Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by Panos:

Can we PLEASE stop saying that "Dolan didn't want a rebuild" without a shred of evidence to support it! Seriously, just make anything up, and just cuz you repeat it enough times it becomes the truth?!

The man came out and said it on more than one occasion. Besides his very public stance, you need but only look at what we had in H2O and KT and you can imagine that he likely felt we could add a player or 2 and make another playoff run. Why would he not want to give it a serious try when he knew that he had big money on the table left for H2O. He didn't know that his legs weren't going to heal. He had just come off some really big years. There's just no way that anyone can look at the way MSG had done things up to that point and not realize that Dolan would want to continue to look to revamp and make a go with the vets. We never really did anything with the draft and our modus operandi was to get vets and try to keep the team in playoff contention. Keep the fans coming and the high ticket prices rolling.

Because part of a GM's job is assessing the current team's peak. That's why Danny busted up the Celtic duo of Pierce and Walker he saw the team peaked and wasn't going to make any big splashed in the playoffs. That's why Colangelo busted up the Suns. That's why Paxson busted up the Bulls. Seriously how good was the Knicks team going to be with Kurt and H20 as the centerpieces? Yes they were good players but ones who were on the downside. We also F'N backed into the playoffs that season only for it to show with an embarrassing sweep by the Nets. And if the plan was to make the playoffs he despicably failed at this because we haven't done so with exception to the half season as GM. Now the same fans want to give him credit for amassing talent when he could of amassed better talent had he gone the other route while trimming the payroll drastically.

Posted by MS:

Isiah knows a lot more about rebuilding than you think. Just ask the Suns, Bulls, Magic, Raptors, and Blazers.

Isiah has helped everyone of the teams get where they are today, especially the Bulls by taking two guys that don't like team basketball always want to get theirs and don't play defense. As long as your not taking on me first players and making long term signings rebuilding isn't as hard as advertised.

Posted by JohnWallace44:

Posted by MS:

That's fine the first year he moved for Marbury, Josh Smith was on the board better than Steph and someone isiah would have likely taken. But the draft picks i mentioned were not hard picks to make lee was a great selection of course, but the others were there and logical.

He just drafts without thinking, what's best and he trades the same way. Let me get the most athletic person or the more talented guy,etc

Dude, Isiah is on his last legs here, but you can't say his drafts were simply "logical". He has kicked serious butt in the drafts.

His signings have been other worldly bad, and his trades have been somewhere in the middle.

I wouldn't say that he kicked butt, because of the way he's botched deals by giving away two drafts in a row for a very questionable Eddie. He could have taken Bynum over Frye, but took Frye anyway and then ended up trading the mentle block to the Blazers for a convicted criminal. And then on top of that, he should be giving three of his picks big minutes, Lee, Balkman & Collins, because he has to give it to the overpaid, non-proven big men. I mean suckbury for one is worth every cent and cheesburger JJ1 was an excellent buy also. Look at JJ2, with that unstopable defense we all heard about. If you ask me' I'd say he's under paid. Remember, Isiah said he knew this guy and knew he would be an addition to the D, but we haven't seen a lick of D since he's gotten here. Besides, the draft picks he's gotten for us, they haven't become anything like what he found in other players, for other teams. I just don't see any kick butt anywhere here.

[Edited by - 4949 on 11-05-2007 9:09 PM]

Posted by misterearl:

hold up

If the Bulls continue on their 0-3 slide will they need to rebuild the rebuild?

Posted by misterearl:

hold up

If the Bulls continue on their 0-3 slide will they need to rebuild the rebuild?