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Briggs Feels Building Around Curry Is Logical?
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Bippity10
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11/30/2007  10:46 AM
Posted by VDesai:

If you get away from coddling Curry like this staff has, he still has some upside.

Great point. The coddling of our players should have stopped 3 years ago. We are more concerned with keeping them happy and confident and comfortable than we are about winning.
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11/30/2007  11:03 AM
Players you build around don't get threatened to be benched for 3weeks straight.
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11/30/2007  11:13 AM
Posted by MS:

Here is what you do:

GM: Colangelo
Coach: Mark Jackson or Rick Carlisle
Assistants: Ewing, Oakley

Fred Jones, Balkman, Collins for Artest
Nate Robinson and a pick for Kyle Lowry

Lowry-Crawford
Marbury-Q
Artest-Chandler
Zach-Lee
Eddy-Rose
If you want to get Collangelo to take over this mess, you're gonna have to give him like $100 mil a year. And we saw with Larry Brown what happens when you bribe the best name guy with a huge contract to come to the disastrous organization.
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11/30/2007  11:14 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BRIGGS:

What you want to do--essentially have the whole team bought out--is not an option. I think it was dumb moving away from the HUGE amount of progress Curry made last year and they put to much emphasis on getting talent over chemistry. I'm noy saying Curry is the franchise player we need to build around --rather a 24 YO C who can give me 20-24 6-8 57-60% from the C position and that we need help everywhere else. Our chemistry is wrecked and we need Starbury and crawford to play well or we will lose--and that wont happen every night for sure.


Building around a Center who doesn't want to and will not play D is a recipe for disaster. I think EY might be able to fetch us a Top 10 pick possibly that should be explored first and foremost.

It is not just defense, but he doesn't work hard enough on offense either. Curry should get 20ppg by accident, considering his size and agility alone!!! Your franchise player has to believe that the teams success depends on his all out and consistent play, he has to but into that and then work hard at fufilling his potential.... Curry just doesn't seem to do that.... he talks a good game tho....

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11/30/2007  11:15 AM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by VDesai:

If you get away from coddling Curry like this staff has, he still has some upside.

Great point. The coddling of our players should have stopped 3 years ago. We are more concerned with keeping them happy and confident and comfortable than we are about winning.

I'm not as familiar with his Chicago days, but Skiles definitely used to ride Curry about his laziness and lack of rebounding even in the press. He made the team run sprints when Curry would do something lazy when not tape his ankles in practice. Curry did improve in his last season under Skiles, but still didn't rebound or block shots. I sometimes wonder that maybe he can't be coached. But I really think if you had someone ride him to get in shape and give a better effort- you know physically beat him down- that's the only chance you get him to change.
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11/30/2007  11:18 AM
Posted by MS:

Here is what you do:

GM: Colangelo
Coach: Mark Jackson or Rick Carlisle
Assistants: Ewing, Oakley

Fred Jones, Balkman, Collins for Artest
Nate Robinson and a pick for Kyle Lowry

Lowry-Crawford
Marbury-Q
Artest-Chandler
Zach-Lee
Eddy-Rose

You were doing great until I saw your lineup. So you want to get rid of the guys like balkman that play hard, and replace them with headcases like artest, while keeping marbury, zach and curry? isn't that compounding the problem?

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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11/30/2007  11:22 AM
Curry is a loser. I would have liked to see if Ewing could have come in and taught him something, but what are the chances to lure Ewing here at this rate?

I don't think you can build around Curry. The two main problems are Marbury and Randolph. I think Curry and Crawford could be decent complimentary players (though their defense is just pathetic) with an intense all-star here to lead them, the question as always is how do you acquire such a player? We have to hope for a miracle in the draft at this point.
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11/30/2007  11:35 AM
Posted by King1:

I think Curry is a better option than Zach just put someone next to him that can rebound and play defense and get some guards that and chemistry is what this team is missing

if it's an either-or between zach and eddy, i actually may lean toward eddy. i think it will be easier to put someone next to him to compensate for his weaknesses. it's much easier to find a complementary PF than C. two of every three college teams has a 6'8, 6'9 guy who's a lunchpail rebounder and defender. whereas, teams keep shooting themselves in the foot trying to find that 7 footer to put next to their PF.

then again, i don't see how we can get anything back for zach after what we gave up over the summer, so we may be stuck with him.

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11/30/2007  11:52 AM
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by VDesai:

If you get away from coddling Curry like this staff has, he still has some upside.

Great point. The coddling of our players should have stopped 3 years ago. We are more concerned with keeping them happy and confident and comfortable than we are about winning.

I'm not as familiar with his Chicago days, but Skiles definitely used to ride Curry about his laziness and lack of rebounding even in the press. He made the team run sprints when Curry would do something lazy when not tape his ankles in practice. Curry did improve in his last season under Skiles, but still didn't rebound or block shots. I sometimes wonder that maybe he can't be coached. But I really think if you had someone ride him to get in shape and give a better effort- you know physically beat him down- that's the only chance you get him to change.

Yeah, you may have a point. It's really difficult getting through to some players. Some people/players are just inherently passive. They don't have that inner anger, that drive, that will to be the best. I don't hate the player for that, I just know you can't build around guys like that, unless you change them.

Man, I don't get it. I'm 70 years old and have lost a lot of my game. But still to this day, if a person even tries to make a move when I'm playing defense I take it personally. The mere fact that an offensive player thinks he can score on me, is enough to make me want to kill him. Nothing excites me more than being one of the smaller guys and outrebounding everyone. Nothing gets me going more than seeing a teammate make a nasty move after a pass I made. It's the whole reason why I play and coach team sports. The drive to do whatever it takes. It makes me physically ill to watch these players quit in games. And we've seen it over 40 times in the last 3 years. And yet we are told not to be upset. It's just another game. But I guess when you are making millions, it is JUST ANOTHER GAME.
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11/30/2007  12:07 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

And yet we are told not to be upset. It's just another game. But I guess when you are making millions, it is JUST ANOTHER GAME.

Right. It's just a loss. No big deal. Losses happen.

Once you get your lobotomy it'll be a lot easier to understand, and you'll feel happier.
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11/30/2007  12:17 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:

And yet we are told not to be upset. It's just another game. But I guess when you are making millions, it is JUST ANOTHER GAME.

Right. It's just a loss. No big deal. Losses happen.

Once you get your lobotomy it'll be a lot easier to understand, and you'll feel happier.

I believe I have one scheduled for tonight at 7:30
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