Posted by kam77:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by djsunyc:
baseball turning a blind eye to steriods in the 90's (either knowingly or unknowingly) turned out to be a smart fiscal move as the homerun chase of 98 resurrected the game. and even after game of shadows and all that stuff, ratings are higher, attendance is higher, and they are making a ton of money.
ultimately, it's a business and despite the negative PR, their business is booming.
yep, Selig & MLB profitted heavily by turning a blind eye to roids in the 90's... now they're persecuting the very players that helped to put the sport back on top in this country for doing the very thing they basically didn't say a damn thing about to do it... being an enabler is almost as bad as doing the drugs yourself... then to stand on top of your soap box after the fact & then cry foul on those who you were enabling to begin with is even more despicable... i have no respect for Bud Selig & his hypocricy.
on ARod, no one really knows if he's clean or not, just like no one knows if Pedro Martinez, Derek Jeter, Curt Schilling, Josh Beckett or anyone else in this game is for that matter... but for argument's sake, say if ARod is clean, then all the records he's destined to break in the coming years will have been even MORE impressive when you consider the fact that he was going up against competition that was juiced on a regular basis.
I can make the same arguement for Barry Bonds... look he hit 73 homers against pitchers who were juiced. If A-rod hits 75 against non-juiced pitchers, that's not more impressive necessarily.
The #s mean nothing anymore. If you want to follow the game for Ws and Ls and stuff like that... i don't think that much has changed. But the #s don't mean anything anymore.
i don't disagree... i've argued in the past that u can't point a finger at Bonds & his accomplishments when more than half the pitchers he was likely facing while he was achieving those records were likely on the juice... & ur right, the numbers don't mean as much anymore because everything is tainted, but again i said if ARod is clean then his #'s are even more impressive, just as they would if Bonds was clean all this time... but let's face it, the latter is a lot less likely considering the sudden change in body mass Bonds undertook during a short span between his alleged "clean" years & his "juiced up" years along w/the sudden & drastic spike in his offensive #'s... he's also been convicted of perjury by Congress... if Rocket ends up sharing the same fate he's pretty much in the same boat as he is... there'd be no defending either of them then, but still doesn't mean i'd take their HOF credentials away from them because i think both were HOF players before the alleged use took place.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
