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EnySpree
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2/13/2008  5:39 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

Dallas Trade

Eddy Curry for Shawn Bradley's contract, Trenton Hassel and second round pick

lets ****in do this already!

edit: wait a minute!!!

[Edited by - enyspree on 13-02-2008 5:41 PM]
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2/13/2008  5:43 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Allanfan20:

Maybe by name, Terry is the shooting guard, but Dirk absolutely plays that role of the main shooter who is going to play the perimeter game. He's no power foward.

I think that's an overstatement. Dirk is a solid rebounder and decent shot-blocker.

muahahahahahaha!

Tiny Tim (Duncan), on the other hand, is a 6'11" SG
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2/13/2008  5:44 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

Dallas Trade

Eddy Curry for Shawn Bradley's contract, Trenton Hassel and second round pick


I'm pretty sure you can't trade for Shawn Bradley's contract. Is this is a joke trade suggestion?
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2/13/2008  6:04 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Allanfan20:

Maybe by name, Terry is the shooting guard, but Dirk absolutely plays that role of the main shooter who is going to play the perimeter game. He's no power foward.

I think that's an overstatement. Dirk is a solid rebounder and decent shot-blocker.

muahahahahahaha!

Tiny Tim (Duncan), on the other hand, is a 6'11" SG

Eddy Curry is a 6'11" (really 6'9"?) PG. However, I think in Curry's case, the P stands for potato.
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2/13/2008  6:10 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

Dallas Trade

Eddy Curry for Shawn Bradley's contract, Trenton Hassel and second round pick


I'm pretty sure you can't trade for Shawn Bradley's contract. Is this is a joke trade suggestion?

Ummm...yes you can trade Shawn Bradley's contract. The Lakers traded Aaron Mckie contract to the Grizzlies eventhough he retired at the end of last season. Joke trade??? No. Get your NBA knowledge up.

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2/13/2008  6:33 PM
rod thorn is the man! please, please, please, please, PLEASE come to NY!
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2/13/2008  6:42 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Allanfan20:

Maybe by name, Terry is the shooting guard, but Dirk absolutely plays that role of the main shooter who is going to play the perimeter game. He's no power foward.

I think that's an overstatement. Dirk is a solid rebounder and decent shot-blocker.

muahahahahahaha!

Tiny Tim (Duncan), on the other hand, is a 6'11" SG

bonn, i'm amazed you and bitty still come out of your closets with your dirk-love and your mavs-love the way i've roasted the 2 of you each and every year during the playoffs. you know i thought it was going to be tough for dirk and the mavs to top their choke of '06 but they really pleasantly proved me wrong in '07! can’t wait to see what they have in store for me in '08.
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2/13/2008  6:42 PM
If the goal is to win a championship, this is a good deal for the Mavs, the Nets are getting marginally compensated for a player of Kidd's caliber.

Kidd has instantly become the best passer, defensive player, rebounder, and clutchest player on the Mavericks. They had nobody to run the offense and get Dirk, Terry, and Howard easy looks, now they have one of the best to ever do it on their team.

Offensively, Kidd is better than Harris as well. Harris has been okay this year, but he isn't as good as Kidd, period.

Kidd actually entirely replaces what they lost with Nash, with the exception of Nash's shooting. The Mavs have enough shooting with Terry and Nowitzki. Kidd is a lot better at defense than Nash.

Watch every player on the Mavs become a lot better and more efficient scorer, watch how much better their perimeter D will be.

The Mavs are improved.

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Hopefully, Harris' numbers will increase on the Nets because he is on both my fantasy teams.

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2/13/2008  6:44 PM
i think what many people are forgetting is that kidd won't be suiting up tonight in toronto.
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2/13/2008  6:46 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

i think what many people are forgetting is that kidd won't be suiting up tonight in toronto.

i knew there had to be a reason why you were even bothering to post on this topic.
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2/13/2008  6:52 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

Dallas Trade

Eddy Curry for Shawn Bradley's contract, Trenton Hassel and second round pick


I'm pretty sure you can't trade for Shawn Bradley's contract. Is this is a joke trade suggestion?

Ummm...yes you can trade Shawn Bradley's contract. The Lakers traded Aaron Mckie contract to the Grizzlies eventhough he retired at the end of last season. Joke trade??? No. Get your NBA knowledge up.


I thought Bradley was bought out by Dallas and actually you're wrong.
McKie benefits in Lakers-Grizzlies deal

By TOM MOORE
phillyBurbs.com

PHILADELPHIA — Aaron McKie was still listed as a 76ers assistant coach on the notes distributed to the media before last night's game against Orlando.

Yet McKie was on his way to Memphis. Welcome to the world of the NBA and its salary cap rules.

What happened was the Lakers needed another contract to make their trade for Pau Gasol work under the cap rules, which require the salaries of players changing teams to be within 25 percent plus $100,000 of each other. Since L.A. still held the rights to McKie, who played sparingly for them last year, the Lakers signed McKie for more than $1 million to make the deal a reality.

Because McKie was a volunteer assistant with the Sixers and not under contract here, McKie was eligible to sign.

The Sixers are paying McKie $7 million this season in the final year of a seven-year contract Larry Brown signed him to in 2001. The Sixers waived McKie in 2005 as part of a one-time amnesty exemption, meaning the Sixers don't have to count his salary toward their luxury tax figure.

Meanwhile, McKie's combined salary this season now exceeds $8 million.

“What a country,” Sixers president Ed Stefanski said.

“It's a great opportunity for Aaron,” Sixers coach Maurice Cheeks said. “I told him if it's an opportunity, take advantage of it. He can always come back.”

There's a chance the Grizzlies could waive McKie. If they do, he could possibly be back with the Sixers as a volunteer assistant later this season.

Of course, the 35-year-old McKie could conceivably be back on the court with Memphis, which also received Kwame Brown, rookie guard Javaris Crittendon, first-round picks in 2008 and 2010, and the rights to Gasol's brother, Marc, for the talented Pau Gasol. Or the Grizzlies could have McKie work with some of their young players as kind of a player-coach.

Memphis makes its only visit to the Wachovia Center on Feb. 13.

“I don't have any extra tickets,” Stefanski joked. “He's going to have to pay for every ticket.”

McKie averaged 9.5 points in 13 pro seasons, 61/2 of which he spent with the Sixers. He occasionally filled in as a player in scrimmages this year when the Sixers needed an extra body.

“No wonder he was playing so hard in the 3-on-3s,” a smiling Willie Green said.

*With rookie Jason Smith sidelined by a sprained left ankle, fellow rookie Thaddeus Young made his second NBA start for the Sixers.

Cheeks liked the way Reggie Evans played in his two games as a reserve — after starting the first 44 games — and the Magic started undersized Rashard Lewis at power forward, which made Young a decent matchup for Lewis. Smith started for the first time in Wednesday's win over the Bucks.

Do you actually see the Mavericks re-signing Bradley to $4-5mil to make that deal work(they probably can't because they have no cap space or exceptions big enough to absorb his salary? And Mckie was a Free Agent his contract actually expired with the Lakers.



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 02-13-2008 6:29 PM]
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2/13/2008  6:54 PM
Posted by efw:

rod thorn is the man! please, please, please, please, PLEASE come to NY!

Actually it's been reported Kiki laid the groundwork/worked the deal.
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2/13/2008  6:57 PM
kiki works in jersey now?
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2/13/2008  7:04 PM
Posted by oohah:



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Hopefully, Harris' numbers will increase on the Nets because he is on both my fantasy teams.

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I have Carter and Nenad in my money league, so I'm hoping Harris is a professional about getting traded and plays hard
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2/13/2008  7:08 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by efw:

rod thorn is the man! please, please, please, please, PLEASE come to NY!

Actually it's been reported Kiki laid the groundwork/worked the deal.

when Kiki left Denver I hoped Dolan would fire Thomas and bring him to NY.

the Kiki vs Thomas debates around here were classic
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2/13/2008  7:29 PM
Posted by efw:

kiki works in jersey now?

Yeah, he was hired as GM a week or so ago.

Nice trade by Jersey. Harris is a great young kid. The picks might be late first rounders but hey we got David Lee with the 30th so you never know there. Lots of expiring.

Exactly the type of deal I'd LOVE to do for Curry, Crawford, Randolph - three times over.

Memphis being another team that did the great deal moving Pau for something similar.


Why can't we do this? Oh...that's right.... Isiah thinks this is a core that's one more trade away from being an elite NBA team.
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2/13/2008  7:34 PM
Also here's more on how Mckie was included in the Gasol deal


http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-30-10/
Aaron-McKie-is-Not-the-Only-NBA-Coach-Who-Could-Get-Traded.html

But how did that happen?

McKie was included in the deal to make the salary cap numbers work. The Lakers could have renounced McKie, but instead -- as teams often do -- held onto his rights. Sometimes the rights to retired players can come in handy, and the cost of keeping them is only some salary cap inflexibility.

A free agent like McKie stays on the books as a "cap hold" until he re-signs with his own team, signs with another team, or is renounced. UPDATE: These players are not under contract and are typically not paid (exception: McKie, and all those bought out under the one-time amnesty rule). But they have not been renounced either -- it's like the team has a right of first refusal to their playing services if they want to come back. And that right costs the team a little bit of space under the salary cap. Teams that are trying to maximize cap space to sign free agents typically will renounce these guys. But in the meantime, they hang around on the books.

This allows a team, like the Lakers with Aaron McKie, to use that player in a trade, instead of a player on their current roster.

Some of the names might surprise you -- like current Raptors head coach Sam Mitchell, who could in theory be traded by Minnesota. (Based on a conversation I just had with the league office, for the league to approve such a trade, the NBA would have to be satisfied that Mitchell's contract with the Raptors was completley resolved -- bought out, terminated etc. -- and that whichever team was acquiring Mitchell was doing so to get him to play basketball for them. They frown on retired players moving around on paper just to satisfy the collective bargaining agreement.)

Here is a list of some other "Aaron McKies" that are on the books and eligible to be traded, even though most have retired. Some have big cap holds, and could have big new contracts without becoming difficult-to-trade "base year compensation" players. That means they could become part of big trades.

High Salary
Chicago P.J. Brown ($8,560,000)
Dallas Keith Van Horn ($15,694,250)
Indiana Rik Smits ($12,250,000)
Minnesota Latrell Sprewell ($14,625,000)

Medium Salary
Boston Roshown McLeod
Chicago Michael Sweetney
Detroit Victor Alexander, Dale Davis, Don Reid
Golden State Calbert Cheaney
Houston Maciej Lampe, Jake Tsakalidis
Indiana Zan Tabak
LA Lakers Ron Harper, Karl Malone, Shammond Williams
New Orleans Marc Jackson
Philadelphia Rodney Rogers
Phoenix Jalen Rose
Portland Voshon Leonard, Detlef Schrempf
Sacramento Vitaly Potapenko, Brent Price, Corliss Williamson
Seattle Danny Fortson
Utah Greg Ostertag
Washington Anthony Peeler

Minimum Salary
Boston Dana Barros, Grant Long
Dallas Vernon Maxwell, Johnny Newman, Walt Williams, Kevin Willis
Denver Wesley Person
Detroit Tony Delk, Danny Manning
Indiana Tyus Edney, Tim Hardaway, Terry Mills, LaSalle Thompson
LA Lakers Horace Grant, Mitch Richmond, John Salley, Brian Shaw
Miami Shandon Anderson, Christian Laettner, Gary Payton, John Wallace, Zhi-zhi Wang
Minnesota Oliver Miller, Sam Mitchell
New Jersey Travis Best, Hubert Davis, Sherman Douglas, Gheorghe Muresan
New York Kelvin Cato, Andrew Lang, Felton Spencer, Bruno Sundov
Philadelphia Rick Mahorn, Derrick McKey
Portland Chris Dudley
San Antonio Glenn Robinson, Nick Van Exel
Washington Chris Whitney

Shawn Bradley is not mentioned on these lists, so obviously he must have been renounced by Dallas.
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2/13/2008  7:57 PM
Some of those guys I haven't heard mentioned in a basketball conversation in years.....thats crazy....stupid ass nba rule.
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2/13/2008  9:33 PM
Excellent deal by the Nets.

I think the Mavs will regret this when they don't get to the Finals. They gave up way too much in this deal. I know the picks probably won't be any good, but by trading them, they are limiting their ability to make other trades down the line to improve their team (or draft some young talent).

I think Harris for Kidd would have been the most NJ could get either way. Dallas overpaid imo.
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