the role of Snow for Iverson. I can see why Denver wants ZBo.

hell no, i'd rather have KMart... Nene's contract is even more obscene as it runs a year longer... it would set us behind yet another season... KMart's contract runs the same length as Zach's
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2/15/2008  6:36 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by NYKBocker:

I think that if this goes down we will end up with Nene, Hunter and Kleiza for Randolph and Freddie Jones. Either way Denver will want either KMart or Nene included in the trade. They need ZBo's scoring to go with Camby's defensive presence. I just hope it is Nene and not KMart. Although both players are injury prone. Both players has not played a full season in the past 4-5 years....but to pick up Kleiza and Hunter this would be a good trade for us.

This trade would absolutely push the Nuggets to the elite teams of the Western Conference.
C-Camby
PF-ZBo
SF-Carmelo "Cheap Shot" Anthony
SG-JR Smith
PG-Iverson

Now they just need to get a better SG. Well, Freddie Jones can play the role of Snow for Iverson. I can see why Denver wants ZBo.

hell no, i'd rather have KMart... Nene's contract is even more obscene as it runs a year longer... it would set us behind yet another season... KMart's contract runs the same length as Zach's

I have a problem with KMart being a Knick. He is not up there with Reggie but I can't see him being a Knick. Gives me the hibigeebees.
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2/15/2008  6:49 PM
lol... ur right, i can't see it either... he actually plays w/some fire & intensity.
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2/15/2008  7:14 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Wow if that trade is actually made I will be shocked beyond belief. I guess we'd have to chalk that up to Grunwald since it offers cap relief, something Isiah has never done and will never do.

come on bro, that's a little unfair isn't it? if you're gonna blame Isiah for all the failed trades u gotta give him credit for a good one, that is IF he makes the deal obviously... i can't believe DEN would even consider something like this but if it goes down i gotta give Isiah props for at least realizing his experiment failed miserably & FINALLY made a move that made sense.

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2/15/2008  7:54 PM
Trade Crawford/Jeffries+Collins for Kmart/Kleiza and JR -
Crawford had his chance for 4 years and has shown no growth in basketball IQ. Denver gets a pure shooting guard to add to their power packed line up of scorers plus two defensive players to help Camby.

We get two Sgs- at low salary - who won't jack up 20 shots a game and shoot only 40 percent for over 4 seasons and also try to show off and get the ball stolen at critical times.

We add depth to an already deep front court (sort of like having a great O line/D Line in footblaa- as Madden saya -"It all starts up front"). We then have Curry/Randolph/Kmart/Lee - no matter what - you will always get scoring from your front court- allowing your rookie back court to get better shots.
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2/15/2008  7:55 PM
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2/15/2008  8:07 PM
Posted by iyamwutiam:

Trade Crawford/Jeffries+Collins for Kmart/Kleiza and JR -
Crawford had his chance for 4 years and has shown no growth in basketball IQ. Denver gets a pure shooting guard to add to their power packed line up of scorers plus two defensive players to help Camby.

We get two Sgs- at low salary - who won't jack up 20 shots a game and shoot only 40 percent for over 4 seasons and also try to show off and get the ball stolen at critical times.

We add depth to an already deep front court (sort of like having a great O line/D Line in footblaa- as Madden saya -"It all starts up front"). We then have Curry/Randolph/Kmart/Lee - no matter what - you will always get scoring from your front court- allowing your rookie back court to get better shots.

Denver is interested in ZBo. I don't think they want Jamal.
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2/15/2008  8:51 PM
They need defense too- so I am dreaming - that Crawford- a veteran Sg + two good defensive players (Jeffries/Collins) r Rose's expiring contract would be acceptable. I really think Crawford hurts this team down the sretch periods when he mindlessly chucks te ball, or tries some dopey cross over where he gets the ball stolen or worse he forgets that 'he; is running the team- so he should really be calling out plays!!
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2/15/2008  8:58 PM
there has been talk about DEN being interested in Jamal before, but that was before they got their hands on AI... i don't see why they'd need Jamal on their team... they need a defensive G who looks to pass first, not a 1 on 1 type G like Jamal.
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2/16/2008  12:19 PM
if we can trade collins to the nuggets with zbo that would be great
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