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BigC
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11/7/2007  6:29 PM
Posted by kam77:

Craw/Lee as the basis for a Kobe package doesn't sound so far fetched anymore.

In order to get Kobe the Knicks would have to trade Jamal, Lee, and Curry. Isiah is not going to trade Curry together with Jamal for anything. To be honest I think Jamal and Curry are his favorite players. So don't expect them to go anywhere soon.



[Edited by - BigC on 11-07-2007 6:37 PM]
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11/7/2007  6:32 PM
after 3 games, you can see crawford is a different player this year than he was over the past few years.

there was a play down low, crawford had the ball on the baseline with melo guarding him. the made a power dribble, bodied up on melo and tried to go up strong. he missed the layup but he looked like a big man on that move. prior seasons, he would've tried to just jump up and try some fancy reverse or a little touch shot/floater.

his career path, so far, is something like a chauncy billups.
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11/7/2007  6:44 PM
I would put crawford in a deal for Kobe in a heart beat.

Jamal if he would have stayed in college another yr, who knows what he would have learned about the game. Now he's still learning shot selection and when to how to.

But Curry is the one who would have really benefitted froma few yrs of college ball.
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11/7/2007  6:48 PM
Posted by playa2:

I would put crawford in a deal for Kobe in a heart beat.

Jamal if he would have stayed in college another yr, who knows what he would have learned about the game. Now he's still learning shot selection and when to how to.

But Curry is the one who would have really benefitted froma few yrs of college ball.

You can't always say that college ball helps. Look at Frye spending 4 years in college.............
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11/7/2007  7:01 PM
Posted by BigC:
Posted by playa2:

I would put crawford in a deal for Kobe in a heart beat.

Jamal if he would have stayed in college another yr, who knows what he would have learned about the game. Now he's still learning shot selection and when to how to.

But Curry is the one who would have really benefitted froma few yrs of college ball.

You can't always say that college ball helps. Look at Frye spending 4 years in college.............

BigC is right... u should have said "college & a pair of testicles" instead.
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11/7/2007  8:43 PM
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

He's not an emerging star, he's been in the league for 8 years now.

So guys can't emerge into stardom after 7 years?

where are the rules on that one..
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11/7/2007  8:50 PM
Crawford is a top flight sg right now. If he plays like this for the year the knicks are going to be in very good shape. What is Jamal averaging over the three games 24.7 and 7 assists thats puts him right up there with some of the top sgs in the league.
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11/7/2007  9:14 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

He's not an emerging star, he's been in the league for 8 years now.

So guys can't emerge into stardom after 7 years?

where are the rules on that one..
They can; it's just extremely uncommon.
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11/7/2007  9:22 PM
Bonn - that's why you play the games

Crawford's assists are essential to the Knicks frontcourt and his good karma with Eddy Curry is still evolving

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[Edited by - misterearl on 11-07-2007 9:24 PM]
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11/7/2007  9:29 PM
Posted by BigC:
Posted by playa2:

I would put crawford in a deal for Kobe in a heart beat.

Jamal if he would have stayed in college another yr, who knows what he would have learned about the game. Now he's still learning shot selection and when to how to.

But Curry is the one who would have really benefitted froma few yrs of college ball.

You can't always say that college ball helps. Look at Frye spending 4 years in college.............

Frye was soft in college and pro , bad example

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11/7/2007  9:58 PM
We are running a lot of plays for him and its working. I always wondered why we never ran plays for him in the past, at least not often. He has got the skills on offense to dominate. He just has to put it together and have the coach use him right. So far so good this season.
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11/7/2007  10:45 PM
Posted by playa2:
Posted by BigC:
Posted by playa2:

I would put crawford in a deal for Kobe in a heart beat.

Jamal if he would have stayed in college another yr, who knows what he would have learned about the game. Now he's still learning shot selection and when to how to.

But Curry is the one who would have really benefitted froma few yrs of college ball.

You can't always say that college ball helps. Look at Frye spending 4 years in college.............

Frye was soft in college and pro , bad example
Not really. If Frye was soft in college then the example is college did not make him tough. Your assuming that one more year in college would have made him better and that is not the case. We have 5 players that are top 10 in the league right now that did not go to college. College does not always help players that are not in a winning program. However teams that are in losing programs it man not help them if they stayed 10 years in college. Some players need the NBA action right away. Jamal's problem is that he went to the Bulls his first years in the league. Where they were switching coaches left and right. Put Jamal with a coach like Phil Jackson or Pop and his learning process would have been better. The Bulls do not develop players.

Look at Kobe, Tmac, Lebron, Kg, J Oneal= no college. However, they learned in the NBA with playing time and good systems. Look at Felipe López, he is an example of a player that college slowed him down.



[Edited by - BigC on 11-07-2007 10:47 PM]
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11/9/2007  5:05 AM
"The good teams do that, they don't allow themselves to have letdowns," Jamal Crawford said after practice yesterday. "Isiah talked about it, reminding us it's not just a one-game thing. We've got to continue to bring that intensity and the same passion. It's like when the Nets see us. They have that fire in their eyes."
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11/9/2007  8:02 AM
this is a guy who's scored 50 points. Under LB he had a few games where he grabbed 10 boards. Like a lot of guys in the league his talent cant be questioned. What makes guys stars or just decent players is their drive and heart. Jamal has had great stretches many times. Lets see him have a great YEAR. Great players fight through the lulls in the game and in the season. Jamal has never been able to sustain his play when he has gotten to a high level.
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11/9/2007  8:13 AM
fishmike - instead of throwing down the expected gauntlet, I think killa4 is hoping to invite discussion, on whether there is any unique evidence from Jamal's early season that can be used to build a case for him actually TAKING the next step.

Not his past.

I would submit that this unique mix of Knicks, unlike any roster to date in terms of development and personnel, is not a stable substance

but a dynamic chemical compound subject to change

[Edited by - misterearl on 11-09-2007 08:32 AM]
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11/9/2007  8:16 AM
Jamal Crawford, meet Zach Randolph

“The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances; if there is any reaction, both are transformed.”

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11/9/2007  8:21 AM
One thing about Jamal - I don't think he's ever started a season this well. He usually plays like this in March and April, but starting a season with his head on right is new. I think he'll be able to sustain a much higher level of play this year. But I don't think he'll keep shooting 47%. But if he can keep attacking the basket and playing smart, he'll be very good.

He's the leader of this squad, we need him to keep this up.
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11/9/2007  8:36 AM
"He's the leader of this squad, ..."

crzymdups - people drop the concept of team chemistry all the time, but how many really understand how it develops, works, or EVOLVES, in the context of team sports?

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11/9/2007  9:15 AM
This was after the first game vs Minny...

Isiah Thomas on Jamal Crawford:

“He has definitely put a lot into understanding the game and the nuances of the game. He has always had great talent. He understands now how to get others involved, timing, rhythm and flow of the game and when to assert himself. He now understands team temperament. In order to be a great guard in this league you need to be able to emotionally connect with your teammates. He has been doing that for us.”

David Lee on Crawford:

On Jamal Crawford: “He is one of those guys you always look to in the fourth quarter. He played well tonight but even when he is not having one of his best games, he is one of those guys you look to in the fourth quarter. There are very few guys who can do what he does in the fourth quarter and finish out games. We have faith in him and he has faith in himself in those situations and he did it once again tonight.”

Eddy Curry on Crawford:

On Jamal Crawford’s play in the fourth quarter: “That is what he does. After playing with him for so long you kind of expect that. He is a great player. On any given night he can have something special happen. That is why we love him so much.”

ZBO on Crawford:

On Jamal Crawford: “Jamal is a great player. It is my first time playing with him. He has so many skills. He is unbelievable.”
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11/9/2007  9:33 AM
That's like getting quotes from your dad and brother, i want a consistent month and then we can talk about him emerging
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