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Is it possible that Jones should play ahead of Jamal?
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Vmart
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12/5/2007  11:28 PM
I still think the trade that needs to be made is Bibby for Stephon. Crawford had a nice game but consistency has always been his down fall. He couldn't give you 3 straight good games. Marbury needs a change of senery and in the NBA they tend to accomodate that very well. Its best for Stephon to move from NYK and maybe the west coast life will be better for him as it is more laid back.
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12/5/2007  11:37 PM
Bibby doesn't play any D either & he takes a lot of shots at a 40% clip... he doesn't balance out our backcourt at all... we need a Devin Harris type G who doesn't take that many shots but can knock shots down when he gets the opportunity at a high % & play shut down defense on the perimeter.

anyway, why would SAC make that deal when Bibby comes off the books at the same time as Steph & makes a lot less money.

[Edited by - TMS on 12-05-2007 8:38 PM]
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12/6/2007  12:14 AM
Posted by TMS:

Bibby doesn't play any D either & he takes a lot of shots at a 40% clip... he doesn't balance out our backcourt at all... we need a Devin Harris type G who doesn't take that many shots but can knock shots down when he gets the opportunity at a high % & play shut down defense on the perimeter.

anyway, why would SAC make that deal when Bibby comes off the books at the same time as Steph & makes a lot less money.

[Edited by - TMS on 12-05-2007 8:38 PM]


Dallas likes Devin Harris, why would they give the Knicks Devin Harris. Its a winning team and they don't look to make moves very often. Dallas feels that they are close and last year what happened was out of the ordinary. But you are right knicks need a passing pg but the only ones I can think of that might be available might be Tj Ford or Calderon what would you give up for them would you give this year number one pick protected and and expiring deal for TJ or Calderon I would consider it.
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12/6/2007  12:16 AM
i said a G like Devin Harris... someone who plays his style of game... defense, high percentage shotmaker, high basketball IQ.

i'm not trading our 1st rounder for anyone other than a franchise calibre player in a larger deal... Calderon is nice but he doesn't play much defense either.

[Edited by - TMS on 12-05-2007 9:19 PM]
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12/6/2007  12:20 AM
Its tough to find steady pg. I think the Knicks will get one in this years draft I like Gordon from Indiana. He plays tough defense shoots it and dishes it pretty good. Besides if Isiah is still around he isn't gonna pass up a Indiana player.
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12/6/2007  12:36 AM
i'm all for that idea dude... if u could draft a kid like that & then make a trade for a shotblocking low post defender, we'd finally start to see some semblence of team balance starting to develop.
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12/6/2007  4:14 AM
Posted by loweyecue:

People, we can WIN games as long as cancer and fat boy sits out, aren't you watching? Marbury and Curry should get DNPs all the way. We wont make the playoffs but at least we are playing basketball.

The Nets without Kidd are a pretty bad team. They're only a .500 team with him and they'd probably be a .300 team without him.
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12/6/2007  5:21 AM
just heard on Sportscenter that the Nets may start talks w/the Mavs, Cavs or Lakers for a possible trade for J Kidd.

Kidd on the Mavs? imagine how entertaining the Suns-Mavs games would become... Nash & Amare vs. Kidd & Dirk

i don't know how they can get a deal done w/o asking for Josh Howard tho, which DAL would never do.
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12/6/2007  5:48 AM
Posted by TMS:


i don't know how they can get a deal done w/o asking for Josh Howard tho, which DAL would never do.

Not to mention that the Nets would have 3 players who play the same position with Howard. I think it would have to be Howard and Terry for Kidd and Wright or Krstic, something like that.

Or Harris/Howard/Terry for Kidd/Carter.

Kidd back on the Mavs with Nowitzki? I think that team has championship written all over it.

oohah

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12/6/2007  7:24 AM
The Nets should trade Vince too. Both Vince and Kidd still have pretty good trade value and it's clear that keeping them will produce only a .500 team. They need to rebuild with RJ. Josh Howard and RJ are both versatile enough that I wouldn't worry about having them on the same team. It doesn't have to be a long-term plan, either. Both have great trade value.
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12/6/2007  6:35 PM
Posted by TMS:

i'm all for that idea dude... if u could draft a kid like that & then make a trade for a shotblocking low post defender, we'd finally start to see some semblence of team balance starting to develop.

Get Shelden Williams for cheap.
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12/6/2007  6:36 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by loweyecue:

People, we can WIN games as long as cancer and fat boy sits out, aren't you watching? Marbury and Curry should get DNPs all the way. We wont make the playoffs but at least we are playing basketball.

The Nets without Kidd are a pretty bad team. They're only a .500 team with him and they'd probably be a .300 team without him.


I agree, but we haven't exactly been winning against bad teams have we? We haven't been winning at all.
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12/6/2007  6:51 PM
did i miss something? didn't craw carry us last night?
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12/6/2007  8:27 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

did i miss something? didn't craw carry us last night?

he's carried us on many nights & he's shot us out of many nights... i happen to think he can still be part of the solution & not the problem, but what do i know.
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12/6/2007  11:28 PM
Nets are at .500 because they lost all 5 games Carter was out.
(and now sub .500 with Kidd's headache striking)
With their Big 3 playing they are a solid East playoff team.
And that's even with Krstic and 2 backup PG's out as well.
Is it possible that Jones should play ahead of Jamal?

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