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TMS
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it seems to me the only GM's who are likely to be complaining here are the other contending teams in the league... so let's examine what they could have offered in return for Pau that's realistic:
SA: they got Manu to offer up in a deal... why does MEM need Manu when they already got 2 guys in Miller & Gay who are younger that play the same position? they ain't giving up Parker or Duncan obviously, so what the hell else do they have to offer? Fabricio Oberto? come on Pop, stop the whining... if you don't have anything better to offer than what MEM got then shut yer yapper & deal w/it... they didn't have any contracts to match up to Pau's salary regardless without including 1 of their big 3.
DEN: let's see, MEM could have traded Pau's horrendous contract in exchange for K-Mart or Nene's... that makes perfect sense... i'm sure they woulda been willing to give up Camby too, right? get real... next.
UTA: AK47 & Millsap woulda been a solid trade for Pau... i have to think Utah wasn't offering those guys for Pau, but i could be wrong... none of us knows what type of discussions occurred so it's all speculation... all i know is the deal didn't get done... everyone knew Pau was on the trading block all year so what's Utah's excuse if they had the pieces to get a deal done?
POR: they worked all last year to get back to some semblence of cap flexibility & have their franchise bigman in Oden coming back next year... makes perfect sense for them to make a trade & blow all that up to acquire Pau, doesn't it?
PHO: why does MEM need or want Marion again? the Suns they got their bigman in Shaq after the fact regardless... are they gonna whine now that they made a horrible trade & coulda got Pau instead? i doubt it. i'd much rather take my chances w/Shaq anyway, even w/him being almost ready to call it a career.
GS: they can offer up Al Harrington, Michael Pietrus & Matt Barnes, all of whom are swingmen, & we all know MEM needs more of those... Biedrins is a RFA after this season, so MEM can simply offer him a contract if they want him & still have the picks they got back from the Lakers... funny thing about cap space & picks, they offer a team options, something the Knicks don't have because they're laden down w/so many crap contracts.
DAL: no way would they have given up Josh Howard for Pau, so what else do they have to offer? Jason Terry? come on, let's be real here... why does MEM want a 30 yo Jason Terry when they have Mike Conley who they want to be their franchise PG going forward? Crittendon & picks was a much more sensible option for a rebuilding team... Devin Harris woulda been a nice pickup for MEM to pair w/Conley in their backcourt, but not enough for Pau, unless of course DAL was also throwing in 2 first round picks on top of it... what expiring contracts do they have to match up the dollars tho? Stackhouse? if DAL included Stack in the trade along w/Harris, would they also have been willing to give up those picks? i seriously doubt it... so does a package of Stack, Diop, Harris & a 1st round pick from DAL for example surpass Crittendon, Gasol's draft rights, 2 1st rounders, an expiring & cash for a rebuilding team? i don't think it does.
NO: they're obviously holding onto David West & Tyson Chandler, so they shouldn't even be interested in getting Pau to begin with.
HOU: does MEM want or need T-Mac? what's he gonna do for them other than eat up their cap space for the next 3 years & lead them to mediocrity? so ruling that out, let's see who else the Rockets could have offered... Battier, Head, Sura & Scola? does that trump the deal the Griz got back from the Lakers? the Grizzlies obviously placed more importance on the cap room & picks, & who can blame a rebuilding franchise for that?
TOR: unless they're willing to give up Bargnani there's nothing here to discuss
BOS: blew their gizz on the big 3... next
DET: has some solid young pieces in Maxiell, Aflalo & Stuckey, all the type of players that can easily be acquired w/the picks the Griz got back in the LA trade.
CLE: Larry Hughes ain't gettin' it done, i'm sorry... a package of Gooden, Varejao, Newble's expiring & a pick woulda been a nice package tho... again, was CLE willing to give that up? who knows... it's all speculation at this point.
ORL: they have plenty of expirings to offer in Arroyo, Garrity, Dooling & Mo Evans... would they have included the multiple picks & cash to go w/them? does that trump the package of Crittendon, Gasol, 2 1st rounders, Kwame's expiring & cash the Grizz got back from LA? both teams have similar records so the picks are likely to be around the same range regardless.
WAS: (i'll throw them in there cuz they're just under .500 & may have been desperate for that final piece to take them over the top) Antawn Jamison's expiring is not enough for Pau cuz then where does that leave MEM? it would be a pure salary dump in that case w/no picks or no other benefit going back to the Grizz... stupid move to make... & there's no way the Wiz are trading away Caron Butler or Agent Zero so that ends any discussions right there.
CHI: (i'll throw them in there since there were widespread rumors about a potential Pau swap earlier in the season w/the Bulls) they were obviously in heavy discussions w/the Bulls all year & nothing got done... if the Bulls wanted Pau so much they shoulda stepped up their offer apparently... Gordon, TT, filler & a pick woulda been a nice package but were the Bulls willing to give it up is the question.
so where are all these "better options" the Grizz passed up?
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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