Posted by Papabear:

Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by Papabear:

Papabear Says

Everyone think that it's Zeke pushing this plate. I believe the only reason why Zeke is not fired is because a lot of these moves and things that were done relating to this team was done by Dolan. In time it all will come out. Zeke played with heart. this team dosen't. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
All of this goes back to the Patrick Ewing curse when everbody wanted Ewing gone. I couldn't believe it after all those years he gave to the Knicks. A lot of you haters wanted him gone.
Players from across the league were against the Knicks like Barkley who said back then that the Knicks will pay for what they did to Ewing. This is the Ewing curse.
Nothing good comes of something when you vent nothing but hate. When Zeke is gone and years down the line if and when the win a championship. One thing for sure I always had love for my team. I might get upset and angry but I will never waver my loyalty to my team.

Papabear

Isn't there someone in your trailer, a pet maybe, that can teach you to be less ignorant?

Papabear Says

If thats the case just ignore me like I do you.Ignorant is hating people who just play a sports game. Now that's ignorant.

Papabear

No one hates the players in any meaningful sense of the word. Its your inability to recognize that, among other things, that make you look like a blithering idiot daily.

[Edited by - codeunknown on 12-19-2007 12:31 AM]

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by Vmart:

There are many problems on the Knicks but it starts and ends with Marbury, he is a coach killer and basically a player that wants to do things his way or he will screw you. Isiah lost his team because of MArbury. Instead of being a man about his benching he basically said screw you to Isiah. Folks its hands down Marbury. This and many other seasons were lost because of him. He is a terrible pg who doesn't have a clue about tempo and doesn't have a clue as to keep his teammates happy good pgs know how to do all of the above. Isiah can be blamed for bringing in the players but you can't blame Isiah for their performances even though he isn't the best coach players have to step up and a leader has to be developed and Isiah can be blamed for putting his eggs in the wrong basket.

Isiah didn't lose the team to Marbury, he gave it to him years ago. Every coach since has lost the team to Marbury, thanks to Isiah.

Thats where the wrong basket analogy comes in. Isiah finally realized that it will never work with Marbury but he had to realize it first hand and at the expense of some smart Hall of fame coaches its to bad Isiah didn't see this coming, but that is Isiah he is over confident and he has been humbled a bit by the lawsuit and his neighbor Stephon. I'm curious to know what the dirt on Isiah is that Marbury has on him.