Posted by PresIke:
Posted by BlueSeats:
This is where PresIke comes in to tell us Joe is being condescending because everyone knows this already, and Nixluva tells us this is what he's been saying for years.
And where you come in and demonstrate how little you understand our perspectives through your attempt at humiliating us.
Dumar's point isn't addressed at Knicks fans, so your attempt makes even less sense other than trying to take a cheap shot at me. What he said is what any person who knows anything about team sports can say. Did you not know this? Point is I don't know players personally, so I'm not the one making judgements as a GM or coach. What I can ask is do people learn this or is it something inherit? Isiah probably thought that he could be a leader and role model to help change some habits, which btw, has psychologically been proven to be effective on human beings for influencing others in their behavior (Social Learning Theory). There are reasons why
it does not always work, especially as people get older and more set in their beliefs, but not necessarily.
[Edited by - PresIke on 11-21-2007 4:16 PM]
Pres, I've never derided your opinions in the past, in spite of us usually being on opposite sides of the issues. But today I find it odd to see you and 'luva, two of the most "optimistic" "supporters" talking like you've seen this coming all along - to the extent that when a journalist says firing Isiah wont cure the Knicks ills you find it condescending, as if all our problems have been obvious to you for so long. It just rings as ironic, because while those problems have been obvious to some ("haters") for a long time, you and 'luva seemed at the forefront of those least inclined to fear their consequences.
You'll tell me it's been otherwise, that's it's all been a huge misunderstanding on my part, but I'm sure I'm not the only one to perceive this.
