The last drops of Knicks blood in my body is slowly oozing out. It's unbelievable that I now watch AND look forward to EVERY Bobcats game...and the Bobcats aren't even that good!!! Now whenever the Knicks and Cats are on during the same night, I'll watch the Bobcats and when thats over, I'll watch the tape of the Knicks game...fast forwarding through most of it.

I recommend every Knicks fan adopt another team. The feeling is exhilarating.

And the way the Garden treats the media and their fans is disgusting. Dolan is such a moron and doesn't understand that the more you treat the media bad and cover everything up, the more the media will bash you AND fill in the blanks because you refuse to tell the truth. Idiot Dolan, dummy doesn't even realize he's responsible for every story that bashes the Knicks. Just tell the truth you idiot.

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The last drops of Knicks blood in my body is slowly oozing out. It's unbelievable that I now watch AND look forward to EVERY Bobcats game...and the Bobcats aren't even that good!!! Now whenever the Knicks and Cats are on during the same night, I'll watch the Bobcats and when thats over, I'll watch the tape of the Knicks game...fast forwarding through most of it.

I recommend every Knicks fan adopt another team. The feeling is exhilarating.

And the way the Garden treats the media and their fans is disgusting. Dolan is such a moron and doesn't understand that the more you treat the media bad and cover everything up, the more the media will bash you AND fill in the blanks because you refuse to tell the truth. Idiot Dolan, dummy doesn't even realize he's responsible for every story that bashes the Knicks. Just tell the truth you idiot.

I have had hawks season tickets 2 of the last 4 years.....

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Posted by majorleads:

The last drops of Knicks blood in my body is slowly oozing out. It's unbelievable that I now watch AND look forward to EVERY Bobcats game...and the Bobcats aren't even that good!!! Now whenever the Knicks and Cats are on during the same night, I'll watch the Bobcats and when thats over, I'll watch the tape of the Knicks game...fast forwarding through most of it.

I recommend every Knicks fan adopt another team. The feeling is exhilarating.

And the way the Garden treats the media and their fans is disgusting. Dolan is such a moron and doesn't understand that the more you treat the media bad and cover everything up, the more the media will bash you AND fill in the blanks because you refuse to tell the truth. Idiot Dolan, dummy doesn't even realize he's responsible for every story that bashes the Knicks. Just tell the truth you idiot.

I have had hawks season tickets 2 of the last 4 years.....

I watch the GSW, the downside is the majority of their games start times are 7:30p.m.pst. So their games start after the Knicks, therefore I'm pretty much forced to watch the BRICKERBOCKERS. I also watch the Raptors quite often. To tell you the truth in this day and age, the structure of the NBA/CBA, it's really hard to stay stuck on one team and be loyal. If you really think about it most of us are fans of the team not really by choice but because of place of birth/locality and tradition. It's cool to like a team because they are home town or because your great great great grandpa started the fan lineage taking one of the seeds to the first Knick game and a bond/relationship was established. But times are changing. I find myself watching teams that portray my personality or plays the game in a way that represents what I'm about. Not to mention the affect certain players have on you as a fan of the game. I'm finding my love for the game of basketball trumps all. It's such a beautiful sport when played right and with excitement. Nothing comes close to it IMO. Like how can you not like a player like Chris Paul or Joe Johnson or Steve Nash? You root for these guys uncontrollably, you can't help it. Seriously would any one claim their Knick Fanfare if we constantly fielded a team full of Vin and Juice Baker? Well I guess we are fielding a team of Kentucky Fried Curry but you get the point. I just feel tradition as the yrs go by becomes an enslavement so to speak, like you had no other choice. We live our lives based on choices and freedom to have them. The downside to giving up is no one wants to bandwagon but once again stars don't even stay on one team their whole career. Take for instance today we had a thread trashing Paul Pierce because of his punk displays on the court but let's say I SAY UGH trades Lee, Q, Jones for Pierce everyone would be jocking him like he was All That. All his Diva crap goes out the window once he dons orange and blue. Heck even NBA player kids don't like their dads as their favorite player nor the team their dad plays on.


With all that being said this Franchise makes it almost impossible to root for them.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-22-2008 11:47 PM]

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by majorleads:

The last drops of Knicks blood in my body is slowly oozing out. It's unbelievable that I now watch AND look forward to EVERY Bobcats game...and the Bobcats aren't even that good!!! Now whenever the Knicks and Cats are on during the same night, I'll watch the Bobcats and when thats over, I'll watch the tape of the Knicks game...fast forwarding through most of it.

I recommend every Knicks fan adopt another team. The feeling is exhilarating.

And the way the Garden treats the media and their fans is disgusting. Dolan is such a moron and doesn't understand that the more you treat the media bad and cover everything up, the more the media will bash you AND fill in the blanks because you refuse to tell the truth. Idiot Dolan, dummy doesn't even realize he's responsible for every story that bashes the Knicks. Just tell the truth you idiot.

I have had hawks season tickets 2 of the last 4 years.....

I watch the GSW, the downside is the majority of their games start times are 7:30p.m.pst. So their games start after the Knicks, therefore I'm pretty much forced to watch the BRICKERBOCKERS. I also watch the Raptors quite often. To tell you the truth in this day and age, the structure of the NBA/CBA, it's really hard to stay stuck on one team and be loyal. If you really think about it most of us are fans of the team not really by choice but because of place of birth/locality and tradition. It's cool to like a team because they are home town or because your great great great grandpa started the fan lineage taking one of the seeds to the first Knick game and a bond/relationship was established. But times are changing. I find myself watching teams that portray my personality or plays the game in a way that represents what I'm about. Not to mention the affect certain players have on you as a fan of the game. I'm finding my love for the game of basketball trumps all. It's such a beautiful sport when played right and with excitement. Nothing comes close to it IMO. Like how can you not like a player like Chris Paul or Joe Johnson or Steve Nash? You root for these guys uncontrollably, you can't help it. Seriously would any one claim their Knick Fanfare if we constantly fielded a team full of Vin and Juice Baker? Well I guess we are fielding a team of Kentucky Fried Curry but you get the point. I just feel tradition as the yrs go by becomes an enslavement so to speak, like you had no other choice. We live our lives based on choices and freedom to have them. The downside to giving up is no one wants to bandwagon but once again stars don't even stay on one team their whole career. Take for instance today we had a thread trashing Paul Pierce because of his punk displays on the court but let's say I SAY UGH trades Lee, Q, Jones for Pierce everyone would be jocking him like he was All That. All his Diva crap goes out the window once he dons orange and blue. Heck even NBA player kids don't like their dads as their favorite player nor the team their dad plays on.


With all that being said this Franchise makes it almost impossible to root for them.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-22-2008 11:47 PM]

Having NBA League Pass and playing Fantasy basketball helps more than you can imagine. The perfect medicine for rotten knick play.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by majorleads:

The last drops of Knicks blood in my body is slowly oozing out. It's unbelievable that I now watch AND look forward to EVERY Bobcats game...and the Bobcats aren't even that good!!! Now whenever the Knicks and Cats are on during the same night, I'll watch the Bobcats and when thats over, I'll watch the tape of the Knicks game...fast forwarding through most of it.

I recommend every Knicks fan adopt another team. The feeling is exhilarating.

And the way the Garden treats the media and their fans is disgusting. Dolan is such a moron and doesn't understand that the more you treat the media bad and cover everything up, the more the media will bash you AND fill in the blanks because you refuse to tell the truth. Idiot Dolan, dummy doesn't even realize he's responsible for every story that bashes the Knicks. Just tell the truth you idiot.

I have had hawks season tickets 2 of the last 4 years.....

I watch the GSW, the downside is the majority of their games start times are 7:30p.m.pst. So their games start after the Knicks, therefore I'm pretty much forced to watch the BRICKERBOCKERS. I also watch the Raptors quite often. To tell you the truth in this day and age, the structure of the NBA/CBA, it's really hard to stay stuck on one team and be loyal. If you really think about it most of us are fans of the team not really by choice but because of place of birth/locality and tradition. It's cool to like a team because they are home town or because your great great great grandpa started the fan lineage taking one of the seeds to the first Knick game and a bond/relationship was established. But times are changing. I find myself watching teams that portray my personality or plays the game in a way that represents what I'm about. Not to mention the affect certain players have on you as a fan of the game. I'm finding my love for the game of basketball trumps all. It's such a beautiful sport when played right and with excitement. Nothing comes close to it IMO. Like how can you not like a player like Chris Paul or Joe Johnson or Steve Nash? You root for these guys uncontrollably, you can't help it. Seriously would any one claim their Knick Fanfare if we constantly fielded a team full of Vin and Juice Baker? Well I guess we are fielding a team of Kentucky Fried Curry but you get the point. I just feel tradition as the yrs go by becomes an enslavement so to speak, like you had no other choice. We live our lives based on choices and freedom to have them. The downside to giving up is no one wants to bandwagon but once again stars don't even stay on one team their whole career. Take for instance today we had a thread trashing Paul Pierce because of his punk displays on the court but let's say I SAY UGH trades Lee, Q, Jones for Pierce everyone would be jocking him like he was All That. All his Diva crap goes out the window once he dons orange and blue. Heck even NBA player kids don't like their dads as their favorite player nor the team their dad plays on.


With all that being said this Franchise makes it almost impossible to root for them.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-22-2008 11:47 PM]

Excellent post. I got the league pass the first year it came out, that is the main reason I got satellite. I agree with your point. I have been a knick fan since I was 8, my hero on the knicks growing up was bernard king, I was a teenager then, but I just loved what this guy was about, I loved Ewing, but not as much as Bernard, Larry Johnson was another favorite of mine, as well as Allan Houston. What these guys had in common besides talent was integrity, desire, and a will not to cheat themselves or their fans... As you said, sometimes we become slaves to teams where we live and that is sometimes unfortunate. I watch a lot of games, that is why I think I am free to speak on a lot of players, I spend a ton of time watching other games, it is what I do. As you said, basketball when played the right way is the best sport in the world if you ask me.. this is why I love watching the suns, if anything, they re-introduced the fast paced style and actually have a system with players that fit that system... Guys like nash, Joe johnson, caron butler, I love those guys, they play the game, the right way..

I was looking at a old game I taped, it was the knicks when they had Sprewell, Houston, childs, camby, LJ and a declining Ewing... I look at that team, and that whole starting 5, with the exception of childs(and he was a tough cookie) was better than every player on this current knick team. I think people forget how good of a player spree was, and how much of a professional Houston was, and how much of a talent camby was, and How much of a real leader LJ was.. wow, that guy was a leader. 1999 was one of the best year in basketball for me to watch. Watching those guys do what they did, was so much fun... Believe it or not Blue, but that was just 8 years ago, but it seems like an eternity.. this is what rooting for this franchise over the past 5 years has done. It has almost rotted our memory of what good basketball was.... Yes, it is hard to be a fan... The CBA handcuffs GM's to their mistakes as well as the fans.. I think they are going to have to restructure that, as well as reduce the years of guaranteed deals.. It is going to destroy this league...

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by majorleads:

The last drops of Knicks blood in my body is slowly oozing out. It's unbelievable that I now watch AND look forward to EVERY Bobcats game...and the Bobcats aren't even that good!!! Now whenever the Knicks and Cats are on during the same night, I'll watch the Bobcats and when thats over, I'll watch the tape of the Knicks game...fast forwarding through most of it.

I recommend every Knicks fan adopt another team. The feeling is exhilarating.

And the way the Garden treats the media and their fans is disgusting. Dolan is such a moron and doesn't understand that the more you treat the media bad and cover everything up, the more the media will bash you AND fill in the blanks because you refuse to tell the truth. Idiot Dolan, dummy doesn't even realize he's responsible for every story that bashes the Knicks. Just tell the truth you idiot.

I have had hawks season tickets 2 of the last 4 years.....

I watch the GSW, the downside is the majority of their games start times are 7:30p.m.pst. So their games start after the Knicks, therefore I'm pretty much forced to watch the BRICKERBOCKERS. I also watch the Raptors quite often. To tell you the truth in this day and age, the structure of the NBA/CBA, it's really hard to stay stuck on one team and be loyal. If you really think about it most of us are fans of the team not really by choice but because of place of birth/locality and tradition. It's cool to like a team because they are home town or because your great great great grandpa started the fan lineage taking one of the seeds to the first Knick game and a bond/relationship was established. But times are changing. I find myself watching teams that portray my personality or plays the game in a way that represents what I'm about. Not to mention the affect certain players have on you as a fan of the game. I'm finding my love for the game of basketball trumps all. It's such a beautiful sport when played right and with excitement. Nothing comes close to it IMO. Like how can you not like a player like Chris Paul or Joe Johnson or Steve Nash? You root for these guys uncontrollably, you can't help it. Seriously would any one claim their Knick Fanfare if we constantly fielded a team full of Vin and Juice Baker? Well I guess we are fielding a team of Kentucky Fried Curry but you get the point. I just feel tradition as the yrs go by becomes an enslavement so to speak, like you had no other choice. We live our lives based on choices and freedom to have them. The downside to giving up is no one wants to bandwagon but once again stars don't even stay on one team their whole career. Take for instance today we had a thread trashing Paul Pierce because of his punk displays on the court but let's say I SAY UGH trades Lee, Q, Jones for Pierce everyone would be jocking him like he was All That. All his Diva crap goes out the window once he dons orange and blue. Heck even NBA player kids don't like their dads as their favorite player nor the team their dad plays on.


With all that being said this Franchise makes it almost impossible to root for them.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-22-2008 11:47 PM]

Excellent post. I got the league pass the first year it came out, that is the main reason I got satellite. I agree with your point. I have been a knick fan since I was 8, my hero on the knicks growing up was bernard king, I was a teenager then, but I just loved what this guy was about, I loved Ewing, but not as much as Bernard, Larry Johnson was another favorite of mine, as well as Allan Houston. What these guys had in common besides talent was integrity, desire, and a will not to cheat themselves or their fans... As you said, sometimes we become slaves to teams where we live and that is sometimes unfortunate. I watch a lot of games, that is why I think I am free to speak on a lot of players, I spend a ton of time watching other games, it is what I do. As you said, basketball when played the right way is the best sport in the world if you ask me.. this is why I love watching the suns, if anything, they re-introduced the fast paced style and actually have a system with players that fit that system... Guys like nash, Joe johnson, caron butler, I love those guys, they play the game, the right way..

I was looking at a old game I taped, it was the knicks when they had Sprewell, Houston, childs, camby, LJ and a declining Ewing... I look at that team, and that whole starting 5, with the exception of childs(and he was a tough cookie) was better than every player on this current knick team. I think people forget how good of a player spree was, and how much of a professional Houston was, and how much of a talent camby was, and How much of a real leader LJ was.. wow, that guy was a leader. 1999 was one of the best year in basketball for me to watch. Watching those guys do what they did, was so much fun... Believe it or not Blue, but that was just 8 years ago, but it seems like an eternity.. this is what rooting for this franchise over the past 5 years has done. It has almost rotted our memory of what good basketball was.... Yes, it is hard to be a fan... The CBA handcuffs GM's to their mistakes as well as the fans.. I think they are going to have to restructure that, as well as reduce the years of guaranteed deals.. It is going to destroy this league...

I remember Spree and L.J.'s talents moreso with their first teams than when on the Knicks... GSW and Charlotte. But I remember their leadership, hardnose championship caliber play as Knicks. These two commercials were Classics when basketball was still good. The old Knicks teams would blow the current Knicks team worst than the Celtics did this season.

Sprewell with Webber


Larry Johnson

Larry Brown was senile, addled, and confused - he had to be to sign both Jalen Rose and Steve Francis - so of course he was imagining things like spies and ownership/upper-management incompetence.

TKF you copped kicks from me you know I don't live in Cali! I live in a Central Time Zone. Funny you should mention Payton that guy was an absolute monster in his prime. The best 2way guard of the 90's next to Jordan. I remember about 4yrs ago he made Brevin Knight cry when they played the Bobcats I believe or it could have been Cleveland. So bad that Brevin ended up getting ejected, I think that same yr he got Lamar Odom tossed also. Lamar even made post game comments along the lines of "That's how people get hurt in real life because their mouth gets them in trouble, I've never been disrespected that bad in my life on the court". Prime GP was slept on by so many fans.



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-23-2008 10:18 PM]

yeha - I suppose your right - the highest paid coach in the NBA - really didn't want Jalen Rose (who played for him in Indiana) and didn't want Steve francis to show up Marbury. Yeah - it was all Dolan and Isiah. Antonio Davis - also - after all there was such a crying need for J. Rose and Francis considering you had EXACT duplicates in Crawford and Marbury.