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VDesai
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12/3/2007  9:31 AM
All the articles this morning say that he was at the game, it happened during the game and it appears that Steph wasn't told until after the game.

Now that's messed up.
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12/3/2007  9:39 AM
This is really disgusting- I HOPE they told him during the game. If not, that is utter crap.
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12/3/2007  9:42 AM

Let's just hope a family member like his mother made the call not to tell him until after the game...

When will the drama on Broadway end???

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12/3/2007  9:45 AM
Posted by holfresh:


Let's just hope a family member like his mother made the call not to tell him until after the game...

When will the drama on Broadway end???


Yup. That is NOT a decision an employer should be making for you.

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12/3/2007  9:47 AM
Marbury's father suffers heart attack during game
By MARC BERMAN

Can the Knicks’ season take any more grief?

The death of Stephon Marbury’s father, Donald Sr., who suffered an apparent heart attack at the Garden while watching the Phoenix game last night, threw the Knicks into a legitimate state of despair beyond the wins and losses.

Donald was rushed to St. Vincent’s hospital where he passed away. Marbury didn’t know about it until after the game. There’s no telling when he will return to the team.


It was such a bizarre scene after the game. The locker room was shut to reporters for 25 minutes, as they wondered what kind of new incident had transpired. When the reporters arrived, almost every Knick had cleared out, the ones who were left were ashen. Most of his teammates bolted, obviously to give Marbury his space to grieve.

Marbury was in the off-limits training room. Reporters were not told what was going on, though the expression on Knicks’ officials faces indicated something was very wrong.

Speculation was rampant another argument had taken place with him and Isiah Thomas, who was extremely sad during his postgame press conference. The door, usually open, was shut to the training room but Garden president Steve Mills could be seen through the cracks by the shower area, obviously consoling Marbury.

Marbury finally emerged, said a Bible verse about Jesus to the room and was whisked away by security and escorted out of the Garden where he headed to St. Vincent’s Hospital. It wasn’t until 20 minutes later when word started leaking to some reporters Marbury’s father had passed away.

Even before his father’s death, Marbury had admitted to confidants this was the most trying time of his career – his feud with Isiah Thomas, the deaths of his aunt and a coaching mentor, the boos at the Garden. Now he must console his mother, Mabel, whose lost five of her siblings the past few years. Marbury may need an extended leave of absence before he is fit to return.


Posted by Marc Berman on December 3, 2007 02:06 AM

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/knicks/archives/2007/12/by_marc_berman_12.html

[Edited by - vdesai on 12-03-2007 09:48 AM]
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12/3/2007  9:53 AM
We don't have full details of what happened, but that we are all so willing to expect the worst from this franchise demonstrates how little credibility they have.

This lack of credibility and class will really screw us. Kobe taking us off his wish list demonstrates where no longer an interesting destination for free agents. We probably can't even justify a traditional rebuild anymore. FAs wont want to come, and even our draft picks will want to flee at the first opportunity. All we can do is offer inflated contracts to wayward/embattled players and let them play for the love of money.

What we see is what we get with this team, we are who we are for a reason. There will be no remarkable turnarounds, or even baby steps on the path to glory. The franchise is rotten at the core and there can be no rebirth until the disease has finished running it's course.
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12/3/2007  10:06 AM
Posted by BlueSeats:

We don't have full details of what happened, but that we are all so willing to expect the worst from this franchise demonstrates how little credibility they have.

This lack of credibility and class will really screw us. Kobe taking us off his wish list demonstrates where no longer an interesting destination for free agents. We probably can't even justify a traditional rebuild anymore. FAs wont want to come, and even our draft picks will want to flee at the first opportunity. All we can do is offer inflated contracts to wayward/embattled players and let them play for the love of money.

What we see is what we get with this team, we are who we are for a reason. There will be no remarkable turnarounds, or even baby steps on the path to glory. The franchise is rotten at the core and there can be no rebirth until the disease has finished running it's course.

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Sad to say, it will have to be the death of both daddy and james dolan, that will set this franchise free. I don't want to wish that upon anyone for any reason, but I for once wish that both father and son were 99 years old..... with no children to pass the business on to.....
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12/3/2007  10:08 AM
Would the Knicks have hidden his fathers death to keep Stephon from leaving the game so they have a better chance of winning?

I mean that just seems insane. As bad as this team is, I cant see that being a decision. But it is being run by such inept people, it might be a possibility. If so, its as disgusting as it gets.

Although you know when my father died, the hospital didnt let me know until I got there, rather than tell me at home when I got a call he was in there. So who knows the protocol.
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12/3/2007  10:22 AM
Posted by Michael6835:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by MX25:

I'm sorry. If a high profile person like marbury's father is rushed to hospital. I'm positive high ranking knicks were informed. What was the excuse for not pulling him out and telling? Trying to win a game?

This just shows how disgusting dolan and this franchise has come.

none of us know what happened... there might have been different stories going back & forth & they might have wanted to wait til the facts were known for sure before telling Marbs about it... i highly doubt their concern was to win a game as being the reason they didn't tell Steph... that's idiotic.

thing is, if I am playing the game and my dad is there complaining about chest pains and then leaves, I would hope someone would tell me "hey your dad left."

I wouldn't put it past this organization to do something like that. Dolan let the sexual harassment case go to trial, that was also idiotic.

i completely agree w/u & i don't put the incompetence of this organization to be beyond such stupidity, but to think they deliberately hid this information because they were more concerned about winning the game? come on, do you people honestly believe stuff like that?
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12/3/2007  10:25 AM
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by FrenchKnicks:

People are so overreacting about this, it's crazy !

How do you figure? His father was removed from the arena during the game and they let Steph play out the game while his father was dying. Had they informed him he might have had a chance to spend some time with his dying father.

How is it overreaction to be disgusted by such actions by our franchise?

I can see plenty of reasons why... who tells you his father didn't leave on his own ? Do you think he informed all the staff at the Garden that he had chest pains ? Do you think a PR annoucement should have been made ? How could the Knicks coaches know about that ? If he's father was leaving cause he was tired or had a stomachache, should he have tell the NYK staff also ? Do you think anyone knew he was about to die... ????

I don't see why the NYK organization has anything to do with that !
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12/3/2007  10:36 AM
If it's true that team officials knew and decided not to tell Steph, that's sick. There needs to be an accounting of this.
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12/3/2007  10:42 AM
I posted an article, to which I'm trying to find a link to, in the other Steph's Dad thread.

Here's an excerpt:
Then word got out that Marbury lost his father Don during the game, but wasn't told about it until afterward because the Knicks didn't want the word getting to other family members second-hand, particularly on the 11 o'clock news.

I don't know what to make of that but it just doesn't sound like the right thing to do. Who are the Knicks to make such a decision if indeed they made it on their own? That's pathetic.
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12/3/2007  10:45 AM
Posted by holfresh:


Let's just hope a family member like his mother made the call not to tell him until after the game...

When will the drama on Broadway end???

If that was the case, I doubt Steph would have been reacting the way he did, stating that he'd never play for the Knicks again.
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12/3/2007  10:48 AM
Of course we could count on Berman to come through with the LOW CLASS reality that is MSG.


AWOL is a must at this point. Do what you have to do Steph!


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12/3/2007  10:55 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by holfresh:


Let's just hope a family member like his mother made the call not to tell him until after the game...

When will the drama on Broadway end???

If that was the case, I doubt Steph would have been reacting the way he did, stating that he'd never play for the Knicks again.

when someone close to u just passed away & u weren't told about it til later, it's hardly fair for anyone to expect you to think carefully & rationally about something like this.
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12/3/2007  11:06 AM
From all the news reports I have seen, his father had chest pains during the game and went to the hospital and died there. Thus, it seems highly unlikely than any of the Knicks coaches knew of his condition until after the game or shortly before the end of the game.

That being said, I could understand that if the coaching staff found out about it in the last minutes of the game, they thought it better to just wait until the game was over before telling him, especially if he had already died. Obviously, if they knew at halftime or even during the 3rd period, then Marbury should have been informed immediately.

[Edited by - thegame on 12-03-2007 11:11 AM]
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12/3/2007  11:23 AM
I don't think we will know for sure.
But Steph knows and this all that matters.
We'll see what he will do and we will know from that.
No need to speculate.
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12/3/2007  11:39 AM
I hope Steph takes his absolute time to recover from this. I agree that maybe it is best to part ways with the guy for his own sake and our sake as well, so we can both finally just go into the direction we need, but there HAS to be some logical reasoning why all of this happened. Perhaps he didn't actually complain about the chest pains to the Knicks officials and nobody knew of it until Stephs mother called?

I mean, I know the franchise has done some real crumby things in the past and it becomes this harder and harder to root for them, but they can't be THIS BAD, to not inform Steph of all of this. Please Knicks, prove to me that there's a reasonable explaination behind all of this. Pretty please?
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12/3/2007  12:08 PM
If the father walked out of the garden to bring himself to the hospital officials might not know about it, but if an ambulance was called that would be another matter.

But in either case, if the report is true that officials withheld info to protect the family, that would indicate they did know.
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12/3/2007  12:11 PM
A Garden official likely knew- they have attendants tending to family members of players all the time.

I wonder why the initial press release went out of its way to say that Steph's father was NOT at the Garden only to have that story changed this morning. Sounds like they were covering up. Considering the Observer story from earlier in the week, it makes it extremely hard to determine whether you're getting the full story from the Garden.
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