The only guy on the list ahead of Curry that should have probably been there was DHoward...Shaq was injured the entire first half of the season...No other center in the East had the year Curry did....None...Check the numbers yourself...

There is no doubt about--Eddy Curry was on the threshold of being an NBA all star dominant type C last year. He led the league in FG% while going 20-7. He was clearly in better physical shape and was dominate against almost every opponent. In games where he was given +35 min he averaged 25-10 65%.

Turnovers and assists for bigmen arent really a factor. Patrick Ewing was a great player who turned the ball over way to much and was never a good passer. Curry is NOT the defensive force Patrick was--nor would he be in the same rebounding league--although he proves to be a good rebounder per 48 minutes. He clearly is not in as good as shape and his game has been fcked up. {he's clearly mentally weak}. How many NBA players can put up 20-7 60% right now? Barely ANY---the problem is we did NOT make sure Eddy stayed on some kind of strict regimen following the season and changed the entire way we were going basketball wise with the addition of Zach. Now the team is basically forced to go with Zach and see if it can raise eddy's value enough to get something relatively reasonable back. It doesnt matter what anyone says in a poll good or bad--there is a simple fact--Eddy and Zach CANNOT co-exsist--it wont work.

Posted by BRIGGS:

There is no doubt about--Eddy Curry was on the threshold of being an NBA all star dominant type C last year. He led the league in FG% while going 20-7. He was clearly in better physical shape and was dominate against almost every opponent. In games where he was given +35 min he averaged 25-10 65%.

Turnovers and assists for bigmen arent really a factor. Patrick Ewing was a great player who turned the ball over way to much and was never a good passer. Curry is NOT the defensive force Patrick was--nor would he be in the same rebounding league--although he proves to be a good rebounder per 48 minutes. He clearly is not in as good as shape and his game has been fcked up. {he's clearly mentally weak}. How many NBA players can put up 20-7 60% right now? Barely ANY---the problem is we did NOT make sure Eddy stayed on some kind of strict regimen following the season and changed the entire way we were going basketball wise with the addition of Zach. Now the team is basically forced to go with Zach and see if it can raise eddy's value enough to get something relatively reasonable back. It doesnt matter what anyone says in a poll good or bad--there is a simple fact--Eddy and Zach CANNOT co-exsist--it wont work.

Eddy put up good scoring stats but what makes him different from Zach or Steph (in his prime)? They all put up good stats in one or two areas on bad teams and they all aren't willing to do anything that doesn't show up in the box score to help their teams. Eddy puts up about 1 pt per 2 mpg. If games were extended and he played 60 mpg and didn't die of a heart attack, he'd probably average 30 PPG. That wouldn't mean he was an improved player.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 12-16-2007 08:04 AM]

Posted by nykshaknbake:

Scoring wise he did improve alot. You can say they force fed him but he kept shooting the same percentage. Usually if you force feed bad offensive players, the D will adjust and their shooting percentages will dip alot. other than that there hasn't been any rebounding or defensive improvement ever.

We fed him at about the same rate. We just gave him ten more mpg and shocking he scored 5 more PPG. (It would probably be more accurate to say we force-played, because no coach would play Eddy 35 mpg.)

Curry marginally improved but he has not made that huge leap that we need him to make to jusitfy the trade. I really believe that if he lost 25 lbs and kept his weight in the 265-269 pound range, he would gain the mobility that he is lacking to play defense and could move around more on offense. This guy needs to get committed to getting into great, not just good, shape.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by holfresh:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by nykshaknbake:

Scoring wise he did improve alot. You can say they force fed him but he kept shooting the same percentage. Usually if you force feed bad offensive players, the D will adjust and their shooting percentages will dip alot. other than that there hasn't been any rebounding or defensive improvement ever.

We fed him at about the same rate. We just gave him ten more mpg and shocking he scored 5 more PPG. (It would probably be more accurate to say we force-played, because no coach would play Eddy 35 mpg.)

forced-Played, Fed?....The guy shot 58 percent from the field last year...He couldn't be played straigh up in strethes last year.

That actually describes his entire career, including this season. Are you now admitting that he didn't improve last year?

I guess Kareem and Ewing was forced fed as well...If you pass it to a player in the post you are force feeding them??...By the way ALL coaches would be happy to see any player shot at a 58 percentage rate...You would be a fool as Isiah is this year not to feed this player....

Posted by BigC:

I think Curry is a player that only plays good if he is getting the ball. IF you don't give him the ball he will not try to do anything else. When Curry is not getting his shot attempts he is unmotivated.

I don't question that at all...The question is, Did his game show improvement last year and it clearly did...He was a beast last year...We feed him the ball..Now to go away from that beast is a mistake in my judgement...Zebo will get his points but Curry needs to be fed...

Posted by holfresh:


.Zebo will get his points but Curry needs to be fed...

yes, the full buffet.

a guy shooting 55% from the floor should be seeing the ball more than someone shooting 45% imo.

Posted by TMS:

a guy shooting 55% from the floor should be seeing the ball more than someone shooting 45% imo.

You can't examine FG% in isolation from other important stats related to offensive efficiency like turnovers, assists, and FTs attempted and made