Papabear Says

I'm being accused of calling others racists with out merit. Go find it and I'll apologize. But until that is done I think that I'm owed an apology. I'm called a troll and other names. It really makes me laugh. Go find what I said! You can't and you never will. Oh but some of the people on the forum comes to your defense. He can't because it never was said by me. Some of you guys would have been kicked off the New York Times.
Don't worry I do plan to leave this forum but in my own way. It seems that I can't post without being attacted by haters. I love it because I get under your skin just to be posting not even saying anything negative you attack me. I love it. But really I must move on. There is something wrong with people who have so much hate for players and a coach. Hey it's only a game and when I go to some of the game and come back I can see just by looking at some of the posts that almost none of you guys have been to a game all season. At least I support my New York Knicks.
When 2008 comes in it will be my last post on the forum. Blueseats you won with a lie and never being able to prove what I said and they still support you so when the clock strike 12 midnight Papabear will be gone. Best wishes and a Happy New Year

Papa, stop. You're in the wrong on this one. Part of being an adult is fessing up to your mistakes. When you do that, you'll get respect from the other posters.

Posted by Papabear:

Posted by Solace:

Papa, stop. You're in the wrong on this one. Part of being an adult is fessing up to your mistakes. When you do that, you'll get respect from the other posters.

Papabear Says

So you think that whats going on with some of these haters are adult like?? Listen I'm not going to apologize and you won't have to have this discussion after midnight tonight. I'm not angry with anyone I'm just moving on to friendly waters. People who I respected thier posts, the majority don't even post here anymore. As a matter of fact I was reunited with some on another forum. Hey I respect Andrew and he has been doing this for years and I wish him well.

Papabear

Not everyone acts mature in all cases, including myself (quiet, EnySpree ). It is an opportunity to be the bigger man, though. That's all I meant.

I think a lot of your viewpoints have come a lot closer to many of the others on the forum in recent weeks, so it's interesting that you can't say that you may have overreacted on some occasions in the past.

What do you mean by we won't have to have this discussion after midnight?

[Edited by - Solace on Dec 31 2007 4:24 PM]

Posted by Solace:

Posted by Papabear:

Posted by Solace:

Papa, stop. You're in the wrong on this one. Part of being an adult is fessing up to your mistakes. When you do that, you'll get respect from the other posters.

Papabear Says

So you think that whats going on with some of these haters are adult like?? Listen I'm not going to apologize and you won't have to have this discussion after midnight tonight. I'm not angry with anyone I'm just moving on to friendly waters. People who I respected thier posts, the majority don't even post here anymore. As a matter of fact I was reunited with some on another forum. Hey I respect Andrew and he has been doing this for years and I wish him well.

Papabear

Not everyone acts mature in all cases, including myself (quiet, EnySpree ). It is an opportunity to be the bigger man, though. That's all I meant.

I think a lot of your viewpoints have come a lot closer to many of the others on the forum in recent weeks, so it's interesting that you can't say that you may have overreacted on some occasions in the past.

What do you mean by we won't have to have this discussion after midnight?

[Edited by - Solace on Dec 31 2007 4:24 PM]

Papabear Says

Solace I'm gone after midnight. I never really had a beef with you and I really don't want to argue with you. I get attacked just commenting about a post Knicks game comments. Hey people have a right to say what they want to say and I have a right to just move on and stop the negative hate. I met a few good and fair people like DJ. I will miss what he has to say. Hey as you all know I'm a Knicks lover. I did not join this forum to go to war everytime I post. Those who knew me from the New York times knew I never had one argument the years I was there.I had disagreements but that was it. I don't need this so I'm moving to friendly grounds. Hey I probably will be attacked by posting this. But it's OK. Peace 2008

Papabear

Posted by Papabear:

Papabear Says

Solace I'm gone after midnight. I never really had a beef with you and I really don't want to argue with you. I get attacked just commenting about a post Knicks game comments. Hey people have a right to say what they want to say and I have a right to just move on and stop the negative hate. I met a few good and fair people like DJ. I will miss what he has to say. Hey as you all know I'm a Knicks lover. I did not join this forum to go to war everytime I post. Those who knew me from the New York times knew I never had one argument the years I was there.I had disagreements but that was it. I don't need this so I'm moving to friendly grounds. Hey I probably will be attacked by posting this. But it's OK. Peace 2008

Papabear

Okay, man. Whatever works for you. I think you could stay and have some good discussions here as well, but whatever suits you. I wish you luck.

I will say one thing about the negativity. I've posted with many of the people on this board for many years. Many, including myself, were die-hard Knicks fans and gave support and had a lot of hope for our Knicks. People are only negative because the situation is highly negative.

Posted by Solace:

Posted by Papabear:

Papabear Says

Solace I'm gone after midnight. I never really had a beef with you and I really don't want to argue with you. I get attacked just commenting about a post Knicks game comments. Hey people have a right to say what they want to say and I have a right to just move on and stop the negative hate. I met a few good and fair people like DJ. I will miss what he has to say. Hey as you all know I'm a Knicks lover. I did not join this forum to go to war everytime I post. Those who knew me from the New York times knew I never had one argument the years I was there.I had disagreements but that was it. I don't need this so I'm moving to friendly grounds. Hey I probably will be attacked by posting this. But it's OK. Peace 2008

Papabear

Okay, man. Whatever works for you. I think you could stay and have some good discussions here as well, but whatever suits you. I wish you luck.

I will say one thing about the negativity. I've posted with many of the people on this board for many years. Many, including myself, were die-hard Knicks fans and gave support and had a lot of hope for our Knicks. People are only negative because the situation is highly negative.

pretty much in the same way Papabear's posts have become generally negative in recent weeks in his outlook on this team & these players... that is the point i was making... this was not a personal attack on you... if anything i gave u a chance to make peace w/the users on this board who you offended when u first showed up on the scene without knowing anything about what we stood for & what we were all about... instead you choose to be completely stubborn & indignant by continuing your flames against those who you criticized to begin with... you're making the exact same comments about this team that you ragged on us for just a few weeks ago... if u don't think that's worthy of being called out on, then go ahead & leave if that floats your boat... what good is announcing it to the world that you won't be around here after midnight? if you can't respect the opinions of others, the same opinions that you seem to be issuing these days, then you deserve no respect in return.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Solace:

Posted by Papabear:

Papabear Says

Solace I'm gone after midnight. I never really had a beef with you and I really don't want to argue with you. I get attacked just commenting about a post Knicks game comments. Hey people have a right to say what they want to say and I have a right to just move on and stop the negative hate. I met a few good and fair people like DJ. I will miss what he has to say. Hey as you all know I'm a Knicks lover. I did not join this forum to go to war everytime I post. Those who knew me from the New York times knew I never had one argument the years I was there.I had disagreements but that was it. I don't need this so I'm moving to friendly grounds. Hey I probably will be attacked by posting this. But it's OK. Peace 2008

Papabear

Okay, man. Whatever works for you. I think you could stay and have some good discussions here as well, but whatever suits you. I wish you luck.

I will say one thing about the negativity. I've posted with many of the people on this board for many years. Many, including myself, were die-hard Knicks fans and gave support and had a lot of hope for our Knicks. People are only negative because the situation is highly negative.

pretty much in the same way Papabear's posts have become generally negative in recent weeks in his outlook on this team & these players... that is the point i was making... this was not a personal attack on you... if anything i gave u a chance to make peace w/the users on this board who you offended when u first showed up on the scene without knowing anything about what we stood for & what we were all about... instead you choose to be completely stubborn & indignant by continuing your flames against those who you criticized to begin with... you're making the exact same comments about this team that you ragged on us for just a few weeks ago... if u don't think that's worthy of being called out on, then go ahead & leave if that floats your boat... what good is announcing it to the world that you won't be around here after midnight? if you can't respect the opinions of others, the same opinions that you seem to be issuing these days, then you deserve no respect in return.

He's the best at empty threats. I lost count of all the times he's told us he's gone, finished with discussion, won't be back, not worth his time, etc etc etc. He hasn't came through on any of them.

Papabear Says

Once again Lies lies lies. Pull up any threats where I picked a day that I said I would leave. Like I said to blueseats I would apologize to you If I'm proven wrong I'm still waiting for Bluseats to find it. Find it before 12midnight.Really before that because I'm going out to enjoy myself while you are still posting.Trueblue it will be my pleasure not comunicating with you in this life.

Papabear

[Edited by - Papabear on 12-31-2007 10:03 PM]

Posted by Papabear:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Solace:

Posted by Papabear:

Papabear Says

Solace I'm gone after midnight. I never really had a beef with you and I really don't want to argue with you. I get attacked just commenting about a post Knicks game comments. Hey people have a right to say what they want to say and I have a right to just move on and stop the negative hate. I met a few good and fair people like DJ. I will miss what he has to say. Hey as you all know I'm a Knicks lover. I did not join this forum to go to war everytime I post. Those who knew me from the New York times knew I never had one argument the years I was there.I had disagreements but that was it. I don't need this so I'm moving to friendly grounds. Hey I probably will be attacked by posting this. But it's OK. Peace 2008

Papabear

Okay, man. Whatever works for you. I think you could stay and have some good discussions here as well, but whatever suits you. I wish you luck.

I will say one thing about the negativity. I've posted with many of the people on this board for many years. Many, including myself, were die-hard Knicks fans and gave support and had a lot of hope for our Knicks. People are only negative because the situation is highly negative.

pretty much in the same way Papabear's posts have become generally negative in recent weeks in his outlook on this team & these players... that is the point i was making... this was not a personal attack on you... if anything i gave u a chance to make peace w/the users on this board who you offended when u first showed up on the scene without knowing anything about what we stood for & what we were all about... instead you choose to be completely stubborn & indignant by continuing your flames against those who you criticized to begin with... you're making the exact same comments about this team that you ragged on us for just a few weeks ago... if u don't think that's worthy of being called out on, then go ahead & leave if that floats your boat... what good is announcing it to the world that you won't be around here after midnight? if you can't respect the opinions of others, the same opinions that you seem to be issuing these days, then you deserve no respect in return.

He's the best at empty threats. I lost count of all the times he's told us he's gone, finished with discussion, won't be back, not worth his time, etc etc etc. He hasn't came through on any of them.

Papabear Says

Once again Lies lies lies. Pull up any threats where I picked a day that I said I would leave. Like I said to blueseats I would apologize to you If I'm proven wrong I'm still waiting for Bluseats to find it. Find it before 12midnight.Really before that because I'm going out to enjoy myself while you are still posting.Trueblue it will be my pleasure not comunicating with you in this life.

Papabear

[Edited by - Papabear on 12-31-2007 10:03 PM]

So in less than 2 hours you will leave forever and never post here again...ever? Is this correct?

Posted by Papabear:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Solace:

Posted by Papabear:

Papabear Says

Solace I'm gone after midnight. I never really had a beef with you and I really don't want to argue with you. I get attacked just commenting about a post Knicks game comments. Hey people have a right to say what they want to say and I have a right to just move on and stop the negative hate. I met a few good and fair people like DJ. I will miss what he has to say. Hey as you all know I'm a Knicks lover. I did not join this forum to go to war everytime I post. Those who knew me from the New York times knew I never had one argument the years I was there.I had disagreements but that was it. I don't need this so I'm moving to friendly grounds. Hey I probably will be attacked by posting this. But it's OK. Peace 2008

Papabear

Okay, man. Whatever works for you. I think you could stay and have some good discussions here as well, but whatever suits you. I wish you luck.

I will say one thing about the negativity. I've posted with many of the people on this board for many years. Many, including myself, were die-hard Knicks fans and gave support and had a lot of hope for our Knicks. People are only negative because the situation is highly negative.

pretty much in the same way Papabear's posts have become generally negative in recent weeks in his outlook on this team & these players... that is the point i was making... this was not a personal attack on you... if anything i gave u a chance to make peace w/the users on this board who you offended when u first showed up on the scene without knowing anything about what we stood for & what we were all about... instead you choose to be completely stubborn & indignant by continuing your flames against those who you criticized to begin with... you're making the exact same comments about this team that you ragged on us for just a few weeks ago... if u don't think that's worthy of being called out on, then go ahead & leave if that floats your boat... what good is announcing it to the world that you won't be around here after midnight? if you can't respect the opinions of others, the same opinions that you seem to be issuing these days, then you deserve no respect in return.

He's the best at empty threats. I lost count of all the times he's told us he's gone, finished with discussion, won't be back, not worth his time, etc etc etc. He hasn't came through on any of them.

Papabear Says

Once again Lies lies lies. Pull up any threats where I picked a day that I said I would leave. Like I said to blueseats I would apologize to you If I'm proven wrong I'm still waiting for Bluseats to find it. Find it before 12midnight.Really before that because I'm going out to enjoy myself while you are still posting.Trueblue it will be my pleasure not comunicating with you in this life.

Papabear

[Edited by - Papabear on 12-31-2007 10:03 PM]

Hey, there's no time limits here. You may be leaving at midnight, but we aren't. I know you're leaving tonight because I told you I'd give you my reply tomorrow, and you're unwilling to face yourself.

But just to show how wrong and reckless you are I'll handle this aspect tonight:, so you can apologize to True before you go. Don't worry about not giving yourself the opportunity to apologize to me tomorrow, I knew you'd rather run.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by Papabear:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

If Isiah Thomas was winning as much as Bill Belichick how many people would want him fired over his so called racist or sexist comments. How many media articles would come out making Isiah the victim & Miss Saunders as the bad person. Not that Isiah is a victim, but thats just the reality. If Isiah won like that he wouldn't be such an easy target to go after. As someone who wins like that would build up many many supporters. But Isiah hasn't been successful in terms of wins in NY so he is an easy targer to pile up on. Things like this case are allways seem a lot worse when you aren't successful, and allways not as bad when you are.

The reality of this world is that there is and will allways be racism, sexism, racial profiling, sterotyping. Though it isn't bad as it once was, but no way did it dissappear.

Do you believe everything would be the same if Saunders was white? Or if Isiah was white? Or if both of them were white?

That said going back to the top. I don't feel this case is about racism or sexism. It doesn't seem like Isiah goes around calling all black women bitches (Or maybe he does). And Its not like he states general statments about black women or women in general being bitches. He seemed to just not like Saunders, and called her a bitch. Though its still debatable if he really did.

I don't really want to comment to much on this subject because nobody outside of Saunders & Isiah, will know the whole truth. But nothing in this case makes me believe that Saunders should get 10mil or that Isiah Thomas should be fired. Though it would be understandable if Isiah got fired because of the lack of wins when compared with the amount of money he has spent. Plus the circus atmosphere which I agree needs to go.

Papabear says

If my mind is correct the Knicks haven't won a championship since the early 70s and Zeke was just a kid. Yea we had runs but no championship. Out of all the presidents and coaches of the knicks during that time we couldn't put 2 superstars or stars together in the Mecca of basketball to bring us a championship. Bernard King was the closest thing to a superstar weve had. Ewing was a great player but know one was able to surround him with the right pieces. I have to agree with some of the other forums about this forum when they say you guys over here are nothing but negetive haters and it's all geared at Zeke and Marbs. I kinda agree with Charles Barkley who said no superstars really want to come to New York especially the way you guys treated Ewing. Go back to the forum right before Ewing got traded and you chased him out of town. No stars wants to come to New York. It's the way you treat people. Always negitive things. So when Zeke and Marbs are gone do you really think that you will get a Dunkin, or King James, or Kobe?? Forget about it!!! They ain't comin and I can't blame them.
So you guys just keep on hatten. You were talken about trading for The Jazz Klinko (I guess thats his name) He ain't comin to the Knicks. We get guys like Spreewill the choker, and Zach the gang banger.
and you are still complaining. Go and become a Celtics fan. You will make a better fit. Go talk about KG.

Papabear

[Edited by - Papabear on 09-24-2007 12:44 AM]

You can't be taken seriously on this subject anymore. How many times are you going to grace us with threatening to abandon the subject?

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09-23-2007 02:01 AM


Papabear Says

codeunknown : Just forget about it. I'm not wasting no more time with you Zeke Hatters. I'm not going to wast my time with people who don't know the truth about race problem in America. I can't change your mind and you can't change mine. So with that being said. I'm going to bed.

Papabear


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09-23-2007 9:05 PM

Papabear Says

You know I just won't say anything. The stinch of hate for Marbs is so thick here that I would be wasting my words. You guys would rather see Marbs loose a game then win. You would have no problem with Marbs leaving today and we get nothing in return.

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09-23-2007 9:16 PM

Papabear Says

I will not discuss again the Zeke trial again on the forum until the trial is over or unless one of you dudes say something so out of wak that I can't bite my toung.


Papabear

If we're such haters here then don't post on this board and stay on the other ones and confess your Love for I SAY UGH and Marbury. The Backpedaling was lovely in that last post.