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djsunyc
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11/18/2007  10:08 AM
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arkrud
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11/18/2007  10:32 AM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by Queeniepop:

NIX: Wake UP! WAKE UP! The situation needs to END NOW.

I am not saying that we should blow the team up...I am saying that Isiah needs to go!

You see it in the players' faces, many of those you like and may want to have as part of the future. Its TOO MUCH and its UNFAIR.

Let me ask you...how would you feel if your coach and teammate betrayed you because of their own personal issues...ISIAH IS DOING AN ABSOLTELY DEPLORABLE AND DISGUSTING JOB AT COACHING. He is bad for the team, bad for their mental health, bad for the organization. The DAMAGE is done.

Let me ask you, NIXLUVA, do you go to games at MSG? If so, how often? When was the last game? Are you from NY? DO you read the papers? Do you know the players? WHat do you really know about this team and Isiah that makes you so empathetic to him?? He is RUINING our team and KILLING the hope of not only the players, but every single fan that wants the Knicks to do well.

IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE KNICKS, "NIX-LUVA," you would be able to actually see that even the most loyal fans, who LUV the NIX, want Isiah and his little b-tch Marbury GONE.

I've told my story many times, but suffice it to say that i'm a fan since just after the glory days ended. I've been a fan since before Cable TV and live Postseason games. I now live in Georgia, so I don't go to the Garden anymore. I never miss a game on MSG and I go to Knick games down in the south.

The idea that Isiah needs to go, doesn't bother me. I've been here for an awful lot of coaches and he's no different to me than any other. I have no love or affinity for him beyond the fact that he's the current coach and until he's fired I want to see this team win. I'm not rooting for Isiah to win, but for the KNICKS to win. After 9 games i'm not anxious to just get rid of him cuz I don't see a successor ready to take over. It wouldn't be any better for the team to just throw some guy in there right now if he's not the right man for the job either. Before making such a drastic move, I want to be sure that this isn't just a glitch in the road that can happen to any team at anytime during a season. I've been successful in my life by not being given to rash decisions and I think that this has to be thought out and not done in a rush to please fans. We'll know soon enough if he should go or not. Giving him the rest of the month isn't too long.

Further I don't trust Dolan. I trust him even less if he has to make a rush decision based on media and fan pressure. The idea isn't to just fire Isiah with no plan. The idea is to get someone who can do a better job if that's what is necessary, so what's the rush?

Do you want to see another 10 loses without any hope?


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Bippity10
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11/18/2007  10:40 AM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Bippity10:

I think Isiah just needs a little more time. Let them team get over the Marbury incident. Let Zach get his head straight. Let all the injured players heal completely. Then when the conditions are absolutely perfect for us, we can then start to judge our team

do you know how long we may have to wait for eddy's yeast infection to clear up!?!?

Well the Yeast infection was unexpected so let's give it time. Isiah can't be held responsible for YEast infections............God you haters are out of control.
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Nalod
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11/18/2007  10:47 AM
If Marbury stays, then a new coach won't matter unless you bench him.

I think actually Marbury is the smart one because he LEFT this team and went home! That is the most logical thing he has ever done!!!
Michael6835
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11/18/2007  10:55 AM
ive been a Thomas supporter for a long time, but even I know now that he must GO an go fast. He should be fired before Tuedays game. Marbury should be suspended and subsequently bought out. These 2 guys have got to go, the team has lost confidence. We are lucky in a way, because this is happening so early on in the season. There is a good chance that if management (laughing to myself because that includes Dolan) acts now and doesn't let it string along that we might be able to salvage the season. The talent is there, and the guys might be eager to prove that they are a better team with out the two. I have officially given up on Thomas and Marbury.
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nixluva
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11/18/2007  10:59 AM
Posted by arkrud:

Do you want to see another 10 loses without any hope?
Can you guarantee me that Dolan and Mills will hire the right people if they fired Isiah right now? It's not such an easy proposition. Who can you trust? Since you know I only want the team to win, you already know that I don't want to see another 10 losses. I already have hope that this team can turn it around, so i'm not without hope right now.

It's simple. You just keep working and playing the games. That's what all the teams in the same situation as us are doing. NJ has lost 5 in a row, Chi just got off the snide last night and are 2-6, Houston has lost 4 in a row. Indy had lost 6 in a row and just broke that streak. Recently Wash, has won 4 in a row after being on a losing streak. It's early and bad things happen to teams over the course of the regular season. This team has to fight thru this and find a way to break through.

BasketballJones
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11/18/2007  11:01 AM
Posted by Bippity10:

I think Isiah just needs a little more time. Let them team get over the Marbury incident. Let Zach get his head straight. Let all the injured players heal completely. Then when the conditions are absolutely perfect for us, we can then start to judge our team

Finally, someone is talking sense.

We've got to keep the big picture in mind and realize what Isiah's up against. The Knicks will be fine with Thomas once the following conditions are met: 1) The players recover from the psychological trauma caused by having to play for Larry Brown; 2) All the players are healthy; 3) The fans understand that they just can't boo their team and expect them to win on any regular basis; 4) The refs realize that the Knicks just can't win without their help.



[Edited by - BasketballJones on 11-18-2007 11:01]
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djsunyc
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11/18/2007  11:04 AM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:

I think Isiah just needs a little more time. Let them team get over the Marbury incident. Let Zach get his head straight. Let all the injured players heal completely. Then when the conditions are absolutely perfect for us, we can then start to judge our team

Finally, someone is talking sense.

We've got to keep the big picture in mind and realize what Isiah's up against. The Knicks will be fine with Thomas once the following conditions are met: 1) The players recover from the psychological trauma caused by having to play for Larry Brown; 2) All the players are healthy; 3) The fans understand that they just can't boo their team and expect them to win on any regular basis; 4) The refs realize that the Knicks just can't win without their help.

and don't forget #5 - clarence weatherspoon dies. just knowing that guy is alive is holding this team back.

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11/18/2007  11:34 AM
Isiah and Marbury has to go now...The only way they could have recovered after Marbury's stunt was for Isiah to bench Marbury the entire trip out west...Marbury had to profusely apologize in the press the entire time...I would have gone further taking out full page adds in all the local papers in NY...

Nothing happen, Isiah lost what little cred he had with the players and now with the few fans who supported him...Marbs is just hard to watch in a Knick uniform...I not sure how you recover from this...Wins I guess, but this team is just going through the motions right now...Season is over, Done and we are not out of November yet...Who would have thunk these guys are so thick in the head after all that happened in the offseason...

These guys are managing multimillion dollar enterprises and don't have advisors...Amazing...

[Edited by - holfresh on 11-18-2007 11:43 AM]
King1
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11/18/2007  3:41 PM
I am going to go put a gun to my head after I say this: HOLFRESH I AGREE WITH YOU.
nixluva
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11/18/2007  4:11 PM
Posted by holfresh:

These guys are managing multimillion dollar enterprises and don't have advisors...Amazing...
Unfortunately this is the nature of pro sports franchises. We're not the only team that's run poorly by a rich owner who thinks he knows what he's doing, but we are the posterchild for it tho.

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