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12/26/2007  12:24 AM
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12/26/2007  12:28 AM
Posted by Papabear:
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Papabear Says

People I just put this out there about Anucha Brown. Now I've got to sign off to be with my family. I can't wait to open up my gifts. I have eight children, well six are adults. I'm truly blessed.
Merry Christmas

Papabear

I didn't know "children" was slang for brothers. So how old are you now little boy, 10?

Blue Seats never calls people out on things for no reason. And it is impossible to go back through so many pages to find one post that you made. Maybe the owners of the site could help him with that but I feel the only reason you say "go back and find it" is because you know he can't.

You most also be an idiot for telling us what you're saying in every post. "Papabear says..." Yeah, no **** you're "saying" fool, it's your post. You also don't have to sign off on your post either by telling us your Papabear. Uh...duh. We know. Seriously, quit that lame gimmick and go back to posting something other than posts that clearly lick Isiah's testicles.

Thank you.

Papabear Says

Blueseats can never find something I never said. Maybe you and him both should ask Andrew. and lick what on Isiah ??
I'll tell you what! Why don't you say that to my face. Any time any place you little sorry punk. Hiding behind a computer.

Papabear



[Edited by - Papabear on 12-25-2007 11:58 PM]


What GROWN AZZ MAN with 8 kids, 6 of them being grown, would threaten someone over the internet they don't even know?

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-25-2007 11:01 PM]

Papabear Says

What kind of grown azz men would sit around all day calling people names and post how much they hate someone?? Get a Life

Papabear


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12/26/2007  12:54 AM
hey papa and blue have an issue, I say let's let them work it out between them in this thread and let's not pile on.
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12/26/2007  1:55 AM
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12/26/2007  4:56 AM
Blue Seats never calls people out on things for no reason.

I don't know if this is true. A week or so ago, Blue posted that I wrote: "The only way one could prefer David Lee over Randolph was if they were racially biased". I told him I never wrote or suggested that. He told me that I should man up and own up to the comments I made.

A little while later basketballjones pulled up the thread in which said statements were made, and just like I maintained, I made no such comment. Blue has still not manned up to putting words in my mouth.

Similarly, Blue has been writing that Papabear said that anyone who did not like or support Marbury/Isiah is racist. P-Bear might have posted some other crazy shyt, but I don't remember him posting that.

These are the kind of accusations that should be backed by links.

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12/26/2007  9:46 AM
Posted by NYKniCksFan87:

why does he keep referring to himself in the third person that junk is so corny...how could u support someone like zeke the man is a fraud

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12/26/2007  9:49 AM
I'm not going to say who, but there are at least a few people on this message board that really need to stop taking life so seriously.
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12/26/2007  11:02 AM
Posted by Papabear:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Papabear:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Papabear:
Posted by BlueSeats:

Papa, thanks for posting this article.

Now please remind us how in your mind anyone who supported the cause of this high achieving black woman is a racist.

Papabear Says

Blueseats You can Kiss my fu3king ass. I said before that race thing is over. I don't view your posts I don't respond to your posts just because of this. Its seems like you are the problem always bringing up race when Andrew even ask you to back off.Just don't respond to my posts and I will continue not responding to yours. You are about to start something and I won't back down till the owners of this forum see what you are trying to do and they step in. It's your call. Go get a fu3king life because you don't have one.

Papabear


You got it all wrong. Andrew asked you to stop calling people racist without cause.

So that you could remain on the board you said you'd stop, but you never retracted your accusations. When you do the matter will be done, but you haven't, leaving it open to discussion.

Papabear Says

You got it all wrong but no matter what there is nothing to discuss. My discussion is on what relates to the Knicks. As far as you are concern this is the last time I will ever communicate with you. Get a Life and good-by!!!

no signature!! person not worth it.

Why are you angry? Because I've asked you to explain your views?

We still have so much to discuss.

You said anyone who doesn't support "Zeke and Marbs" is racist, and now you don't support them. So you consider yourself a racist?


Why do you find discussing your own views so ugly?

Papabear Says

You are a fu3king liar go back a find where I made those statements. Pull them up if you can those quotes by me I will appoligize but if you can't then you are a fu3king liar trying to start stuff and you owe this forum a apology. Now go find it liar. Show this form what I said. You forced me to say something to you again but until you pull my statements or get them from Andrew you will be knon as a liar.a fu3king liar.




[Edited by - Papabear on 12-25-2007 1:29 PM]

I don't think this is papabear. He didn't end his post with "Papabear."

What a joke.
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12/26/2007  4:00 PM
Hey guys. Been busy with family and all. I hope everyone had a nice holiday.

I brought up this alleged quote from papabear many times, this is the first he's denied saying it, so I didn't even know it was in question. I will see what I can evidence, but it's gonna take a lot of digging, give me some time.
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Blue Seats never calls people out on things for no reason.

I don't know if this is true. A week or so ago, Blue posted that I wrote: "The only way one could prefer David Lee over Randolph was if they were racially biased". I told him I never wrote or suggested that. He told me that I should man up and own up to the comments I made.

A little while later basketballjones pulled up the thread in which said statements were made, and just like I maintained, I made no such comment. Blue has still not manned up to putting words in my mouth.

Similarly, Blue has been writing that Papabear said that anyone who did not like or support Marbury/Isiah is racist. P-Bear might have posted some other crazy shyt, but I don't remember him posting that.

These are the kind of accusations that should be backed by links.

oohah

Oohah, I will link to that thread. When I referred back to it a week ago it was in regard to both you and Holfresh. While you did walk a line to try not to say what I accused you of, I do feel that what you wrote, seemingly in support of Holfresh's more blatant assertions, amounted to a tag-team suggestion that the support of Lee over Zach had to be racially motivated.

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=24101&page=all

Here are a couple of snippets:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by holfresh:


This is why it's difficult to take you guys seriously...Zack has made the Knicks competitive before Marbs' and Isiah latest gaff...Lee in the lineup while Zack has been out has made the Knicks the same team they were last year...Lee is a nice role player...Many here want to make him more than he really is, not sure why...Actually I know why....But if you want to ignore what Zack brings to this team and pump Lee up to this mythical figure, go right ahead....

Fresh, please, enough with the racial innuendo. Lee had the highest on/of court ranking of the entire team last year, as well as winning MVP at the Soph all-star game and an invitation to practice with Team USA. It's not like he didn't earn his fans. It's fine to prefer Zach, but please don't taint the conversation with your own nonsensical bias.

I not here to insinuate anything....I like Lee very much and think he is an outstanding player...But when people here are grading him above Zack in terms of what he brings to the team...What could that reason possibly be Blue...You ignoring it doesn't mean it doesn't exist...


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Posted by oohah:

That is correct, I do not believe it is based on race. I believe it is based on people liking Lee before Zach was here, for having the highest PER on the team last year for him appearing to have an effect on the team that surpassed his personal stats (which was reflected in his leading the team in +/-), for him seeming to be a character guy who stays out of trouble in the off-season, for looking like the hardest working player on the floor many, if not most, nights, etc.

In short, Lee has looked like the antidote to the egocentric, low IQ, fruity, inconsistent, out of condition, lackadaisical, loser mentality that has embodied this franchise the last few years while Zach is still a relatively unknown quantity (here) who comes at a high cost and with plenty of baggage.

Well, I think that's a little naive. I'm not saying race is the only factor by a long shot, but Lee has been as big a loser as any other player on the Knicks at the professional level.

I am guessing you are not familiar with or don't believe in the phenomenon known as the "Great White Hope"?

In the second half of the 20th century in America, the sports scene has been dominated by black athletes, and it has left a void for white folks in a certain way. It's not a bad thing, people like to have somebody to root for that looks like them. Similarly, Tiger Woods has opened up the world of golf to blacks.

And for this reason I believe that Lee is pumped up to be many things he is not. He is the first white guy on the Knicks since Debuscherre who really brings it.

Skills well beyond his Lee's capability are all attributed to him when actually his game is quite limited. I've read all about his point-guard ball handling skills, lock down defense, and offensive prowess. I'm guessing you have not seen those daily posts.
If that doesn't answer your question sufficiently I can try to find bip's thread on Balkman being white for further reference.

Bippity's thread, which I have only glanced at because he bumped it the other day is absurd and silly for many reasons:

A) Because it's just absurd.
B) Because there is nowhere near the clamoring and fawning over Balkman that there is over Lee. Nothing near in the least. In the meantime, Balkman is nearly as good a rebounder as Lee, a better ball-handler, 3X the defensive player Lee is inside and on the perimeter, and they both can't shoot.

Somebody should start the "Should we Keep Randolph or Balkman?" poll, and I think you will see different results from this one (which I haven't checked out.).

oohah

So, it's true you never outright said that one could only support Lee over Zach for racial reasons. But in a conversation of the merits between the two you and holfresh did see fit to suggest that Zach is so superior that race must be a major factor, just not the only factor.

Se here you ask me to man up that I misquoted you. You also haven't quoted me, so I don't know you have my words exactly right, but if you do then they would be an exaggeration of your claim. But I really don't think it's that far off from the spirit of your assertions.

Spirit vs direct quotes is something that can be argued for days. I remember we once went back and forth for 4 pages when you took umbrage for me paraphrasing your assertion that I was "making things up and presenting them as fact" as calling me a "liar". Lets not go there again. I have posted the thread in question so everyone can see in it what they like.
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12/26/2007  4:07 PM
why gang up on papa bear? This seems like an issue he and blueseats need to iron out, both I am sure are mature adults and can do that.. I thought the forums were supposed to be a "getaway" from the norm, I have no problem with papabear posting in that somewhat wierd third person tone.. I find it funny, moreso than annoying. Sometimes people come here to just cut lose and be someone else for a change, life is full of shyt, all of us know that, with the family, bills, work, mortgage payments, hell if a man wants to come in here and be "papabear", then I say go for it.....

with that said...

Damn these knicks will drive one to having an alter ego.....

BTW: Blueseats, you need to visit realgm, you and major would now be in the majority.. LOL the knick dislike or as we call it hate is at an all time high.. I guess you guys were like pioneers.. LOL...

[Edited by - tkf on 26-12-2007 4:11 PM]
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12/26/2007  4:13 PM
Bippity's thread, which I have only glanced at because he bumped it the other day is absurd and silly for many reasons:

A) Because it's just absurd.
B) Because there is nowhere near the clamoring and fawning over Balkman that there is over Lee. Nothing near in the least. In the meantime, Balkman is nearly as good a rebounder as Lee, a better ball-handler, 3X the defensive player Lee is inside and on the perimeter, and they both can't shoot.

Somebody should start the "Should we Keep Randolph or Balkman?" poll, and I think you will see different results from this one (which I haven't checked out.).

oohah

What's absurd is that someone actually attacked the Balkman is white thread. That was by far one of my proudest moments. And I think despite the humor, the point of the thread was caught by most.
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12/26/2007  4:15 PM
As for PapaBear talking in the third person, the Bip would like to reiterate that the Bip doesn't like that shiot. Papabear, the Bip is asking you to stop before he gets angry. You won't like the Bip when he's angry. The Bip will be the first to ask you wear you live and then challenge you to a duel. So the Bip suggests that you discontinue this method of converation.

The Bip thanks you in advance for your cooperation
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12/26/2007  4:19 PM
Posted by tkf:

why gang up on papa bear? This seems like an issue he and blueseats need to iron out, both I am sure are mature adults and can do that.. I thought the forums were supposed to be a "getaway" from the norm, I have no problem with papabear posting in that somewhat wierd third person tone.. I find it funny, moreso than annoying. Sometimes people come here to just cut lose and be someone else for a change, life is full of shyt, all of us know that, with the family, bills, work, mortgage payments, hell if a man wants to come in here and be "papabear", then I say go for it.....

with that said...

Damn these knicks will drive one to having an alter ego.....

BTW: Blueseats, you need to visit realgm, you and major would now be in the majority.. LOL the knick dislike or as we call it hate is at an all time high.. I guess you guys were like pioneers.. LOL...

[Edited by - tkf on 26-12-2007 4:11 PM]


TrueBlue was told by Papabear because TKF post on 2-3 separate message boards off and on all day, TKF has no job or life. TrueBlue hopes TKF finds joy in this assessment and many of the likes made by Papabear on a continual basis.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-26-2007 3:20 PM]
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12/26/2007  4:32 PM
Posted by tkf:

why gang up on papa bear? This seems like an issue he and blueseats need to iron out, both I am sure are mature adults and can do that.. I thought the forums were supposed to be a "getaway" from the norm, I have no problem with papabear posting in that somewhat wierd third person tone.. I find it funny, moreso than annoying. Sometimes people come here to just cut lose and be someone else for a change, life is full of shyt, all of us know that, with the family, bills, work, mortgage payments, hell if a man wants to come in here and be "papabear", then I say go for it.....

with that said...

Damn these knicks will drive one to having an alter ego.....

BTW: Blueseats, you need to visit realgm, you and major would now be in the majority.. LOL the knick dislike or as we call it hate is at an all time high.. I guess you guys were like pioneers.. LOL...

[Edited by - tkf on 26-12-2007 4:11 PM]

I got banned for my views on the Knicks and made many enemies there. Too bad I could never come back and say "I told you so" to those fools.
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12/26/2007  8:19 PM
Posted by tkf:

why gang up on papa bear? This seems like an issue he and blueseats need to iron out, both I am sure are mature adults and can do that.. I thought the forums were supposed to be a "getaway" from the norm, I have no problem with papabear posting in that somewhat wierd third person tone.. I find it funny, moreso than annoying. Sometimes people come here to just cut lose and be someone else for a change, life is full of shyt, all of us know that, with the family, bills, work, mortgage payments, hell if a man wants to come in here and be "papabear", then I say go for it.....

with that said...

Damn these knicks will drive one to having an alter ego.....

BTW: Blueseats, you need to visit realgm, you and major would now be in the majority.. LOL the knick dislike or as we call it hate is at an all time high.. I guess you guys were like pioneers.. LOL...

[Edited by - tkf on 26-12-2007 4:11 PM]

Did you see all the threads I bumped at RGM? Also, the fact I barely post there and basically just post here is not coincidence. Nothing agaisnt the mods... you know my stance on y'all, but DAMN. BigC and dj post here, and I have Bill Bradley's, JohnStarksTheDunki's, knicks742 and StutterStep's contact info. If I could get Capn'O's and kosmo's info, I'd likely never post there again... PLUS all the great banned posters are here now too.

Anywho, I can relate to having a different persona. I mean, have you read my screen name? The whole papabear thing could be viewed as a blue vs. pb thing, or people pb labeled racist-haters could take exception. His shtick is also intolerable, in my not so humble opinion.


[Edited by - supremecommander on 12-26-2007 8:21 PM]
DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
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12/26/2007  10:20 PM
Papabear Says

I'm still waiting for Blueseats to present proof of what I said. I repeat he will never find it.
When I first came on this forum you had your haters and lovers. I now see some of the lovers have moved on to other forums. Hey you can call me names or what ever but when a man calls me out on something he claims I said you would think that even the haters would say Blueseats put up or apologize to Papabear for misquoting him. But no you guys continue to defend him even though he is wrong. All that I can say is that if any of you guys read my posts with the New York Times I had no problems with anyone. I was asked to come and join this forum when the Times closed. I joined and I also visited a few others forums. I don't mind people joking about me and talking about me. But to Lie on me and try to convince all of you guys that what he is saying is true. Where is the Credibility at? The man lied on me and some of you people believe and protect him. He not only does it to me but he will do it to anyone he has an issue with. He bends words to satisfy himself.
All of the lovers are almost gone from this forum. If thats what you want to do, you are doing a great job at it.

Papabear

[Edited by - Papabear on 12-26-2007 10:32 PM]
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12/26/2007  10:22 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by tkf:

why gang up on papa bear? This seems like an issue he and blueseats need to iron out, both I am sure are mature adults and can do that.. I thought the forums were supposed to be a "getaway" from the norm, I have no problem with papabear posting in that somewhat wierd third person tone.. I find it funny, moreso than annoying. Sometimes people come here to just cut lose and be someone else for a change, life is full of shyt, all of us know that, with the family, bills, work, mortgage payments, hell if a man wants to come in here and be "papabear", then I say go for it.....

with that said...

Damn these knicks will drive one to having an alter ego.....

BTW: Blueseats, you need to visit realgm, you and major would now be in the majority.. LOL the knick dislike or as we call it hate is at an all time high.. I guess you guys were like pioneers.. LOL...

[Edited by - tkf on 26-12-2007 4:11 PM]


TrueBlue was told by Papabear because TKF post on 2-3 separate message boards off and on all day, TKF has no job or life. TrueBlue hopes TKF finds joy in this assessment and many of the likes made by Papabear on a continual basis.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-26-2007 3:20 PM]

Why don't I find this funny? am I missing something? Seriously, tell me...
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Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by tkf:

why gang up on papa bear? This seems like an issue he and blueseats need to iron out, both I am sure are mature adults and can do that.. I thought the forums were supposed to be a "getaway" from the norm, I have no problem with papabear posting in that somewhat wierd third person tone.. I find it funny, moreso than annoying. Sometimes people come here to just cut lose and be someone else for a change, life is full of shyt, all of us know that, with the family, bills, work, mortgage payments, hell if a man wants to come in here and be "papabear", then I say go for it.....

with that said...

Damn these knicks will drive one to having an alter ego.....

BTW: Blueseats, you need to visit realgm, you and major would now be in the majority.. LOL the knick dislike or as we call it hate is at an all time high.. I guess you guys were like pioneers.. LOL...

[Edited by - tkf on 26-12-2007 4:11 PM]

Did you see all the threads I bumped at RGM? Also, the fact I barely post there and basically just post here is not coincidence. Nothing agaisnt the mods... you know my stance on y'all, but DAMN. BigC and dj post here, and I have Bill Bradley's, JohnStarksTheDunki's, knicks742 and StutterStep's contact info. If I could get Capn'O's and kosmo's info, I'd likely never post there again... PLUS all the great banned posters are here now too.

Anywho, I can relate to having a different persona. I mean, have you read my screen name? The whole papabear thing could be viewed as a blue vs. pb thing, or people pb labeled racist-haters could take exception. His shtick is also intolerable, in my not so humble opinion.
[Edited by - supremecommander on 12-26-2007 8:21 PM]

LOL..... but why does it make you guys so upset.. LOL.. I find it amusing, if not anything else..

Anyway, we lost a lot of good posters over there, but we still have some good ones... One thing I will say, the hate towards this team has united many....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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12/26/2007  10:28 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by tkf:

why gang up on papa bear? This seems like an issue he and blueseats need to iron out, both I am sure are mature adults and can do that.. I thought the forums were supposed to be a "getaway" from the norm, I have no problem with papabear posting in that somewhat wierd third person tone.. I find it funny, moreso than annoying. Sometimes people come here to just cut lose and be someone else for a change, life is full of shyt, all of us know that, with the family, bills, work, mortgage payments, hell if a man wants to come in here and be "papabear", then I say go for it.....

with that said...

Damn these knicks will drive one to having an alter ego.....

BTW: Blueseats, you need to visit realgm, you and major would now be in the majority.. LOL the knick dislike or as we call it hate is at an all time high.. I guess you guys were like pioneers.. LOL...

[Edited by - tkf on 26-12-2007 4:11 PM]


TrueBlue was told by Papabear because TKF post on 2-3 separate message boards off and on all day, TKF has no job or life. TrueBlue hopes TKF finds joy in this assessment and many of the likes made by Papabear on a continual basis.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-26-2007 3:20 PM]

Papabear Says

Trueblue I call you out and challange you to go find a post by me saying something of a negative issue without someone attacking me first. I never never was a first response attack poster. I was always attacked first. Its like this, if you attack me I will attack back , if you hit me I'll hit you back.

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12/26/2007  10:47 PM
So, it's true you never outright said that one could only support Lee over Zach for racial reasons. But in a conversation of the merits between the two you and holfresh did see fit to suggest that Zach is so superior that race must be a major factor, just not the only factor.

Nope. That's not what I said. I think the lack of merit to your argument is illustrated by the fact you have highlighted holfresh' statements as if that has something to do with me. I'm not sure why you are insisiting on combining our posts except to attribute comments to me that I never made.

Interestingly, you didn't see fit to highlight this sentence that was actually written by me:

"Well, I think that's a little naive. I'm not saying race is the only factor by a long shot, but Lee has been as big a loser as any other player on the Knicks at the professional level."
Se here you ask me to man up that I misquoted you. You also haven't quoted me, so I don't know you have my words exactly right, but if you do then they would be an exaggeration of your claim. But I really don't think it's that far off from the spirit of your assertions.

It's quite far off from the spirit of my assertions. In fact, you don't have to look for the "spirit", the "gist", or any other ephemeral ways to interpret what I said. I wrote it very clearly. You're looking for meaning that was never there. I'm not sure why.

And while I haven't quoted your statement to the letter, the big difference is that my recollection is an accurate and fair representation of what you actually wrote, and yours was off-base and inflammatory. So please don't act like this is about being letter-accurate. You know full well it isn't.
Spirit vs direct quotes is something that can be argued for days. I remember we once went back and forth for 4 pages when you took umbrage for me paraphrasing your assertion that I was "making things up and presenting them as fact" as calling me a "liar". Lets not go there again. I have posted the thread in question so everyone can see in it what they like.

In this case, spirit vs. direct quotes can be argued for about 5 minutes. You put words in my mouth that I never said, nor did I imply, then you demanded (And I am paraphrasing here.) that I "man up" lest you have to spend time digging up the thread where I made the statements you had mistakenly (I assume) attributed to me. Now the thread is here and were there and those statements are neither made nor implied by me.

Have I mis-represented the spirit of your mistaken assertion? I don't think so, but please tell me if I have. I'll dig up the thread and be sure to manup to my error, I won't try to pretend I said anything else or write circles around it.

What I am stating you said is accurate and what you stated I said was inaccurate. It's been proven in blue and dark blue above, in your very own post. You should just manup and spare me the trouble of having to dig for it.

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