Posted by tkf:

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Posted by TrueBlue:



He and Noah are going to be a lethal combination. It's going to be like having 2 AK47 on the team maybe even better.

Overstatement of the year?

yea, that is way over the top.. LOL.. both guys together don't have the skills AK has. I don't know if people really watch AK, the guy is a superb passer, on and off the ball defender and a better scorer than tyrus and noah may ever be... I mean come on.... LOL..

I didn't say they currently are the equivalent to AK47 I said they have the makings of becoming him. They have the ability to rebound, block shots, pass, finish on lead and finish a break, score inn traffic strong, play great post and help defense. Tyrus has a 12ft jumper now but they both need to improve their perimeter shooting.

you just described quite a few players in this league... A lot of players have "the makings". The problem I have with both tyrus and noah is their skill level. Neither I think will ever become good enough scorers to take them to that next level, meaning AK-47 type all around player. Did you see noah shoot FT's ? worst form known to mankind.. tyrus relies on athleticism, but the guy doesn't seem to think much when he is on the court, stupid mistakes, he is just to hyper, sort of like Dan gadzurich in that way. guys like that are good off the bench, give them enough minutes to come in and energize a team, but not too many minutes to do stupid shyt like touching your teamates jumpers before they go in the rim....



[Edited by - tkf on 09-11-2007 02:38 AM]

There aren't a lot of young players in ths league that can do all of those things. There may be a handful of young players who even have a hint of becoming AK47. Tyrus is definitely one of those few. It's not like AK47 is tearing up the league in scoring/shooting right now himself. AK47 is mainly known for filling up the stat sheet with his 5,5,5,5,5,(5pts,5ast,5reb,5stls,5blks). And of course in your argument you'd focus on the player that's only played 5gms in his NBA career while ignoring the emerging star in Thomas.

So far on the season

AK47 34min 10.2pts, 5reb, 5ast, 2.5blks, .6stl 46%fg
TT 30min 10.4pts, 8reb, 2ast, 2blks, 1.5stls 47%fg


I think I made a very good comparison. Matter of fact put TT another yr from now in Sloan's sytem and I'd wager any amount he'd duplicate what AK47 gives.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by bobs3304:

Posted by TrueBlue:



He and Noah are going to be a lethal combination. It's going to be like having 2 AK47 on the team maybe even better.

Overstatement of the year?

yea, that is way over the top.. LOL.. both guys together don't have the skills AK has. I don't know if people really watch AK, the guy is a superb passer, on and off the ball defender and a better scorer than tyrus and noah may ever be... I mean come on.... LOL..

I didn't say they currently are the equivalent to AK47 I said they have the makings of becoming him. They have the ability to rebound, block shots, pass, finish on lead and finish a break, score inn traffic strong, play great post and help defense. Tyrus has a 12ft jumper now but they both need to improve their perimeter shooting.

you just described quite a few players in this league... A lot of players have "the makings". The problem I have with both tyrus and noah is their skill level. Neither I think will ever become good enough scorers to take them to that next level, meaning AK-47 type all around player. Did you see noah shoot FT's ? worst form known to mankind.. tyrus relies on athleticism, but the guy doesn't seem to think much when he is on the court, stupid mistakes, he is just to hyper, sort of like Dan gadzurich in that way. guys like that are good off the bench, give them enough minutes to come in and energize a team, but not too many minutes to do stupid shyt like touching your teamates jumpers before they go in the rim....



[Edited by - tkf on 09-11-2007 02:38 AM]

There aren't a lot of young players in ths league that can do all of those things. There may be a handful of young players who even have a hint of becoming AK47. Tyrus is definitely one of those few. It's not like AK47 is tearing up the league in scoring/shooting right now himself. AK47 is mainly known for filling up the stat sheet with his 5,5,5,5,5,(5pts,5ast,5reb,5stls,5blks). And of course in your argument you'd focus on the player that's only played 5gms in his NBA career while ignoring the emerging star in Thomas.

So far on the season

AK47 34min 10.2pts, 5reb, 5ast, 2.5blks, .6stl 46%fg
TT 30min 10.4pts, 8reb, 2ast, 2blks, 1.5stls 47%fg


I think I made a very good comparison. Matter of fact put TT another yr from now in Sloan's sytem and I'd wager any amount he'd duplicate what AK47 gives.

I think when most people make AK47 comparisons, they assume it refers to the AK47 from 2003 to 2006 (i.e., the really good player). If he'd played like he is now for his whole career, no one would make AK47 comparisons. Probably very few people outside of the state of Utah would even know who he was actually.

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Posted by tkf:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by bobs3304:

Posted by TrueBlue:



He and Noah are going to be a lethal combination. It's going to be like having 2 AK47 on the team maybe even better.

Overstatement of the year?

yea, that is way over the top.. LOL.. both guys together don't have the skills AK has. I don't know if people really watch AK, the guy is a superb passer, on and off the ball defender and a better scorer than tyrus and noah may ever be... I mean come on.... LOL..

I didn't say they currently are the equivalent to AK47 I said they have the makings of becoming him. They have the ability to rebound, block shots, pass, finish on lead and finish a break, score inn traffic strong, play great post and help defense. Tyrus has a 12ft jumper now but they both need to improve their perimeter shooting.

you just described quite a few players in this league... A lot of players have "the makings". The problem I have with both tyrus and noah is their skill level. Neither I think will ever become good enough scorers to take them to that next level, meaning AK-47 type all around player. Did you see noah shoot FT's ? worst form known to mankind.. tyrus relies on athleticism, but the guy doesn't seem to think much when he is on the court, stupid mistakes, he is just to hyper, sort of like Dan gadzurich in that way. guys like that are good off the bench, give them enough minutes to come in and energize a team, but not too many minutes to do stupid shyt like touching your teamates jumpers before they go in the rim....



[Edited by - tkf on 09-11-2007 02:38 AM]

There aren't a lot of young players in ths league that can do all of those things. There may be a handful of young players who even have a hint of becoming AK47. Tyrus is definitely one of those few. It's not like AK47 is tearing up the league in scoring/shooting right now himself. AK47 is mainly known for filling up the stat sheet with his 5,5,5,5,5,(5pts,5ast,5reb,5stls,5blks). And of course in your argument you'd focus on the player that's only played 5gms in his NBA career while ignoring the emerging star in Thomas.

So far on the season

AK47 34min 10.2pts, 5reb, 5ast, 2.5blks, .6stl 46%fg
TT 30min 10.4pts, 8reb, 2ast, 2blks, 1.5stls 47%fg


I think I made a very good comparison. Matter of fact put TT another yr from now in Sloan's sytem and I'd wager any amount he'd duplicate what AK47 gives.

hey, that is cool, 4 games into the season to make that comparison to a guy who has been doing it for over 5 years, but hey, I will go along with you as long as you will admit that jamals numbers at this point puts him in the class with the best guards in the league and that it is fair to compare him to those players. hey, I am willing to play this game... I remember a similar thread about Aldridge when he had that one good game.. Next game was a big thud and I never heard his name again on this forum... typical...

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Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by bobs3304:

Posted by TrueBlue:



He and Noah are going to be a lethal combination. It's going to be like having 2 AK47 on the team maybe even better.

Overstatement of the year?

yea, that is way over the top.. LOL.. both guys together don't have the skills AK has. I don't know if people really watch AK, the guy is a superb passer, on and off the ball defender and a better scorer than tyrus and noah may ever be... I mean come on.... LOL..

I didn't say they currently are the equivalent to AK47 I said they have the makings of becoming him. They have the ability to rebound, block shots, pass, finish on lead and finish a break, score inn traffic strong, play great post and help defense. Tyrus has a 12ft jumper now but they both need to improve their perimeter shooting.

you just described quite a few players in this league... A lot of players have "the makings". The problem I have with both tyrus and noah is their skill level. Neither I think will ever become good enough scorers to take them to that next level, meaning AK-47 type all around player. Did you see noah shoot FT's ? worst form known to mankind.. tyrus relies on athleticism, but the guy doesn't seem to think much when he is on the court, stupid mistakes, he is just to hyper, sort of like Dan gadzurich in that way. guys like that are good off the bench, give them enough minutes to come in and energize a team, but not too many minutes to do stupid shyt like touching your teamates jumpers before they go in the rim....



[Edited by - tkf on 09-11-2007 02:38 AM]

There aren't a lot of young players in ths league that can do all of those things. There may be a handful of young players who even have a hint of becoming AK47. Tyrus is definitely one of those few. It's not like AK47 is tearing up the league in scoring/shooting right now himself. AK47 is mainly known for filling up the stat sheet with his 5,5,5,5,5,(5pts,5ast,5reb,5stls,5blks). And of course in your argument you'd focus on the player that's only played 5gms in his NBA career while ignoring the emerging star in Thomas.

So far on the season

AK47 34min 10.2pts, 5reb, 5ast, 2.5blks, .6stl 46%fg
TT 30min 10.4pts, 8reb, 2ast, 2blks, 1.5stls 47%fg


I think I made a very good comparison. Matter of fact put TT another yr from now in Sloan's sytem and I'd wager any amount he'd duplicate what AK47 gives.

hey, that is cool, 4 games into the season to make that comparison to a guy who has been doing it for over 5 years, but hey, I will go along with you as long as you will admit that jamals numbers at this point puts him in the class with the best guards in the league and that it is fair to compare him to those players. hey, I am willing to play this game... I remember a similar thread about Aldridge when he had that one good game.. Next game was a big thud and I never heard his name again on this forum... typical...

TKF you're arguing this from the standpoint that I actually said TT=AK47 when I didn't. I said TT & Noah have the makings to become AK47 and considering this is TT's 2nd yr he's showing a lot right now. Now as far as Jamal he's had stretches before like this in his career but has never amounted to a consistent dominant 2 guard. Is he playing well right now you better believe it but 7yrs into the league I'm not going to give him the same courtesy as a 2nd yr player showing his upside.

Posted by MS:

If we are just looking at Jamal's number and discounting the talent we passed up for eddy last year

Brandon Roy
17.5pts 5.3ass 3.3rbs 48%

Rudy Gay
18pts 5.3rbs 1.0blks 47%

LaMarcus Aldridge
16.8pts 7.0rbs 1.0blks 1.75tos

Eddy Curry
18.7pts 7.3rbs 0.7blks 2.33tos

It's not a good trade plain and simple for the long term, Eddy will score but his heart will always been in question