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1/13/2008  7:25 PM
Posted by King1:

Holfresh your the only person on this board that heard David say he could score 20 points if he got 17 shots. The press would have ate that quote up, and we heard nothing. David hasnt said anything to the press controversial in 3 years and I dont think you will ever hear him say something like that.

Haven't heard the new quote but he has said at least one stupid thing in his 3 years here. That comment about how Larry Brown was too negative for the team was stupid. Especially as a rookie.
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1/13/2008  7:28 PM
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Posted by bitty41:

King,

What are you trying to prove exactly? Everyone here pretty much agrees that the Knicks suck and will continue to suck under Isiah's reign so regardless of whose on the floor whether its Lee, Curry, Randolph, Morris, Balkman, Jefferies etc the team continues to lose. You've gotten your wish Lee's minutes have gone up significantly and Randolph's minutes have decreased but guess what *dramatic pause* the Knicks continue to lose.

Lee's minutes have not gone up. He's averaging 28 mpg this month and his season average is 27 mpg.

Relax I was talking about the most recent games.

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1/13/2008  7:34 PM
Posted by bitty41:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by bitty41:

King,

What are you trying to prove exactly? Everyone here pretty much agrees that the Knicks suck and will continue to suck under Isiah's reign so regardless of whose on the floor whether its Lee, Curry, Randolph, Morris, Balkman, Jefferies etc the team continues to lose. You've gotten your wish Lee's minutes have gone up significantly and Randolph's minutes have decreased but guess what *dramatic pause* the Knicks continue to lose.

Lee's minutes have not gone up. He's averaging 28 mpg this month and his season average is 27 mpg.

Relax I was talking about the most recent games.
How recent are you talking about? How small a sample are your relying on then when you you say the "Knicks continue to lose"
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1/13/2008  7:35 PM
Uhhh when did they win? I was talking about the SA, Houston, Sac, Tor, Chi, and of course I could always use last year' sample is that a big enough sample for you?

[Edited by - bitty41 on 01-13-2008 7:37 PM]
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1/13/2008  7:41 PM
Posted by bitty41:

Uhhh when did they win? I was talking about the SA, Houston, Sac, Tor, Chi, and of course I could always use last year' sample is that a big enough sample for you?

[Edited by - bitty41 on 01-13-2008 7:37 PM]

Lee was just a bench player last year too. I think the team would go from about a .260 to .320 team if Lee became a starter. They're not gonna be a winning team without huge changes but he would compliment either Zach or Eddy better than Zach and Eddy compliment each other.
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1/13/2008  7:42 PM
Does it even matter at this point with Isiah in charge?
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1/13/2008  8:06 PM
If the next GM wants to evaluate which players to keep, then yes it matters.
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1/13/2008  8:09 PM
Bitty where you been must have been a good shoe salesd somewhere. Since you have been gone Zach has been kicked out, yelled at the coach and got benched, and has been put on the trading block. Starting to show his true colors
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1/13/2008  8:13 PM
They are going to lose regardless but when Zach isnt in the lineup they compete and share the ball something that will help you win games down the road. Last year we win 33 games with a lot of injuries. We add a all star caliber guy and now we may not win 25 games. He should be very easy to trade with the numbers he puts up each game.
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1/13/2008  8:15 PM
Bitty you want to kill Lee yes use last year sample what was the Knicks record the first 57 games when Lee was playing, and then the last 24 he didnt play. You want to babble so go look at thesample. Bottom line we were a better team last year with curry as the focal point and Zach in Portland.
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1/13/2008  8:15 PM
Posted by King1:

Bitty where you been must have been a good shoe salesd somewhere. Since you have been gone Zach has been kicked out, yelled at the coach and got benched, and has been put on the trading block. Starting to show his true colors

The frustration is boiling over not particularly surprised if I were him I would have demanded a trade 2 weeks into my Knicks tenure.
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1/13/2008  8:16 PM
Posted by King1:

They are going to lose regardless but when Zach isnt in the lineup they compete and share the ball something that will help you win games down the road. Last year we win 33 games with a lot of injuries. We add a all star caliber guy and now we may not win 25 games. He should be very easy to trade with the numbers he puts up each game.


Well if moral victories are what your hoping for then I guess you and I will never be on the same page about what success is.
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1/13/2008  8:19 PM
Bitty I can see where Zach is frustrated he is all about winning. I am sure winning teams are lining up to take him and lead them to a championship. Do you really think a great organization and winning team will want him? Bitty you ready to agree we were better last year than this year.
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1/13/2008  8:24 PM
Posted by King1:

Bitty I can see where Zach is frustrated he is all about winning. I am sure winning teams are lining up to take him and lead them to a championship. Do you really think a great organization and winning team will want him? Bitty you ready to agree we were better last year than this year.

Uhh because all the very good teams have great power forwards so why would they be shopping for another powerforward. SA, Dallas, Phoenix, Boston, Detroit, please show me where these teams have a need for a power forward? Okay so instead of being a 33 win team that isn't making the playoffs we're a 20 win team not making the playoffs.
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1/13/2008  8:29 PM
Posted by bitty41:

Does it even matter at this point with Isiah in charge?

Nope and neither does this thread.

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1/13/2008  8:53 PM
Bitty you really think a good team would trade for Zach? We gave up nothing for him there is a reason. Enyspree I was trying to tell you who was starting tonight just having a little fun
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1/13/2008  8:57 PM
Posted by King1:

Bitty you really think a good team would trade for Zach? We gave up nothing for him there is a reason. Enyspree I was trying to tell you who was starting tonight just having a little fun

Name a good team in need of a power forward.
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1/13/2008  9:02 PM
Posted by bitty41:
Posted by King1:

Bitty you really think a good team would trade for Zach? We gave up nothing for him there is a reason. Enyspree I was trying to tell you who was starting tonight just having a little fun

Name a good team in need of a power forward.
Unless you have three very good big man, you could use a good power forward.
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1/13/2008  9:09 PM
Unless you have three very good big man, you could use a good power forward.

So it would make sense for a very good team like SA for example to bring in Zach to play behind Tim Duncan? This was just another lame attempt by King to take a shot at Zach.

Good teams are good teams because they are not in need of core players duh

Btw still waiting for that good team in need of a power forward?

[Edited by - bitty41 on 01-13-2008 9:10 PM]
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