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tkf
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11/14/2007  12:04 AM
Posted by bobs3304:
Posted by djsunyc:

curry looks huge.

he had a point blank dunk blocked by amare. yikes.

zach makes curry very expendable.

4 #1's...oh boy...

Agree.

Then again, for me........Lee makes Zach expendable.

1) We haven't had a good white player since Dave Debeucherre. Yes......it matters.

2) Lee plays like he wants to WIN. Zach plays like he wants to get into an AllStar game.


No lee doesn't. Lee I think is a great 6th man.. he just does not posess zach randolph skills.. plain and simple..
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11/14/2007  12:04 AM
Posted by islesfan:
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Anyone that doesn't know the difference in the importance of a point guard (floor general) and a man who gets the ball thrown to him for a lay up doesn't know basketball. If the coach is looking for "leadership" and someone to be an extention of himself on the court it starts wit Marbury. Even Q Rich said that "people" need to RUN THE PLAYS COACH IS CALLING FOR. I doubt he's talking about Curry when he is accusing people of "breaking the plays". That's the opposite of leadership when you start getting selfish. Point guard CONTROLS the tempo and the whole 9. Not rocket science.

Defense and leadership. Something that Duncan and KG offer by the boatload.

Do they play PG? I didn't think so.

Do you think the PG play would be helped if Curry played defense and knew how to defend a pick and roll? I think so.

isles- its this extreme stuff that I can't agree with- don't know where your going

curry is younger than marbury- and I think the key thing is there isn't someone on the bench that is nearly as good talent wise able to expend the effort to be effective.

I also think Marbury isn't running plays he's been told to run- is it stupidity, lack of focus? Either way, I think Isiah is trying to make marbs stronger.
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11/14/2007  12:07 AM
Tk:

Zach Randolph is a TOXIC PLAYER.

He's in the same boat as Marbury, Artest, K-Mart, and Fatoine Walker.


Zbo wouldn't think twice about pulling the same stunt Marbury just did.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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11/14/2007  12:09 AM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by islesfan:

Speaking of Zach, was he spotted in any strip clubs over the weekend?

Not to be callous but who gets 5 days off from work when a grandparent dies?

I said the same thing today..... My mother died in 2001 and I took a week, came back and then took some more time off to myself when things slowed down....

I think the story is he was very close to his grandma - she helped raise him or something.
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11/14/2007  12:14 AM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by islesfan:

Speaking of Zach, was he spotted in any strip clubs over the weekend?

Not to be callous but who gets 5 days off from work when a grandparent dies?

I said the same thing today..... My mother died in 2001 and I took a week, came back and then took some more time off to myself when things slowed down....

I think the story is he was very close to his grandma - she helped raise him or something.

He is defenetally not so close with Isiah...

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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11/14/2007  12:19 AM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by bobs3304:
Posted by djsunyc:

curry looks huge.

he had a point blank dunk blocked by amare. yikes.

zach makes curry very expendable.

4 #1's...oh boy...

Agree.

Then again, for me........Lee makes Zach expendable.

1) We haven't had a good white player since Dave Debeucherre. Yes......it matters.

2) Lee plays like he wants to WIN. Zach plays like he wants to get into an AllStar game.


No lee doesn't. Lee I think is a great 6th man.. he just does not posess zach randolph skills.. plain and simple..

Lee is a Udonis Haslem type. Nice player, nice role player but should never be confused with a highly skilled starter.
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11/14/2007  12:21 AM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by islesfan:

Speaking of Zach, was he spotted in any strip clubs over the weekend?

Not to be callous but who gets 5 days off from work when a grandparent dies?

I said the same thing today..... My mother died in 2001 and I took a week, came back and then took some more time off to myself when things slowed down....

I think the story is he was very close to his grandma - she helped raise him or something.

Mike Nolan, the head coach of the 49ers, lost his dad over the weekend. Mike coached last night.

Just saying.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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11/14/2007  12:23 AM
Posted by s3231:

Eddy is like a glorified Maurice Taylor...I can't believe we have depended on this guy to be a franchise player.
Not Maurice Taylor... more like Tractor Trailer...
Actually this guy had more heart...

[Edited by - arkrud on 11-14-2007 12:23 AM]
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11/14/2007  12:24 AM
Isn't Zach Randolph a glorified Mo Taylor?



[Edited by - bobs3304 on 14-11-2007 12:24 AM]
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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11/14/2007  12:24 AM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by islesfan:

Speaking of Zach, was he spotted in any strip clubs over the weekend?

Not to be callous but who gets 5 days off from work when a grandparent dies?

I said the same thing today..... My mother died in 2001 and I took a week, came back and then took some more time off to myself when things slowed down....

I think the story is he was very close to his grandma - she helped raise him or something.

yea, I figured that....
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11/14/2007  12:24 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by islesfan:

Speaking of Zach, was he spotted in any strip clubs over the weekend?

Not to be callous but who gets 5 days off from work when a grandparent dies?

I said the same thing today..... My mother died in 2001 and I took a week, came back and then took some more time off to myself when things slowed down....

I think the story is he was very close to his grandma - she helped raise him or something.

Mike Nolan, the head coach of the 49ers, lost his dad over the weekend. Mike coached last night.

Just saying.

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11/14/2007  12:30 AM
Posted by s3231:

Eddy is like a glorified Maurice Taylor...I can't believe we have depended on this guy to be a franchise player.

That tells you the state of the franchise
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11/14/2007  12:31 AM
TKF you seriously need to consider changing that Sig.
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11/14/2007  12:31 AM
Lol, Eddy isn't even a glorified version.

He IS Mo Taylor, just 2 or 3 inches taller.

DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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11/14/2007  12:33 AM
The reality is, this is the year we're supposed to win. If we were willing to build a serious foundations and play the lottery this summer isiah could rightly demand something of his players.

Instead he's finally being asked to play by the same rules as those he's fired before him. Don't stir the waters, coddle them, don't think about the team's future, just win with what you have.

And benching Marbury isn't a bad idea.
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11/14/2007  12:38 AM
Posted by BlueSeats:

The reality is, this is the year we're supposed to win. If we were willing to build a serious foundations and play the lottery this summer isiah could rightly demand something of his players.

Instead he's finally being asked to play by the same rules as those he's fired before him. Don't stir the waters, coddle them, don't think about the team's future, just win with what you have.

And benching Marbury isn't a bad idea.

Throwing him under the... truck is even better idea.

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11/14/2007  12:38 AM
Every year we have been supposed to win. Last year was supposedly Curry's time, along with Francis and Marbury. Remember Jale Rose? Remember Tim Thomas? We keep making trades to win now but we always trade for players that don't fit on winning teams, on teams that have nice chemistry and now how to play defense and how important the intangibles are.

We need a new focus. We need a new GM to bring a new direction. We need a new coach to bring a new attitude. And we need some new players to make that attitude be real, rather than a nice ideal like we've had the last seasons. To sum it up, we need to get rid of everything thats flawed, and many things are in this franchise...
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11/14/2007  12:44 AM
We just need to give Dolan, Isiah, Mills & Marbury more time - like until 2022 or so - to get this thing together.
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11/14/2007  7:19 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:

TKF you seriously need to consider changing that Sig.

LOL!
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11/14/2007  7:51 AM
Also why is crawford getting a starting pass, he is actually one of our worst defenders in history.

McCants was burning the **** out of him
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