Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Bonn1997:

I bet the team would finish with a better record at the end of the season if Dalembert was the starting center. The fact that we're even debating this tells you how bad giving up multiple lottery picks for Curry was.

the same holds true for Zach... that doesn't mean you make the trade... Curry has more trade value than Dalembert whether you hate Curry or not.

The same holds true for Zach...and I'd gladly trade Zach for Dalembert, but I doubt Philly would. There's no point from Philly's perspective in taking an extra $17 mil in salary for Zach when he has so many problems. MAYBE you could get more than Dalembert for Eddy. I'm not sure. You could probably get a draft pick around #20, although I'm not sure that's actually better than Dalembert. If we had a GM and owner who wanted to get under the cap or at least have players who weren't drastically overpaid, then I'd rather get an expiring contract for Eddy (and Zach and most of our vets) than get Dalembert and just start over. What kinds of trades did you have in mind?

like i said, i'd trade Curry for Dally if Dre Miller was coming in the deal... that fills 2 big holes we currently have... another player i'd trade Curry for right now is Brad Miller... someone that makes actual sense & complements the other players we have on this team by adding things we're currently lacking... of course, if u can use Curry in a deal to land a blockbuster like Kobe in the offseason as part of some megadeal, u go for that as well... i don't see how trading Curry for a pick in the 20's helps us in any way shape or form when a kid like Wilson Chandler can't even get any minutes playing behind scrubs like Jared Jefferies.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Bonn1997:

I bet the team would finish with a better record at the end of the season if Dalembert was the starting center. The fact that we're even debating this tells you how bad giving up multiple lottery picks for Curry was.

the same holds true for Zach... that doesn't mean you make the trade... Curry has more trade value than Dalembert whether you hate Curry or not.

The same holds true for Zach...and I'd gladly trade Zach for Dalembert, but I doubt Philly would. There's no point from Philly's perspective in taking an extra $17 mil in salary for Zach when he has so many problems. MAYBE you could get more than Dalembert for Eddy. I'm not sure. You could probably get a draft pick around #20, although I'm not sure that's actually better than Dalembert. If we had a GM and owner who wanted to get under the cap or at least have players who weren't drastically overpaid, then I'd rather get an expiring contract for Eddy (and Zach and most of our vets) than get Dalembert and just start over. What kinds of trades did you have in mind?

like i said, i'd trade Curry for Dally if Dre Miller was coming in the deal... that fills 2 big holes we currently have... another player i'd trade Curry for right now is Brad Miller... someone that makes actual sense & complements the other players we have on this team by adding things we're currently lacking... of course, if u can use Curry in a deal to land a blockbuster like Kobe in the offseason as part of some megadeal, u go for that as well... i don't see how trading Curry for a pick in the 20's helps us in any way shape or form when a kid like Wilson Chandler can't even get any minutes playing behind scrubs like Jared Jefferies.

Dre Miller's a good PG. I'd love to get him but I think we'd have to do something to sweeten the deal. The Brad Miller trade makes sense. I can't see Isiah doing either trade after he gave up so much for Eddy, though. We're gonna live or die--which means die--with Eddy.

Dre miller is over rated and so is Dalembert. I'll pass.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Killa4luv:

Dre miller is over rated and so is Dalembert. I'll pass.

so is Curry if u really think about it... the question is who fits the team more at this point? a shotblocking & rebounding C & a PG who knows how to run an offense, or an offensive minded C who doesn't play defense or rebound with any consistency?

i'm not trying to knock Curry's game... i know what he is & appreciate him for what he does well... but this Curry/Zach front court is not gonna work imho.

[Edited by - TMS on 11-27-2007 6:33 PM]

I hear you and should have addressed that point. The idea of the trade is good, Dalembert just isnt the guy. Dalembert & Miller dont make it any better, I have not been impressed with Miller as a pg.

Dalembert is decent when hes healthy, but injuries are a concern. Also, he is no monster on the boards, 8 rpg on Philly is weak. His strengths are what we need, but we dont need him specifically, imo.

Curry is what he is. He is dominant on offense, demands a double team, scores at a very high percentage. turns over the ball alot, doesn't pass, rebound, or block well, tho shows the potential to block, and rebound decently. Thats who he is, I'd rather have that than have Dalembert.

If Curry has more trade value than Dalembert, which I agree, and "supposedly", every team would change their pick for Eddy Curry (which I doubt very much), then maybe Curry + fred jones expiring contract for Dalembert and Philadephia 1st round pick could be a decent trade.

Brad Miller?? Mike bibby?? Miller is finished and does not play defense, and Bibby is good but we have no room for him. Artest is the only one I want from the Kings

Ok, I was exagerating. Maybe not finished yet, but very much on the way of being so. I dont think his defense is good by any means. When has Sacramento played defense in the past years? We have seen Is not just his fault, I know that, but just because he is a smart and intelligent player does not mean his defense is good. He tries but he is slower than Kurt Thomas, cant jump nor rebound nor block very much, which is what we need in my opinion. On top of that, his offense consists just on jump shots. Brad Miller is an improvement over what we had in Kurt Thomas for me, just that. I dont hate the guy nor think he is a bad basketball player, I just think he is FAR from being what we need on our froncourt.

i disagree w/u on Miller... i think he's a heady player & would love to have him on this team... he would fit in much better next to Zach or Eddy than the current situation is now... all of them have heinous contracts anyway.

Posted by TMS:

i disagree w/u on Miller... i think he's a heady player & would love to have him on this team... he would fit in much better next to Zach or Eddy than the current situation is now... all of them have heinous contracts anyway.

We're definitely going to have to agree to disagree then.

no thanks to this guy

tell u the truth i'd rather have KT than Zach on this team right now.

Posted by Killa4luv:

Posted by TMS:

tell u the truth i'd rather have KT than Zach on this team right now.

wow. Too Much Sniffing.

Contract dude... nothing less, nothing more... look at this team get completely embarassed by the Celtics tonight on national TV... we coulda got blown out w/KT on the floor & saved all that money... Zach hasn't done squat to improve this team.