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I want Charlie Villenueva and Lowry
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TMS
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1/10/2008  2:50 PM
Posted by rojasmas:

Charlie v is about as good as Channing Frye who we traded. Why do we want him again? We already have tons of soft guys who score about 10-15 points.

at least we'd be getting some cap relief in the last year of Zach's contract in Eny's trade proposal... not much but it's a little more significant if you count the luxury tax... i don't see why MIL would do it to be honest... Zach's contract is 1 of the top 3 or 4 worst contracts in the game right now.
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1/10/2008  3:00 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Andrew:

I'd be wary of Charlie V. Toronto was not happy with him...and it also seems like the Bucks are not either despite his immense talent.

we're not exactly thrilled w/Zach either.

Zach is still a good player. Too bad he doesn't fit the Knicks.....not his fault.

As far as the bucks? Rebuilding? They signed a lot of guys for multiple years. Their back court is set in stone with mo williams and Redd......Zach isn't 32yrs old the guy is mid 20's still.....

Bogut doesn't wanna score. Yi isn't a power fwd he's a small fwd. Zach comes in and plays his game and the Bucks will be pretty much a finished product. He's skills fit that team perfectly.

Charlie V will allow david lee to start. I can see Charlie totally stealing Q and Jareds minutes from jump. He is a decent shot blocker and he is a ball mover. He will score but he's just as good at passing.....Zach is not good at that. Charlie is also a good 3pt shooter. And yeah he's 6' 11". Against many teams in the league Charlie could play Center and totally run teams off the court.

Trust me! Knicks need to jump on Charlie before another team does! If Charlie turns out to be a bust I will buy everyone a beer @ a future date. I truly believe in this kids ability.
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TMS
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1/10/2008  3:06 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Andrew:

I'd be wary of Charlie V. Toronto was not happy with him...and it also seems like the Bucks are not either despite his immense talent.

we're not exactly thrilled w/Zach either.

Zach is still a good player. Too bad he doesn't fit the Knicks.....not his fault.

i agree it's not his fault... it's Isiah's fault... he brought in a player that had no place on this team & expected it to work... he didn't learn a thing from his failed Steve Francis trade... that's all on him.

& i agree that Zach's a good player... so is Charlie V if given the opportunity, to a lesser extent... neither of themm have any place on their respective teams & could possibly help the other (Charlie can potentially play the SF position & Zach would give the Bucks some offensive muscle down low to complement Yi & Redd's perimeter games)... but again, that contract is just so damn heinous that it's gonna take something more for us to get a deal done IMHO... at that point u have to consider if it's worth it or not.
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1/10/2008  7:04 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

I pick him in fantasy cuz he fills the stat sheet. I guess coaches don't like that. In toronto the dude almost dropped 50pts twice.....on national tv. The kid is special. Only reason he isn't getting numbers all the time is because he doesn't get minutes....I can't understand why cuz he plays defense.

Toronto had Bosh and refused to play them together.....then they go and draft charlie v lite with the #1 draft pick.....stupid.

The bucks go and draft yi....why? Star power? Its bull**** cuz yi isn't that good. But whatever.....

Toronto is PRO David "THE DON" Stern so going international was what the franchise did.

Toronto has a "HUGE' Italian population if you didn't know, and the fans Loved it when they drafted this kid from Italy Bargannia.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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1/10/2008  7:08 PM
Posted by oohah:
Posted by K22:

This might be a horrible comparison to make but I can't help it....










Separated at Birth?

K22, you're terrible, above is an example of this terrible act you've committed.

oohah

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I want Charlie Villenueva and Lowry

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