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arkrud
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11/12/2007  2:52 PM
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by Panos:

What things are we considering? That this is not a well-constructed team?

Yes.
They are not a well constructed team.
Isiah is not the GM to fix the same mess he made.
Isiah is not a very good coach although who could coach this roster? Nobody.

The other things you'd consider if you thought this was a team on the rise which I really don't but they are still considerations.

Injuries
New Faces.


As to injuries it's no longer an excuse when the same guys are always injured it's just reality that they are injury prone and not to be counted on.

New faces: Well, stop making changes, then stop realizing the changes you made stunk and trying to make more changes.


Yet, they are considerations all the same and factor in to a potential ceiling of ~41 wins and a possible playoff berth.


Not happy with it, just analyzing it for what it is.

"analyzing it for what it is" equal to hating the team.
Bacuse nobody can like this.
So the only way to love the team is to leave in imaginary world.



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Bippity10
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11/12/2007  2:54 PM
arkrud is relentless
I just hope that people will like me
Cosmic
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11/12/2007  3:10 PM
Posted by arkrud:

"analyzing it for what it is" equal to hating the team.
Bacuse nobody can like this.
So the only way to love the team is to leave in imaginary world.

Nah, they're two different things. You can analyze a situation or you can just plain hate on it.

I don't like this not one bit.

I pretty much agree I don't see where any eternal optimism can come from this mess and where any thought that it will magically improve if just given time comes from.



However, the point I am trying to make is: Is anyone surprised we are 2-3? Did anyone expect anything different given the makeup of this team (aka as all things considered)? Would anyone expect to be any better than 4-6 after 10?

Of course not...so I don't see the outrage on either side of the hater/lover argument.



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VDesai
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11/12/2007  8:03 PM
Losing an 11.6 million dollar sexual harassment suit couldn't get Isiah fired. Unless he shows up to heckle JD and The Straight Shot I'd say he's here for at least the whole year.
bobs3304
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11/12/2007  8:58 PM
^ Yea seriously, Isiah could be diddling his daughter, and it probly wouldn't happen.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
NineMike2Whiskey
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11/12/2007  11:19 PM
Posted by nixluva:

I think he was taken out of the game mentally by the tussle with Foyle and the lack of touches. He's got to get mentally stronger when it comes to nights like this.

There in lies Curry biggest problem by far along with his defense. Is he actually afraid of picking up fouls on the defensive end thereby limiting presence on there? I'm a big fan of Zach and i think with him here there is less of a burden on Curry to score all by himself on the low block, freeing him up to contribute much more on the defensive end. Now with another bonafide low post scorer it isnt too late to reinvent himself slightly as a defensive presence. I mean the tools are there, the pressure to produce on offense has been reduced, what more can you ask?????

miami then 4 game road trip.....sigh

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