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I Heard a Ruuummor!:Isiah trying to trade Zach for the other O'Neal (again)
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EnySpree
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2/8/2008  12:07 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

RUMOR: I have no link or physical proof but an internal source from the Knicks say the Knicks are trying to aquire Antwon Walker. It could be speculation but if it happens you heard it from Cook.

If that comes true, I'm also going to blame it on the messenger.

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2/8/2008  12:10 PM
Seriously.....

What is Isiah went out and revamped the Knicks to look like this:

Lee
Antoine Walker
Jermaine O'neal
Tinsley
Crawford

after that guys shoots cook....he might as well shoot the rest of us as well.
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2/8/2008  12:19 PM
Please Isiah I beg you if you do nothing else right in your tenure please make NO MORE TRADES!
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2/8/2008  12:47 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

RUMOR: I have no link or physical proof but an internal source from the Knicks say the Knicks are trying to aquire Antwon Walker. It could be speculation but if it happens you heard it from Cook.

If that comes true, I'm also going to blame it on the messenger.

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2/8/2008  1:08 PM
Mike Miller is expecting a trade according to Realgm

New York Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +7.7 ppg, +0.2 rpg, and +6.8 apg.
Incoming Players
Kyle Lowry
6-0 PG from Villanova
8.7 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 3.5 apg in 25.2 minutes
Mike Miller
6-8 SG from Florida
17.0 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 3.7 apg in 37.4 minutes
Jermaine O'Neal
6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
15.3 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 2.5 apg in 31.3 minutes
Outgoing Players
Malik Rose
6-7 PF from Drexel
1.8 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.4 apg in 9.3 minutes
Eddy Curry
6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
14.1 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.5 apg in 26.7 minutes
Zach Randolph
6-9 PF from Michigan State
17.4 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 2.0 apg in 33.5 minutes

Memphis Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -11.6 ppg, -5.1 rpg, and -6.7 apg.
Incoming Players
Eddy Curry
6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
14.1 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.5 apg in 26.7 minutes
Outgoing Players
Kyle Lowry
6-0 PG from Villanova
8.7 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 3.5 apg in 25.2 minutes
Mike Miller
6-8 SG from Florida
17.0 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 3.7 apg in 37.4 minutes

Indiana Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +3.9 ppg, +4.9 rpg, and -0.1 apg.
Incoming Players
Malik Rose
6-7 PF from Drexel
1.8 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.4 apg in 9.3 minutes
Zach Randolph
6-9 PF from Michigan State
17.4 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 2.0 apg in 33.5 minutes
Outgoing Players
Jermaine O'Neal
6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
15.3 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 2.5 apg in 31.3 minutes


O'Neal
Lee
Miller
Crawford
Lowry
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2/8/2008  1:22 PM
Isiah should try his best to improve the Center and small fwd spots...he has no choice.....just as long as he doesn't trade the ****ing pick
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2/8/2008  4:38 PM
u guys are crazy... our biggest need on this team is a defensive presence in the frontcourt & to unload Zach's ridiculous contract... this move would do it in 1 fell swoop... i can't understand the mentality some of you have... let's hold onto Zach Randolph & he's gonna take us to the promised land... wonderful.

if Isiah can get JO from Indy just by giving up Zach & filler expirings like Fred Jones & say Morris, who isn't playing a wink as it is, you do it w/o even batting an eyelash.

unfortunately, i can't imagine a trade for JO that wouldn't also involve taking on Jamaal Tinsley's longterm contract also, which changes the complexion of the trade entirely... if that's the case the only way i do the deal is if i can also unload Curry, Q, Jefferies or Turd in the process, & no way would i even think about including D Lee or Balk.

this would be a much more balanced starting 5 than what we currently have:

C - O'Neal
PF - D Lee
SF - Balkman
SG - Jamal
PG - Tinsley
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2/8/2008  5:08 PM
Posted by joec32033:

Mike Miller is expecting a trade according to Realgm

New York Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +7.7 ppg, +0.2 rpg, and +6.8 apg.
Incoming Players
Kyle Lowry
6-0 PG from Villanova
8.7 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 3.5 apg in 25.2 minutes
Mike Miller
6-8 SG from Florida
17.0 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 3.7 apg in 37.4 minutes
Jermaine O'Neal
6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
15.3 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 2.5 apg in 31.3 minutes
Outgoing Players
Malik Rose
6-7 PF from Drexel
1.8 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.4 apg in 9.3 minutes
Eddy Curry
6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
14.1 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.5 apg in 26.7 minutes
Zach Randolph
6-9 PF from Michigan State
17.4 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 2.0 apg in 33.5 minutes

Memphis Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -11.6 ppg, -5.1 rpg, and -6.7 apg.
Incoming Players
Eddy Curry
6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
14.1 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.5 apg in 26.7 minutes
Outgoing Players
Kyle Lowry
6-0 PG from Villanova
8.7 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 3.5 apg in 25.2 minutes
Mike Miller
6-8 SG from Florida
17.0 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 3.7 apg in 37.4 minutes

Indiana Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +3.9 ppg, +4.9 rpg, and -0.1 apg.
Incoming Players
Malik Rose
6-7 PF from Drexel
1.8 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.4 apg in 9.3 minutes
Zach Randolph
6-9 PF from Michigan State
17.4 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 2.0 apg in 33.5 minutes
Outgoing Players
Jermaine O'Neal
6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
15.3 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 2.5 apg in 31.3 minutes


O'Neal
Lee
Miller
Crawford
Lowry

I like. That trade would bring some hope to this miserable season. Not to do anything this year, but at least getting us in the right direction. If Artest still wants to sign in the off season and we keep our pick, we start to have some options. Still have Idiotbury's expiring too.
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2/8/2008  5:12 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

Isiah should try his best to improve the Center and small fwd spots...he has no choice.....just as long as he doesn't trade the ****ing pick

I'm glad you think we only have two weak links in our starting five.
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2/8/2008  5:16 PM
O'Neal is finished. He is garbage. STOP THE INSANITY.

For as bad as Zach is, I have to think we can somehow do better.

Dolan needs to fire Isiah & get in a GM that hasn't burned bridges with half the GMS & coaches in the NBA.

What if Denver misses out on the artest bibby deal? You think they are picking up the phone for isiah? NO WAY.

And San Antonio? Don't know if they would want any of our players, but the point is about half the league hates isiah, and the other half feel they can screw us in any deal because Isiah has proven you can screw us.

No to Isiah. No to any Isiah trade. No to bringing in Jermaine O'Neal.
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2/8/2008  5:44 PM
Isiah needs to do his absolute best to get both Jermaine and Miller.....

If he could do that......

I would forgive him, lol
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2/8/2008  5:54 PM
Only if he can get jermaine and miller without trading lee and craw of course!
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2/8/2008  5:55 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

Isiah needs to do his absolute best to get both Jermaine and Miller.....

If he could do that......

I would forgive him, lol


How Fickle

Seriously after trades go down we essentially become the Indiana Pacers no thanks to those two guys.
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2/8/2008  7:06 PM
There is no way the Pacers make a trade with Isiah. Not only that, but there is no way the Pacers let JO get his way. The only way I see JO coming here is if the Knicks give up the number 1 pick.
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2/8/2008  7:22 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

Just what we need, more pet players for Isiah to indulge.

The only move that excites me is the one to oust Isiah.

blueseats.. Really is the guy this stubborn? I mean really? he is like a teenager who inherited millions from their parents, I mean he will keep indulging, regardless of the outcome, I mean hasn't he learned that these moves only end up in the shytter?
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2/8/2008  7:25 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

These trades are like constantly shopping for new boots when the feet are gangrene.

We have to get to the point where we are past this:

"Losing is losing," Randolph said after the Knicks practiced yesterday. "It's more (difficult) here with all the distractions, there's a lot of other stuff going on. It makes it that much more difficult to concentrate."

Has there ever been a manager associated with more "other stuff"?

Nothing good will happen here until this other stuff is behind us.

good find..

I think it goes so far beyond the players at this point. I mean, you could bring in lebron and we won't win, simply because the culture around here is just rotten to the core. when players start talking about other distractions, then it just shows you, there is just some bad shyt going on. BAD.. and until Isiah and the rest of that front office and coaches are just flused down the toilet and completly gone, things won't get better. I don't care who you bring in...
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2/8/2008  7:34 PM
For the love of the almightly, Please, it's time to turn the page...No more trades, it's pointless....Isiah needs to be relieved of his duties...He gave it a shot, but he's not the guy for the job...No need making a bad gig worse...As a man, he should have resigned after Annucha...Dolan is a chump for not canning him....The state of the Knicks has to change beginning with Isiah...The players has no respect for him and it's obvious...If Dolan can't eat the money, keep him on as a scout for draft purposes(bad idea keeping him in the organization)...This is really sad and hard to watch...This just can't continue like this...I still watch every game rooting for the team but my disdain for isiah is approaching LB levels...This is really sad...
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2/8/2008  7:37 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

Isiah needs to do his absolute best to get both Jermaine and Miller.....

If he could do that......

I would forgive him, lol

Man you must be high when you post here. Neither of those do anything to significantly help the team.
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2/8/2008  7:37 PM
Posted by franco12:

O'Neal is finished. He is garbage. STOP THE INSANITY.

For as bad as Zach is, I have to think we can somehow do better.

in exchange for Zach? who are we gonna get that's better?

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2/8/2008  7:40 PM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by EnySpree:

Isiah needs to do his absolute best to get both Jermaine and Miller.....

If he could do that......

I would forgive him, lol

Man you must be high when you post here. Neither of those do anything to significantly help the team.

maybe not but if we can unload 1 year off Zach's contract it's worth the trouble, no? where are we going if we stand pat as it is? if the overall product won't improve after trading for JO then at the very least we can get out from about $30 mil in contract & luxury tax savings in the final year of Zach's contract.
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I Heard a Ruuummor!:Isiah trying to trade Zach for the other O'Neal (again)

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