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izybx
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12/3/2007  5:28 AM
That sucks, Basketball will never be more important to me than family, and though i hate marbury the player i will say a prayer for him. God bless him and his family
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12/3/2007  6:18 AM
Fuck man! If its not one thing its another.

Since Marbs has been a Knick he has had to deal with constant tragedy. Most of which he started. He's under constant scrutiny. This season we all hate him, but he lost his Aunt, his childhood mentor, and his father! Its just too much for anyone to deal with in just about a months time, let alone the nonsense carried over his Knick career.

We joke about him being crazybury, etc.......but I think we all need to just fall back on the hate for a minute and just take a deep breath.

The bad energy that the media and fans feed on is killing the Knicks. I truly believe that. Again Marbury created a lot of it in without regret, but we have channeled it, all together making it a terrible situation spiritually.

I pray that not only Marbury, but everyone following this story, can learn that things happen for a reason. I believe God wants Marbury to grow up and be a real leader, not just to his basketball team, but to his familly, and the people he says he wants to help around him. I think he is kidding himself thinking he is something that he isn't. I think God is challenging him to be true to his new beliefs and finally mature into a real man overall.

As far as the fans and the media, we all were cheering for the possibilty of Marbury being traded last night. Calling for blood. How humbling is it that it wasn't the drama we all wanted, but the death of a mans father. Even with the dudes father dying suddenly, people here still feel the need to joke around. I think there is a real lesson to be learned here.

I know I am effected hard by this. I feel deep sorrow for Marbury and his family. I see the lesson that I need to learn and I hope that I can fully understand it and in turn apply it to my life. I also pray that you all can at least take a step back and gain some clarity, and peace within yourself.

R.I.P. Don Marbury.
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12/3/2007  6:37 AM
i don't know if any of us can fairly expect or even hope for Marbury to grow up & become a leader of this team because of this sad event that just occurred in his life... he is what he is as a player & i doubt that's gonna change... i feel horrible for him as a human being for having lost his father this way, but i gotta be honest, it doesn't change my disdain for this guy while he's wearing that Knicks uniform... i don't see anyone making jokes about the loss of his father here, not sure where you're going w/that one... none of us know Marbury or knew his dad... i'm pretty sure not many of the posters here even knew Stephon's dad's name before he died, so let's not all get carried away w/the expressed sorrow here... i'm pretty sure the NY media will give Marbs a break on the bashing for a little while while he mourns the loss of his dad, but i don't think anything's really changed in terms of people opinions about the guy.
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12/3/2007  6:59 AM
Damn what a year he is having, R.I.P. Don Marbury, basketball is not important in this thread
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12/3/2007  7:08 AM
RIP. I send my condolences to Stephon and his family.
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12/3/2007  7:26 AM
Posted by TMS:

i don't know if any of us can fairly expect or even hope for Marbury to grow up & become a leader of this team because of this sad event that just occurred in his life... he is what he is as a player & i doubt that's gonna change... i feel horrible for him as a human being for having lost his father this way, but i gotta be honest, it doesn't change my disdain for this guy while he's wearing that Knicks uniform... i don't see anyone making jokes about the loss of his father here, not sure where you're going w/that one... none of us know Marbury or knew his dad... i'm pretty sure not many of the posters here even knew Stephon's dad's name before he died, so let's not all get carried away w/the expressed sorrow here... i'm pretty sure the NY media will give Marbs a break on the bashing for a little while while he mourns the loss of his dad, but i don't think anything's really changed in terms of people opinions about the guy.

My view of the guy hasn't changed. Nor am I weeping over a dude that don't know. At the same time, I feel there is a lesson to be learned by Marbs as far as his evolution as a human being. As far as the rest of us? How things went down last night before the news broke, and whatever other ways this relates to us as individuals, there is a lesson to be learned as well.
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12/3/2007  7:43 AM
sorry, i wasn't really in touch w/how everything went down, just got the news on the boards actually... was there some mishandling of the information about his dad's death? what's all this about Marbury refusing to play ever again for the Knicks that holfresh posted about in the other thread?
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12/3/2007  8:33 AM
It is absolutely disgusting and disgraceful that this ignorant franchise did not pull Steph from the game.

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12/3/2007  8:40 AM
wow, he loses his aunt and now his dad. That's very difficult. He needs all the time in the world.

A tough time for marury
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12/3/2007  8:54 AM
terrible news. condolences to him and his family.
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12/3/2007  8:59 AM
Q Rich had to deal w/some tragic stuff like this too, as did Tim Thomas... as tragic as this is, this type of stuff is human reality... i'm sure we've all lost very close loved ones unexpectedly at some point or another... this stuff about the Knicks not telling Marbury about it sounds more to me like a case of misinformation that was being transferred back & forth & someone deciding it was better to wait til the facts were known before saying anything to Marbs about it... obviously the wrong idea, but i don't think they did this w/any malicious intent.
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12/3/2007  9:13 AM
MSG is informed of high profile individuals at games (such as player's family members) and security keeps a close watch on them.

If his father was stricken at half time, as it's been said, and removed from the arena with an apparent heart attack, which happened - then MSG knew about it, security knew about it, people at the arena who know who he was and know Marbury personally knew about it.

You don't think the proper thing to do would be to take Marbury aside and inform him his father was on the way to the hospital?

This reeks of ignorance. I don't know what MSG was thinking when they decided to let Marbury continue to play basketball while HIS FATHER WAS DYING.

It's an absolute disgrace no matter how objectively you try to assess the situation (IMO, of course).

If it comes out they purposely withheld information it's going to erupt. I don't want to hear how MSG thought it wasn't serious - THEY ARE NOT DOCTORS they are NOT the ones to make that call. I definitely do NOT want to hear something I'm sure we're all pondering - that Marbury playing gave the Knicks a chance to win the game, so f-it - he can hear about it later.


Regardless of opinion or fact MSG dropped the ball once again. It's disgusting.
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12/3/2007  10:19 AM
whether stupidity or sheer ignorance is the cause, i'm not arguing against... but to think they didn't inform Steph because they were more concerned about trying to win the game is a moronic notion.
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12/3/2007  10:22 AM
Posted by TMS:

whether stupidity or sheer ignorance is the cause, i'm not arguing against... but to think they didn't inform Steph because they were more concerned about trying to win the game is a moronic notion.

With ANY other organization, I think you're right TMS and it's a totally moronic notion on all fronts. I just can't put anything past this organization and it's their own fault for the years of mismanagement, ineptitude and constant circus.
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12/3/2007  10:26 AM
this is a sad thing when otherwise logical & intelligent fans of this team have been reduced to buying into such conspiracy theories to reason away this type of incompetence... y'all need to stop reading playa's 9/11 threads!
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12/3/2007  10:34 AM
Even with the dudes father dying suddenly, people here still feel the need to joke around. I think there is a real lesson to be learned here.

You're right Eny. It's not the time to joke about him, or take shots at his behavior, or put this in the context of how it will affect the Knicks.

Some dudes need to check their souls out.

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As far as whether or not MSG knew what was really going on, that remains to be seen. I don't think they knew his father was about to die, at least I don't want to believe it.

In my heart, I don't think Thomas knew it. I think Thomas would have held him out of the game. I can't imagine the rationale of whatever else happened, so I am going to reserve judgment until I know more. My guess is that nobody knew the seriousness. However, as far as I know, it is not customary to inform people of deaths while they are on the job or in class, situations like that.

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Yes, Marbury left the team hanging, and he has embarrassed the Knicks and himself over and over again in his career. He has also been a trooper playing through injury and most recently he showed up to play despite the deaths of his Aunt and his mentor.

This is the time to be a realize that Marbury is a real human being, and to show him some respect, even though he doesn't know us, because we are real human beings too.

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12/3/2007  10:37 AM
Posted by TMS:

this is a sad thing when otherwise logical & intelligent fans of this team have been reduced to buying into such conspiracy theories to reason away this type of incompetence... y'all need to stop reading playa's 9/11 threads!

TMS oneday , i might have an apology thread on 9/11 conspiracy knowing what's going on in our country today.

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12/3/2007  10:41 AM
Posted by oohah:
Even with the dudes father dying suddenly, people here still feel the need to joke around. I think there is a real lesson to be learned here.

You're right Eny. It's not the time to joke about him, or take shots at his behavior, or put this in the context of how it will affect the Knicks.

Some dudes need to check their souls out.

I just reread the entire thread to see what you're talking about. What are you talking about?

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12/3/2007  10:41 AM
I'm trying to find a link....someone posted just this article on another forum.

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Reporter's instinct gone awry

Usually a reporter's instinct is close to dead-on, particularly when you've been in the business for decades.

So, from the look and body language of Isiah Thomas after Sunday's loss to Phoenix, Stephon Marbury's behavior and the ghost town that was the Knicks' post-game locker room, practically every reporter at the Garden figured something was up between Thomas and Marbury.

And it wasn't good _ and most of us wrote it that way, some even pushing our laptop buttons to send it to be printed.

Then word got out that Marbury lost his father Don during the game, but wasn't told about it until afterward because the Knicks didn't want the word getting to other family members second-hand, particularly on the 11 o'clock news.

Sometimes, then, those instincts are glaringly wrong and thankfully, stories that were critical of Marbury's play (which Thomas didn't contradict by the in-game benchings of his point guard and his post-game remarks) didn't reach print.

So what's clearly been a tough season, even before that, for a lot of reasons (some of his own doing) _ Marbury's role in the Anucha Browne Sanders case, his flight home from Phoenix after his dispute with Thomas, the loss of an aunt (cousing Sebastian Telfair's grandmother) plus his coach and mentor, Robert Williams _ got even tougher.

How this plays out, of course, is anyone's guess, but don't expect to see Marbury until Friday's game in Philadelphia at the earliest, if then. After his aunt (his mother's sister) died last month, he said she was having a hard time.

It didn't get any easier Sunday after a game the Knicks could have won with a little more patience and the ability not to get caught up in the Suns' tempo.

Thomas seemed to blame that on Marbury when he answered a question about impatience by saying, "I'll keep that thgouht to myself."

At the time, the context seemed critical. In retrospect, the comment was critical, but cryptic, out of respect.

Thankfully, virtually all the stories you'll read Monday at least take the same tone.
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12/3/2007  10:49 AM
I just reread the entire thread to see what you're talking about. What are you talking about?

Check out Islesfan's response, the second line. It suggests that Marbury contributed to his father's death. It just isn't the time for that. Also, check out some of the other threads about this topic. We have folks talking about how they hope Marbury will sit out or never play again, etc. There are not a lot of comments of this nature, because most of us are sensitive enough to understand a man losing his father is more important than entertainment. But there are some.

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