Posted by TMS:

it was over after Isiah made the KVH trade... hell, it was probably over the day Dolan decided to hire Isiah in the first place... a lot of us just didn't know it yet.

Posted by BigC:

Posted by TMS:

it was over after Isiah made the KVH trade... hell, it was probably over the day Dolan decided to hire Isiah in the first place... a lot of us just didn't know it yet.

The things is the Knicks would have been so much better if they just tanked for a few years and not traded draft picks.

man, u ain't gotta tell me twice... i wanted them to tank the year Yao came out, then the year after when Lebron's awesome class was coming out... now i just want out period... watching this team embarass itself almost on a daily basis for the past 6 years is almost too much to bear.

Posted by holfresh:

Posted by martin:

Posted by holfresh:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by Bippity10:

Why does it take people so long to figure this cr-ap out?

During the LB year, the core of our team quit for an entire season, yet we are shocked when 2 years later they are still doing it?

[Edited by - bippity10 on 30-11-2007 06:41 AM]

Because they still want to believe that LB sabotaged the season and not Isiah. And they want to believe that LB quit on the season and not the players. Of course now that Isiah is still sabotaging and the players are still quitting, 2 seasons after LB, you'd think some people would start to figure out that LB wasn't the problem. He wasn't allowed to be part of the solution but you know for damn sure that he wasn't the problem.

Don't kid yourself, LB stunk this place up as much at Zeke and the rest of his gang...Starting players in their home towns...I'm really surprised that one didn't catch on around the league...

What's the difference between benching Marbury for Mardy and starting players in their home towns?

It should be a lesson about preparedness. LB's team was a young one, so why not start different guys. It's just like start a top 3 pick before he really deserves it.

There is a huge difference...one sends a message to a player that his play needs to improve...the other send a message to the team that you are not interested in winning...

Posted by holfresh:


One thing has nothing to do with the other...LB was trying to tank it here to get Isiah fired...He was trying to lose games....

This isn't college ball....

Posted by Knicksfan:

LB, Zeke, whats the difference? They both sucked or suck in NY.

Our team is a mess and fixing this will take many trades, many changes in the management and in coaching. So, whats left?

Be happy when this crappy team pulls a performance out of nowhere and wins. Because if you are watching the Knicks, you can see that the only consistent thing about them is their inconsistency.