Posted by nysportsfan11:

Nah, I don't work for the Knicks or the media, never have, never wanted to. I did intern for Charles Dolan a looooooooong time ago. He's a great guy who couldn't care less about basketball. He also knows no one likes his son. Neither does he. I do know a lot of people who either used to be or are currently in the front office though.

Like I said on K4L, I grew up in the same neighborhood as the Marbury clan, grew up with Moses aka Zech. They're a great family. I don't like Steph as a ball player since I feel like he's basically wasted his talent and ruined the chance of a lifetime playing in the building we all wished we could as kids. As a person, he's a much different dude than he was when we were growing up. Even with all the attention he got as a kid, he was always cool (even though I was closer to Moses and Norm) but he changed a lot after he left Minnesota. He was two things then that he isn't now - a point guard and a regular dude. He used to obsess over the Knicks back in the day. He used to obsess about basketball period. Now that's just not there anymore.

That's why Frank Isola is so critical of him now. Frank used to be close to the Marbury fam, Steph in particular. Then Steph changed and flipped on Frank because people in the Knicks organization don't like Frank. But this is a guy Steph's known for over 15 years, man to man, not even media to player. They used to go to AAU games together because Steph was such a gym rat that he'd spend entire days at tournaments that he wasn't even playing in. He knew more about high school basketball around the country than most people covering it. Frank would be covering the games or was just there hanging out and would give him rides home. And you could tell Frank genuinely cared about him which Steph had to know because after Darcy Frey wrote that book, Steph avoided the media like the plague. That's why everyone laughs when a guy like Berman switches his whole apporach to Steph (he used to absolutely hate him) and tries to be all buddy buddy with Steph when anyone can see he's just being used.

I grew up in basketball and entertainment. Being a ball player, growing up playing against/knowing a lot of current NBA players and now working where I work, I'm pretty close to the off court stuff and business side of a lot of NBA and WNBA teams. But obviously, growing up in the Mecca, I'm a die hard Knicks (and Lakers) fan, so I pay attention to their situation a little closer. I know Supranowitz because I've worked with him before. He's a good dude who's getting a raw deal, basically the same deal Vince Jackson got. I also worked with Mills before he came to the Knicks. He lost his backbone and pride somewhere along his tenure here. As African-American executives in sports, believe it or not, he and Anucha were once considered the blueprints for young professionals in any aspect of the sports business. Almost everyone in the front office would be good at what they do somewhere else, without the constraints of Dolan's b.s.

The 11 damn sure isn't for Crawford or Isiah. I don't like a single player on the current Knicks, even off the court (except Nate, David, Malik and Balk), and being a fan of the Knicks and Showtime Lakers, I hated Isiah when he played. He's a dickhead as a person as well. The 11 is for two of my favorite NY athletes of all time - Mark Messier and Teresa Weatherspoon, real leaders who loved, appreciated and understood every minute of what it meant to play here. Derek Harper should come to a Knicks game just to snatch his jersey off Crawford and smack him with it. These current bums on the Knicks treat it like a job.

[Edited by - nysportsfan11 on 12-23-2007 1:53 PM]

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by nysportsfan11:

Posted by SupremeCommander:


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(1) I heard the reason Marbury and Isola essentially relationship ended was because Marbury loudly mocked Isola's dress and hygiene very publicly, and amongst Isola's peers. Do you know the story behind this comment or what it was?

That was Frank being sensational and sensitive as usual. Steph was cracking on Berman as he usually did and still does even after Berman became his lawyer. Teammates were laughing, the beat writers weren't. The beat writers probably weren't laughing because there was a lot of truth in jest; that and Frank has no sense of humor, Steph has no comedic delivery and Berman has no pride. Typical day in the Knicks locker room. Steph and Marc's relationship is akin to the dumb jock picking on the same nerd day after day in school and then one day you're walking down a hall and you see the two hanging out and now the nerd no longer sits with his fellow nerds at lunch (the beat writers) and starts telling everyone that the dumb jock who's been bullying him for years is misunderstood.

Steph was a point guard until he got paid. Point blank.

Doesn't matter how insensitive Isola is no need to be unprofessional. Just because your jokes work with some doesn't mean they work for all. As if Steph isn't the most sensitive retard in the world. He needs to retire and do community service and stick to his business ventures.

Posted by nysportsfan11:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by nysportsfan11:

Posted by SupremeCommander:


Bolded:
(1) I heard the reason Marbury and Isola essentially relationship ended was because Marbury loudly mocked Isola's dress and hygiene very publicly, and amongst Isola's peers. Do you know the story behind this comment or what it was?

That was Frank being sensational and sensitive as usual. Steph was cracking on Berman as he usually did and still does even after Berman became his lawyer. Teammates were laughing, the beat writers weren't. The beat writers probably weren't laughing because there was a lot of truth in jest; that and Frank has no sense of humor, Steph has no comedic delivery and Berman has no pride. Typical day in the Knicks locker room. Steph and Marc's relationship is akin to the dumb jock picking on the same nerd day after day in school and then one day you're walking down a hall and you see the two hanging out and now the nerd no longer sits with his fellow nerds at lunch (the beat writers) and starts telling everyone that the dumb jock who's been bullying him for years is misunderstood.

Steph was a point guard until he got paid. Point blank.

Doesn't matter how insensitive Isola is no need to be unprofessional. Just because your jokes work with some doesn't mean they work for all. As if Steph isn't the most sensitive retard in the world. He needs to retire and do community service and stick to his business ventures.

Professionalism is the last thing you'd expect to find in a locker room. Frank should know after spending much of his time teaming with Oak to basically do the same thing Steph did to his fellow writers almost every day. Berman bashing is a rite of passage even in opposing locker rooms. Even David cracks on Berman. Like I said, typical day in the Knicks locker room. Frank's a good dude, he's just letting the constant brow beating at the hands of Dolan get to him.

Posted by SlimPack:I just remembered that there was something that I wanted to ask you, and I didn't know what other thread to use to do it. Do you believe that Dolan orders Isiah to make the playoffs every season?

Posted by majorleads:

Great stuff nysportsfan11! I grew up with Tom Gugliotta in Huntington LI so naturally I followed his career while he was in Minny and Phoenix. Unfortunately for Googs, Prickbury was a teammate in both of those spots. He would tell me stories of his Minny days when Steph and Isiah Rider were his teammates. He said Steph was a HUGE jackass, but Rider was even worse. He would create a spectacle of himself whenever they would go on the road. Marbury, he said, was just plain rude and surly to everyone. Then in Phoenix Googs said Marbury had matured...somewhat. That was when Marbs and Googs both had young kids so they had something in common. He said fatherhood had really helped Steph mature. Marbs was still an ass, but a "more" likable ass than his Minny days. Googs also said that when he played in Washington, Bernard King who was on that team, was known to be a crossdresser. Oops shouldn't have said that. ha ha True though.

edit:Should say that Googs teammates in Washington would tell him stories about BK. BK never actually played with Tom. But apparently it was well-known throughout the league at the time. ha ha

[Edited by - majorleads on 12-29-2007 04:38 AM]

Posted by Allanfan20:

nysportsfan11, I just want to know one more thing. What position does Holfresh hold, working in Isiah's office? Is he one of Isiah's lawyers from the Anucha trial?