Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by nysportsfan11:

He does have bone spurs but he could play through them the same way he always has. He's just being a punk. He went a whole year in '02 with them and was just fine. This is a guy who used to take pride in his durability and play through anything. He's had foot problems his whole life, just like anyone else who's taken a pounding on asphalt every day coming up playing ball in the playground.

The issue now is he wants to be back on the court by the start of next season because, you guessed it, it'll be a contract year. He's not slick. Like he's been telling everyone...he knows he's done with the Knicks. It's just an F-U on the way out. This cat was up in the locker room watching tv during the game. Him and Isiah were made for each other. The wrong Marbury made the L. It should have been Norm or Eric. Both had more heart in their thumbs than Steph ever had.

Why should anyone play through severe pain to help a team reach 25 wins? If he's in pain, I won't blame him for having surgery. I think anyone would.

Posted by Cosmic:

Posted by martin:

Posted by nysportsfan11:

He does have bone spurs but he could play through them the same way he always has. He's just being a punk. He went a whole year in '02 with them and was just fine. This is a guy who used to take pride in his durability and play through anything. He's had foot problems his whole life, just like anyone else who's taken a pounding on asphalt every day coming up playing ball in the playground.

The issue now is he wants to be back on the court by the start of next season because, you guessed it, it'll be a contract year. He's not slick. Like he's been telling everyone...he knows he's done with the Knicks. It's just an F-U on the way out. This cat was up in the locker room watching tv during the game. Him and Isiah were made for each other. The wrong Marbury made the L. It should have been Norm or Eric. Both had more heart in their thumbs than Steph ever had.

Here's what I don't get. Isiah did Marbury a HUGE favor by bringing him to the Knicks. And then rotating 3 or more coaches out the door cause he didn't like them. Turned over the roster to get players he thought Marbury would like and shoved out players that got in his way. Helped him get on the Olympic team.

This can't all be over the LA Clip non-start can it? What went wrong?

When Marbury first came here he was allowed to be Starbury and that took us to the playoffs.

Isiah then made too many trades and Marbury for whatever reason was asked to sacrifice his game. Bringing in Crawful finalized the fact that Crawful would be the gunner and eventually even the primary ballhandler (why, I have no idea...) and Marbury would be phased out and turned into Eric Snow.

It's really mind boggling that this is what transpired but it did.

Charles Oakley said it best a couple of years ago while taking in a game at the Garden the year after we got swept by the Nets in the playoffs "You have to bring in players that will play with Steph and not fight Steph."

Oakley plainly saw that Isiah was bringing in more gunners and ball dominant players and that was NOT the way to reap the reward of a player like Marbury.


I'm done with Marbury, I'm not going to sit here and pretend we'd have gone places if we stuck with that game plan when he first came here, but I think it's indisputable we would have been a much better team and probably in the playoffs each year if we kept things as was: Marbury dominating, and role players like Kurt, KVH, Doleac, Deke doing the dirty work and getting theirs when it came.

But NOOOOOOOOO Isiah had to be like a kid on NBA LIVE and it screwed everything up.


I mean, we're watching part two right now: Zach Randolph has destroyed what Eddy Curry was brought here to do. We were playing .500 ball with Eddy being force fed and this year I see no reason why - without trading for Randolph - we could not have been a .500 team THIS year. Again, not really going places, but - definitely looking a LOT BETTER.


Isiah Thomas is to blame and why he destroyed the career of his coveted franchise PG is beyond logic.



Marbury is a baby, no doubt, and he's done here, but Isiah had a big hand in that with his STUPID constant trading for gunner after gunner and his STUPID idea that he could turn Marbury into an Eric Snow on Roids. ISIAH THOMAS IS A FUCKING DUMBASS.

Nothing else needs to be said.....

Posted by TMS:




they both deserve each other... Isiah didn't make Marbury into a knucklehead... that's how he came here... he treated his chance of a lifetime like it was his own personal playtime, & he has no one else to blame for that but himself... Isiah ruined this franchise w/many of his moronic trades & signings, & he's tarnished the credibility & reputation w/the pisspoor example he's set for these players w/his inexcusable off the court behavior... Marbury did much of the same w/his horrific selfish tendencies & constant conflicts w/teammates & coaches.

Posted by nysportsfan11:
The wrong Marbury made the L. It should have been Norm or Eric. Both had more heart in their thumbs than Steph ever had.

Posted by martin:

Here's what I don't get. Isiah did Marbury a HUGE favor by bringing him to the Knicks. And then rotating 3 or more coaches out the door cause he didn't like them. Turned over the roster to get players he thought Marbury would like and shoved out players that got in his way. Helped him get on the Olympic team.

This can't all be over the LA Clip non-start can it? What went wrong?

Posted by BasketballJones:

Posted by martin:

Here's what I don't get. Isiah did Marbury a HUGE favor by bringing him to the Knicks. And then rotating 3 or more coaches out the door cause he didn't like them. Turned over the roster to get players he thought Marbury would like and shoved out players that got in his way. Helped him get on the Olympic team.

This can't all be over the LA Clip non-start can it? What went wrong?

Isiah had to try to coach Marbury.

Posted by SlimPack: