Posted by newyorknewyork:
Haslem averaged 49fg% 68ft% 10pts 8rebs in 31mins last season.
Lee averaged 60fg% 81ft% 10pts 10rebs 29mins last season.
Haslem averages 47.5fg% 79ft%, 9rebs, 12pts in 37mins this season
Lee averagages 55fg%, 80ft%, 8rebs, 10pts in 27mins this season.
He averages 2 less pts, 1 less rebound in 10 less mins. Plus he comes off the bench behind Zach Randolph while Haslem is the starter on Miami. Plus the fact that Haslem has had the luxary of playing along side of Shaq.
Not only is Lee more productive per mins than Haslem. What really seperates him from Haslem is his intangibles. Then we could look at physical attributes. Lee is 6-9 249, Haslem is 6'8 230. Lee also has more athletism than Haslem. So Lee is basically bigger, more atheltic, and more intangible than Haslem. As well as more productive per mins than Haslem.
On a side note. If Randolph had a higher basketball IQ. Which would probably help him drastically in the team concept of basketball he would be a great player.
New York,
You're comparing numbers in a vacuum, you have to look at what they do, not just straight stats.
Haslem steps outside and routinely knocks down 15 footers which helps open up the floor for Wade and Shaq. The defense can't just leave Haslem like they do Lee. If Lee steps more than 5 feet from the basket he doesn't do much of anything. It's great that Lee stays within himself, but that accounts for Lee's high field goal percentage and the extra rebounds compared to Haslem. If Lee shoots 5 15-footers a game, that would be 5 more missed shots and a couple less rebounds per game. There goes the great rebound average and shooting percentage.
Intangibles: Haslem plays good D, Lee plays horrible defense. Haslem provides a viable alternative offensive threat so teams can't just leave him and double Shaq or Wade, Lee is not guarded a lot of the time. Both are known for making scrappy plays.
Athleticism: Lee is more athletic by a good margin, but it hasn't translated into anything but rebounds and dunks. Certainly not defense.
Wins: Haslem has been a starter on a championship team and has been on a winning team 4 out of his 5 years in the NBA. Is it luck? Partially. But the other part is that he has been able to contribute in many different ways: rebounding, shooting, defense, and hustle. At this point, Lee only contributes rebounding and (offensive) hustle.
I'll give you a good example.: By all accounts, Lee had a great game last night vs. the Blazers. But down the stretch he was ineffective. The Blazers double teamed Randolph and Crawford and totally shut down the Knicks' offense. If we had Haslem out there instead of Lee, Haslem would have feasted on 10-15 foot jumpers and he would have played some defense to boot.
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