Posted by misterearl:

Marv - exactly.

Be realistic.

But why must Nate be a little ****?

Posted by Marv:

Posted by misterearl:

Marv - exactly.

Be realistic.

But why must Nate be a little ****?

i say it with love in my heart.

Posted by misterearl:

Posted by Marv:

Posted by misterearl:

Marv - if you look at the regular season games after the Denver scuffle, I don't remember many instances where the team mailed it in. Sometimes, it still just comes back to available talent. There were some important Knicks players missing in March.

I have a revolutionary idea. Let's cheer Nate's development.

earl, i'll cheer nate's game last night. i'll hardly cheer his "development."

against philly: 1-8 fg. 0-3 3's. 1 assist. 3 TO's

against boston: 0-4 fg. 0-3 3's. 0 assists. 1 TO.

against nj: 0-8 fg. 0-3 3's. 1 assist. 1 TO.

Here's the choice: You can either decide to be supportive of a young Knicks player, no matter how problemmatic he has been in the past. Or you can continue the convenient route of celebrating each and every flaw with the patented, "I told you he was crap" routine.

Posted by misterearl:

Posted by Marv:

Posted by misterearl:

I'm just tired of playing this sseason's games with a defeatist mindset, in October no less.

Of course, no one knows which way the wind will blow with Nate. Like Herm said, "That's why you play the game". Nate could become an answer to a trivia question or the second coming of Tiny Archibald. Personally, I consider any demeaning or insulting name placed on any member of my favorite team as an act of treason.

but that's just me

oh man.

you and your friends don't greet one another with some choice epithets said with affection and in the age-old practice of busting one another's balls? that's all i was doing with the little . . . . with nate.

Actually, i generally greet my friends with a firm handshake and a pleasant,

"good morning Mortimer, nice weather we're having how are Buffy and the twins?"

HA!

Posted by BasketballJones:

Earl asked:

Is an edgy Knicks team identity in the works or was it all just an act for Dolan?

Only time will tell.

Posted by misterearl:

eVil - There have been many comments that have mentioned, or questioned, the Knicks team identity.

I initiated a thread with that theme in mind, searching for recent clues to that end. I used the Denver scuffle as a starting point because after the Nuggets game last season. Most thought the team was ready to implode. What happened?

The Knicks went on a a defiant run of better basketball and started to win.

The Boston 40 point loss was another opportunity for gnashing of teeth. The Knicks respond by playing more like the 1994 Knicks. I never said they WERE the 1994 Knicks.

Can you tell me where the problem in comprehension lies?

Posted by eViL:

Posted by misterearl:

eVil - There have been many comments that have mentioned, or questioned, the Knicks team identity.

I initiated a thread with that theme in mind, searching for recent clues to that end. I used the Denver scuffle as a starting point because after the Nuggets game last season. Most thought the team was ready to implode. What happened?

The Knicks went on a a defiant run of better basketball and started to win.

The Boston 40 point loss was another opportunity for gnashing of teeth. The Knicks respond by playing more like the 1994 Knicks. I never said they WERE the 1994 Knicks.

Can you tell me where the problem in comprehension lies?

Of course you never said they were the '94 Knicks because as a Knicks fan you know that the '94 Knicks did not have to get kicked in the teeth before they started to care. In fact, they were the dudes doing the teeth kicking most of the season.

I'm glad our boys fought hard last night. I appreciate the effort. But really, I want to see the effort come from within. I want to see these guys play their asses off because they feel in their hearts that as professional athletes they should always give their all. If this team always needs to get kicked around before they wake up, we're going to have the same inconsistent team we had last year.

WHY CAN'T THEY PLAY HARD WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE THEIR BACKS UP AGAINST THE WALL?

So you see, I'm not eager to congratulate them because first -- I think playing hard is what they are supposed to do, second -- I'm not convinced that they will always play hard. If you knew me, you'd know that there's no one who would be happier to be wrong about this. So please, New York Knickerbockers -- PROVE ME WRONG. Play hard all year long no matter what the circumstances.