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List of Knicks presumed to want out-As per Vescey
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BlueSeats
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2/5/2008  1:35 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:

This is all Anti-Knick propaganda. No way those players want off this team.

This crew believes in, and is inspired by Cap'n Zeke. Zeke is up on deck navigating the ship through treacherous seas. The crew is down below, feverishly bailing water to keep the ship afloat. The rats are deserting in droves. Good riddance! They will be sorry when Zeke steers a course to calmer seas, finds a supply of drinkable water and some citrus fruit to cure the crew's scurvy. Then - WATCH OUT! These Knicks are gonna make some noise.


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Swishfm3
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2/5/2008  4:31 PM
Posted by King1:

You have one person on the team you can trade and get shorter contract back and a good player that is Lee. The knicks are stuck with everyone else and if I was Dolan I would keep IT on until all the contract run out. There is no GM that can come in and clean this up without a minimum of three years being bad

exactamundo

The knicks have long term, overpaid players. The only way to get rid of them is to trade for other long term, over paid players.

The Knicks can always release players like James, Rose and Richardson, but doing that will not help our salary cap. We have a good team and good players...what we dont have is a good coaching staff. I.Thomas is a terrible coach. I personally dont care if Thomas remains as a GM, but DOLAN needs to fire him as coach and bring in someone who knows what their doing on the bench.
Bippity10
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2/5/2008  5:29 PM
I'm willing to bet that every player on that roster would be happy to get out of here right now. The team needs some new blood. Isiah's time has run it's course.

On a side note: How in the world does this guy still have his job?
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K22
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2/5/2008  6:00 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

On a side note: How in the world does this guy still have his job?

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tkf
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2/5/2008  6:15 PM
Posted by Swishfm3:
Posted by King1:

You have one person on the team you can trade and get shorter contract back and a good player that is Lee. The knicks are stuck with everyone else and if I was Dolan I would keep IT on until all the contract run out. There is no GM that can come in and clean this up without a minimum of three years being bad

exactamundo

The knicks have long term, overpaid players. The only way to get rid of them is to trade for other long term, over paid players.

The Knicks can always release players like James, Rose and Richardson, but doing that will not help our salary cap. We have a good team and good players...what we dont have is a good coaching staff. I.Thomas is a terrible coach. I personally dont care if Thomas remains as a GM, but DOLAN needs to fire him as coach and bring in someone who knows what their doing on the bench.


nah, keeping Isiah on in any capacity is still a bad Idea. We have a few good players swish, but we don't have a good team, that we don't have.... Our coaching staff sucks also. what needs to be done is a complete front office purge. That would be the first place to start, then bring in a good basketball person to make good, sound decisions about the remaining players we have, who needs to go, and who is staying....
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EnySpree
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2/5/2008  6:20 PM
Posted by majorleads:

Not only do the players want out, the fans want out too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pretty much. Why keep whining you know?

We are just as sick as the franchise.
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knicks1248
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2/5/2008  6:23 PM
I couldn't care less, It's so obvious that they have tune the coach out and he has tune the players out.
In our last 6 losses not one time did Isiah seem interested when his team was losing leads. Yesterday was the worst, I paid close attention to thomas during the 20-4 run the clips went on, during that span IT got up one time to argue a pitiful call..oh im sorry he ask the ref about the call. By the time the lead dwindled to 2, he finally called a time out spoke with the other coaches drew up a play that resulted in a turnover. No energy, no laser like focus, just deppression and misery, on the faces of the coach the players.
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oohah
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2/5/2008  6:31 PM
People wanting to trade lee for a draft pick people calling the kid a role player.

Lee is a role player. If you don't understand that then you don't know what a role player is. He does the dirty work of rebounding and cleaning up garbage shots very well. He is unskilled offensively and his defense is poor. He does what he does well but he is limited. A player like that is the very definition of a role player.

You act as if that is an insult. It is simply accurate, and good role players like Lee are very valuable to a team, more so to a good team than a bad team like the Knicks.

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knicks1248
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2/5/2008  6:37 PM
Posted by oohah:
People wanting to trade lee for a draft pick people calling the kid a role player.

Lee is a role player. If you don't understand that then you don't know what a role player is. He does the dirty work of rebounding and cleaning up garbage shots very well. He is unskilled offensively and his defense is poor. He does what he does well but he is limited. A player like that is the very definition of a role player.

You act as if that is an insult. It is simply accurate, and good role players like Lee are very valuable to a team, more so to a good team than a bad team like the Knicks.

oohah

I agree 100%...is camby a role player?
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Siar617
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2/5/2008  6:42 PM
why do any of you care what peter vecey says
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oohah
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2/5/2008  7:09 PM
Posted by knicks1248:
Posted by oohah:
People wanting to trade lee for a draft pick people calling the kid a role player.

Lee is a role player. If you don't understand that then you don't know what a role player is. He does the dirty work of rebounding and cleaning up garbage shots very well. He is unskilled offensively and his defense is poor. He does what he does well but he is limited. A player like that is the very definition of a role player.

You act as if that is an insult. It is simply accurate, and good role players like Lee are very valuable to a team, more so to a good team than a bad team like the Knicks.

oohah

I agree 100%...is camby a role player?

David Lee is not really comparable to Marcus Camby.

Camby is a much better rebounder than Lee, he gets not quite as many putbacks, he changes the game on defense with his shotblocking, He can guard 3 different positions, and while he isn't a good shooter, he is much better at shooting from the outside than Lee.

Camby was a role player earlier in his career, but he has much more talent than Lee (And a lot of other players) and he has put in the work to round out his game so he can offer more than just rebounding and shot-blocking.

Camby certainly has improved since he got traded.

oohah

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List of Knicks presumed to want out-As per Vescey

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