No thanks. Even though it balances the roster somewhat, Vince Carter is 30 and Zach Randolph is 26.

Wow trading Randolph for Vince just makes our current problem a bigger problem. Vince is not even close to being the player that he was just 2 years ago when he first came to the Nets. While Vince still puts that explosiveness that he once had on display every once in awhile, he's become nothing but a jumpshooter. We don't need the 4 years of the current and fading Vince Carter.

If these are the types of trades Isiah is trying to make, I'm really scared. It's one thing to go get Bibby since he only has 1 year left on his deal but it's a completely different thing to get a guy like Vince who has 4 years left. Scary.

nyk, Vince's last year is a team option, so in essence it runs the same length as Zach's contract.

I bet vince would play well for the first 20 games or so if he got traded.

Then, he'd realize he can still collect his checks and not play hard, and go back to being wince.

bitty, i haven't completely given up hope of Zach working out here & i have always believed Zach to be a talented player in his own right, but right now as it stands there's no way he & Curry can effectively coexist & help this team improve over the longhaul... 1 of them has to go & needs to be replaced w/a defensive minded shotblocking big.

trust isn't gonna make things work here for this Zach/Curry frontcourt... we gotta achieve some sort of team balance.

Bitty loved the Wince Carter :)

Randolph should get the benfit of the doubt for his first year. As people have mentioned and as his numbers support- the guy is a legitimate double/double guy -despite less minutes. Also - look to the Nets game- he was never dominant, never seemed to want the ball much and yet came out with 24/11. I have written in a another post - that since we do have him (a hybrid center of Curry?Randolph) really does help the Knicks -because surely everyone would like a center that gets 30 points and 15 rebounds a game (which combined Curry/Randolph) are quite capable of getting on most nights.

This allows Lee to get on the floor who along with Crawford/Nate provide enough offense to keep the team in games. Lee also provides just enough defense as well that when you add in Jeffrries/Balkman - you have just enough defense on your team to stop one dominant wing player (take your pick from the recent games - Caron Bultler/Tayshaun Prince/Le Bron James/Vince Carter. They are all gonna get points but the extra work they have to put in to getting points really pays off in the fourth quarter- when they are tired forom being harrassed by Balkman/Jeffries for most of the game.

With out Randolph - this doesn't work - if he doesn't play center and instead ends up splitting minutes with Lee at the power forward slot. The offense falls of signifcantly - as there is no back up center that represents any threat on the knicks bench whch allows them to play. 'inside out'. This is his value- that e can slide over tot he center position - allowing Curry rest, allowing Lee to play and still be a force at the center position - atleast offensively.

Conversely this becomes a problem against dominant centers like Yao Ming or a dominant PF like Bosh/KG. But still - if the concept is 'team' - we can make up for it - if Nate/Crawford/Randolph + Q/Jones - help out and shoot well.